Troy Spiral

Ok that it is awesome. Don't make me ninja edit your profile with a real picture. heh.

Welcome! Hope we hear from you!

I really apreciate people actually asking for a card. Its a bit of a pain in the ass to make them. But, if people actually want them (the way id know that is taking the 90 seconds to ask here) Im happy to do it. Unfortunately most people that read this already understand that. Preaching to the choir. Hah.

Tron is now a moderator on the way to becoming an evil overlord (Admin). In case you don't know what she looks like here her portrait. (it's not easy finding victorian esque dressed black women (with hats) I searched for like 20 minutes.

Seriously not a single reply? Lol *back to working my ass off and trying to stay positive*

100% HouseSpiral.com random things on a haggard guy that looks 10 years older than he is hah. *tries to stay positive*

Worst day since I was in the hospital last. I've had a lot of hope due to the e-commerce thing I figured out I could do without the PTSD kicking my ass. The e-commerce business I've been working on literally somewhere between 4 and 14 (no shit) hours a day EVERY damn day for 2+ months (even worked on it today for like 7, although it was really bummed out and not very productive) is probably fucked. The whole idea, due to guessing what, big shock... money. I signed up for this e-commerce training seminar many months ago, after agonizing over it for days and days with credit. (Bad I know) but it really seemed worth it. It turned out, I wouldn't use the word scam, but really not what was promised. It was billed almost like an associates degree style level of education along with "step by step assistance" and the big promise was if you bust your ass you'll make the $366 back before even the end of your second week in. Well, that's not true, at least no for me. I've not made a dime yet. Even though I know the overall concept is sound, I just haven't gotten lucky / have things polished enough yet (its really a hell of a lot more complicated than it might seem, you basically have to become a psychologist, a web expert and a marketing expert all at once, and learn the technical aspects of a billion different "funnels" and how to set it all up and then market it. My whole sort of "hope for the future" is wrapped up in this, but things are so tight that I have my finances figured out down to about $20 accuracy. I got a refund from that shitty course months ago, which just now the credit card company re-billed me and it caused a cascade all the way through a bunch of boring details to wipe out my bank account (to literally zero dollars, like... no shit ZERO dollars. I can run everything on a shoestring budget but not on zero. (plus there are two more payments of 366 coming if I cant "win" the dispute, which talking to the capital one it sounds like I'm fucked as they have a mountain of BS about their refund policies and such that they sent in to get the charge re-sent. Been as low as I've been in a long time. Almost thinking about going to the hospital. But that won't work because then I'll come home to an angry mother, who needs all this slave labor done (she doesn't believe mental issues are all that real) and that will just put me over the edge again. (and mom is no help with money, she basically is taking it to the grave with her if I outlive her I'll get it then) To top that off as predicted, The Gathering is going to shit apparently. Christ, I wish I was still working, I've never stressed out about mone perpetually in my life. I always lived below my means and always worked my ass off and that just made the financial side of life almost a non-issue. All the people I helped money-wise have all disappeared from that time period (not that I was expecting anything but, really I had all these "business friends" that seemed like close friends, they are all gone every last one) This almost suicidal thinking based on money just screams LOSER. GET A JOB. Well, I've tried 7 times. GRRRR screw it all.

Now that there is a quality post. Yes, I did read all that heh. What a bunch of pains in the asses all added together.

They sacked Rome and then went to live under the sea.

I would never take something like this seriously its just for fun. Honestly I never really even looked at it. Apparently, the Leaderboard is based on how much your posts are liked or upvoted per-day. Interesting concept (but flawed) the same way that raw post count is interesting but also flawed. Still, a random interesting thing to look at. The link at the top of the board almost in the middle at least on PC. The Leaderboard.

Mom declared no more pets. I've brought it up a few times, same answer. :(

Moe is home now. I don't know all the details (and wouldn't feel right about posting them here anyway) but she isn't in any immediate danger as far as I know. Not to say I'm going to stop worrying.

I haven't heard anything but I'm the last one in the loop the last month or two. For various reasons. I don't have any contact info for stu If she's in the situation it sounds like she's in, if they send her to a different place, she'll be there from anywhere from a few days to a month depending on how she does. I know at least two people above that know what I mean but I don't want to say anything that might be misunderstood.

