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Testing now that I've uploaded to the site. Those are my two boys; Cas top of the photo, Gabe on the bottom. And Azzi, my girl.

Greetings all, we have a new DGN Member Map courtesy of @Marblez Please check it out and add yourself here: Our Gothic Friends Map If you have questions/comments please post them in this topic (or PM a moderator).

If you get a chance to get diagnosed professionally, please do. Finding out I am Autistic... I feel like being given autism was my super power. And bipolar makes one hell of a flare for it. And now that they are under control, I walk every day for over 30 minutes, changed my diet, changed my outlooks, but kept my passions the same. Also, sometimes having a little something "bad" for you, is healthier than not laughing and enjoying yourself. Therapist and psychiatrist are people. And depending on the management, you could have a group of good or bad doctor's. It Takes a lot time to figure yourself and your struggles out. But I promise, with a balance of both professional and natural help, if you can. Some things happen depending on the person's health or situation. But, don't give up. Life is a constant battle. But, you cannot level up without fighting the big bosses. I believe in you. I know, it sounds corny what I'm saying. But, literally. You can still listen to evil dark stuff, and be happy. Just be you, fight for the best for YOU. And credit YOU for getting you places through your life. Shit happened? Congrats!! You leveled through it, so, change that mindset to fit - your personality- in a healthy way. Avoid cookie cutter doctor's. Find the kind that learn from experiences. Every place is different. Every doctor is human and different. I took what ran me into the ground and rode it back up into the sky. Go get yourself back. You can find you. You exist. Trust me. Even if you have to do it alone, it's worth it. Once you do, do it. You'll feel different about being alone if you're that kind of person. Don't let anyone fit you into a box. If your soul and heart screams it. Follow It.

So, amongst my journies, I learned this fox can shriek and growl. And a local studio at the time wanted a female singer to do death growls and screams for covers, his version of Leap Frog Studios? I think I said that right. Anyways, I took two of my favorite songs, and made them Death Metal. Maybe I "Ruined" it for some, but, don't listen to it if you aren't a fan to begin with, please? I know, it's a goth forum, but, I am also a vocalist and as an artist, I just exist to create what my soul and heart feels. Sweet Dreams - Pet Sematary - It was fun, but, my adventures are over in the entertainment world. I've been wanting to get out of it for a few years, so it feels good to finally be free and live a normal life, just simply as me. I also just wanted to contribute to this website a bit to help breath life back into it. Glad to be back. Enjoy 🖤🖤

Wow. My mom's sister's ex husband's brother is an asshole

If it's true, they paid off a lot of paparazzi who took photos of her taking her final breath. They filmed the accident live and there were so many paparazzi that emergency crews couldn't even get through. She was still alive as they were taking her picture as she slowly lost consciousness. This is cruel, but if it is true, then her sons were put through hell for no reason unless they were told to be at odds with each other in the public eye to make her death appear true. Princess Diana and Queen Elizabeth II were the only royals whose lives I watched. With as much of an activist Lady Di was, I find it a hard pill to swallow that she let everything fall to go into hiding unless she assumed another identity and left the country. The entire thing can be solved with a simple DNA test even if she had a twin sister. Something just doesn't jive right with this. But at least they waited until Queen Elizabeth passed.

The way that Cas is holding Gabe with his little paw 😭 its so cute!!!

*Big hugs* All I can really do now is hope that it's all approved. With all totaled, just over 120 for health insurance. Which really isn't too bad. And I won't turn down a hug. Usually.

Work got some interesting stuff. Expired (cap bulging) 7 up from China. Yeah I'm drinking it. Tastes weird.

I can't just raid your fridge when I'm thirsty!! Also that Gatorade has a specific purpose, silly.

New shirt. It couldn't have been more perfect.

Honestly, it has gotten to the point to where if you don't say it, it's more uncomfortable.

Primary docs typically aren't trained on psych meds. Sometimes you'll find one that is. That being said, a psychiatrist would do the same thing as a regular doctor: prescribe meds, see how it works, change it if it doesn't. It's just that psychiatrists know what to ask and know symptomatology better. I don't know if you'd qualify for Medicaid...that's a whole process, but if you go through the CMH in the county you live in they can help with that. There are better ADD meds than Adderall: Concerta, Vyvanse...others I'm blanking on right now. Yes, there is potential for addiction, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'll become addicted. My personal experience with meds: I was on Wellbutrin. It made my migraines worse and I felt numb emotionally, so I stopped taking it. When I was in the hospital for attempting suicide in 2015, I was put on Effexor. I still take it. It has been a literal life saver. I know I wouldn't be here today if I wasn't still taking it. Do I still have days when I feel sad? Absolutely. That's life, and I work through it. It's not the crippling depression I had before. Taking psych meds does not make you weak. It takes a lot of strength to say " I need help," and take the steps to get help. Going off meds is a process of titrating down until you're off of them.

