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I rarely mock an individual unless he/she gets insulting with me first. As far as groups or organizations go like Tea Baggers, (wich is what they did in fact call themselves origionally until they realized what it meant lol!) I really don't like lobbyists or special interest groups, or any organization of people period. Just groups of people usually almost always lowers the value of the movement. A person by him/her self can be a smart rationally thinking person by default nature.. yet somehow when they group together, those qualities are lost entirely. For example, I support the right to bear arms, I love my guns. I respect the NRA's efforts to keep that in effect, however I find it hard to respect most else of what the NRA's agenda is. I avoid almost any and every form of organizations from politics to religion. I do have my set beliefs and Ideas, some are liberal, some are conservative. Will I listen to a conflicting belief? I'd be more than happy to as long as there's an actual respectful explaining why they feel that way. But if they have this snotty attitude about it, I loose all respect for that person or anything they have to say as I get the gist they aren't really trying to "correct" me out of the pure consideration that i'm misguided, rather they are simply stroking their ego to gain the satisfaction that they are somehow superior. And if it's based on that principal, it doesn't really matter if it is a right or wrong situation, or simply a matter of opinion, all that matters is their superiority. So they could just as easily have the misguided view and mine isn't, but all that isn't gonna matter due to them needing to stroke their own ego. So with people like that, it's really irrelevant to even listen to what they say, they have no credibility based on the principal of wich they "debate" their views.

[ not like anyone actually responds to my posts anymore butttt here it goes ] First, the place believe it or not, IS CLEAN. [ wasn't there already a thread about that???? ]Its the drunks that destroy the place by the end of the night [ and actually, it has been decent in the last couple months ] With the bathrooms, well... Stop destroying them and they wont look like shit. And they also have someone that picks up all the trash and stuff too as the night goes on in the club. Secondly, they have to charge people a dollar because remember, before, if you go out, youd have to pay 4 dollars. But thats up for change too. The alcohol sales are going down the drain there because people like to drink out in the parking lot. And they ARE NOT letting people back in if you are caught drinking in the parking lot [ thats what happened saturday ] which is FAIR since it is a bar, they do need to make some type of sales. EVERY BAR IS DEALING WITH THIS PEOPLE. They can't make a patio or anything because uh, well. theres just parking lot. Would you rather park on the streets, or in there? The security does a pretty good job (now) with making sure your cars don't get stolen, it HAS improved a lot. And from my understanding there IS cameras all over the place. Third, the lighting sucks, but thats what makes it cityclub. As for the whole music thing, i'm pretty sure they fixed the sound system a couple weeks ago. The music HAS been decent lately. The drama, well. Don't listen to it, and you don't have to be in it? Its really as simple as that. EVERYONE has theyre own opinions and instead of BASHING about how much you people hate city or wish it would change just to fit you, why don't you guys think of theme nights or something that would actually be realistic? Regardless if you guys all boycott city or not, its still going to be open, and its still going to go on for a very very long time. I like city club just fine. The only thing I would like to change is the smoking ban thats effecting the whole state. Do you guys actually think that the people that work there aren't just as pissed off about it? What I would like to change is people to stop whining and crying about how city needs to change. Its not the 80's or 90's anymore. This decade for the most part blows. Sorry, but its true. Edit; Sorry if I offend anyone, i'm not trying to.