DGN Mission Statement, FAQ and Rules 3.1 The DGN Code Of Conduct (Corporate Summary: Be Nice or Begone.) Rule No. 1. Play Nice. Unlike a lot of boards, we like to try and keep ours jerk-free. You should feel comfortable expressing opinions, even unpopular ones. We're not going for a homogenized, dull community here. However, when voicing an opinion, always do so as tactfully as possible to avoid provoking others. Examples of what we don't want to see: A. Blatant Personal Attacks No name-calling, threats, or other attacks aimed directly toward another poster or non-poster. No direct insults. For example: if a poster calls another poster an "asshole" (or some such) and its not obvious that they were teasing or joking, that's a fairly clear infraction of the DGN rules. Posters guilty of this will be spoken to and dealt with in one way or another. B. Inciting Anger or Drama. It's fine to discuss things openly and frankly. 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Now if they create Decaf coffee for us anxiety sensitive folk 😂

I have to a few times since my move up here. Roger has been there. He's even played there.

Also, check out the Water company Liquid Death. We are huge supporters of this company.

Yeah and we're doing a pretty good job of clarifying in here. QoF's use if it, I interpreted as a survival mindframe from trauma. You don't feel human, but more robotic or lizard-like in survival mode, void of emotions. Slavic may have genuinely not have known, which hey no harm no fowl, it opened up an opportunity to share some info. But I agree, a little bit of tolerance and/or ignorance to their dog whistles is a weak spot that lets them slime their way in, and before you know it, your group is suddenly a hate group. Like a virus that needs to quietly incubate before wreaking havoc on your body. And their whole, "so much for the 'tolerant' left!" Is just gas lighting. Tolerance is a social contract. You tolerate those with tolerance. Those without tolerance aren't part of the social contract and hate to say it, but it's best to snip them out of the social acceptance preemptively. It's ironically hypocritical that they expect tolerance for their intolerance. Moving forward though, it's important to see the context around certain red flag phrases such as "lizard people". That can usually help determine whether it's innocent or not.

I moderate the comment section for one of my friends who happens to be Jewish. Is it horrifying how quickly things will Spiral from an out of context blind, or slightly off color joke to like 30 some random people describing in visceral detail how and why they would rape and kill my friend. I don't tolerate people who play dumb to shit like this. All most people with disturbing views like this want is a little bit of tolerance. And if you don't give it to them you're an asshole for not platforming their free speech 😞 (idk when or how free speech came to mean freedom from all consequences and free acess to any platform you have your heart set on) That said, "lizard people" has taken on a life outside of anti semetisim and it isn't ALWAYS a dogwhistle. But it for sure should be a red flag And is not something you want to say in general company if you dont want to cause some discomfort. I'm glad to see that someone other than me brought this up tbh XD

i mooned it. wut. the super blue moon i mean i have something laid out in the moonlight fir a charge but ya i just felt more like mooning. super blue moon on my ol wht lady azz!

~~~~~ Actually, if you are dehydrated, you need fluids that have electrolytes in it like Pedialyte or an equivalent. You need to replenish your body's sugar and salt. Fruit juice with a salty snack will also help. You can also mix sugar and salt in water to help start the replenishing process. Water is mainly a delivery fluid that helps move things through your system, but it does not replenish body essentials.

I just came here to say the same news. I've been following Smith since he signed in board. This is the bomb drop I've been waiting on. This is the one I feel is gonna actually take his ass down and 90% of his politician followers. This is gonna go slow but I think it'll really start to kick off in 2024. Buckle up, y'all. FYI, I make really good popcorn.

Feeling pretty relaxed. Nothing came from my potato moment at work on Friday. The write up never even happened. My potato moments are growing farther and fewer in-between. It's also comforting to know they know they can't find anyone to do my job, at least not nearly as good as I can. Things are back to a solid routine again and I can finally relax.

The problem is the more trouble he gets in the more his numbers go up. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. My god I wish he would go away.

I came back here after I heard about Troy. I wanted to check the place out again. I saw some familiar names, couldn't remember my login, so I started a new account. Out with the old, in with the new.

~~~~~ The way it is seen is there is potential danger, but you have a shield of protection. Spiders are seen as a good thing. It's just that people's fears of insects have given spiders the reputation of something bad or ominous. Coming out of the realm of superstition, the only spiders you need to be weary of are venomous ones. If the spider is going about its daily routine of catching food to survive, no worries, you're not on the menu.

Clearly not.

I figured out what the issue was. Here is my Alice costume. Which was my first sewing project.