*hugs* How do I contact you? Will you have a phone? Way to get to the internet or a phone that you have control over? I live with my mom and she's insane 1950s mentality I can't bring you here. I'm totally broke and when I say totally broke my bank statement just now, literally just now, is >zero< (have to dispute one big charge which I won't win). I'm trying to think of something to do.

Omg. Thank you for posting this! I cant know what she's going through, but I do know about the emotional issues and them "deciding were to send you" (and what that means) been THERE 5 times. It's a precarious, frustrating and depressing situation. After I get done posting this I'm going to try and message her I'm guessing she probably either won't have her phone with her or might be in a situation where she just can't use it. If you have other contact info for her PM me with it, please. Not that its a big deal but I'll save her card for her. @TronRP Don't think that way. She was telling me how grateful she was for the help. I was grateful you were around too. (for her and in general) @Stu I know we need to worry about moe but also the people looking out for our loved ones to get neglected. I know its hard for you too. Hang in there, brother.

Yes there are Christian goths.

Working on stuff and trying to stay positive and awake.

Thinking they finally got the embroidery right.

These took foooorrrever, they look better in real life than they do here,just to beat to keep messing around with web / graphics stuff. Yes that is a cat on the witches broomstick, and yes it is 1817. Also in the bottom right is the 'hs collector number/ total number' was going to add that since day 1 but kept putting it off. That total includes all the gathering cards, patron pards (of which the first one wont be released around the first week of january, laminated double-thick and have some unique feature like (foil accents or glitter, debossed metallic by hand collector number, so no 2 will be exactly alike) and the 1 'big card' (so far, plan on more) as it was also a gatering card. It doesnt include real-life special event cards. I'll make checklists for both when I can. Also wont include the Nov 24th Black Fiday/Cyber Monday card.

I wish had more energy. I don't mean right this second, I just mean in general. If I'm not straight up sick, I'm still zombie tired. Right now typing this I'm dead tired and I slept theoretically decent last night. Really sucks when you are trying to get anything done. It also makes my "just suck it up" system for dealing with feeling sick hard as hell, because when you are tired, the mental focus is for crap, and every problem seems magnified. I should have the energy to fix DGN and to put in at least 8 hours on HouseSpiral.com , which if I'm lucky I squeeze out 4 before I'm too out of it to focus. I "feel" like I'm busting my ass, but the actual output is mediocre in terms of volume. Really worried if any of this healthcare cuts bullshit goes through I'm going to be in bad trouble. I need to have a legit income to pay for the expensive ass hell care that I need.

The real question other than just typos and such is like is the 'mission' clear and how it works clear. I'm trying to push the idea of gothy/alternative types helping the world be a better place, and also not to be "ashamed" of being unusual. Sure someone might only dress city-club style like every once in a blue moon but not to be "afraid" of admitting they like the gothy look/sound /whatever. It's so bad these days that like people that are TOTALLY into the "halloween" or horror movies or the "dark look" aka GOTH stuff as a summary. (real Halloween not freaking Disney Princesses... although I do like Disney princesses too lol).

Sure I do, just as long as you keep making my dollars on the streets. =D

There is another one that for a long time the west thought was the oldest in the world (also in Japan) its "only" like 1100 years old. The crazy part is the >continious operation < part.

The white symbols at the bottom right say 'house spiral' (carefully translated as I could.) The triangle is a highly stylized triple spiral (Triskelion) an adopted symbol of house spiral since forever, sometimes associated with the spirit of a wolf pack, our group spirit animal. (This is heavily associated with the Celts, but the spirals original meanings if any, are pre-date history as we know it. Like so they many things. They mean what we choose them to mean. (Could spend a lifetime researching spirals) It also looks like a triple pointed star of the words of House Spiral (another house spiral adopted symbol) I mean the points to stand for starting from the bottom left, Earth (Truth), Water (Kindness), top point - Fire (Courage). All Ideas to live by. Courage being placed slightly above the others but only there honorably if supported by truth and kindness. Not always easy to put into practice. The crossed ceremonial daqtag knives symbolizing both honor and death challenges. (Life is a struggle suck it up.) The tribal house spiral triskelion also just looks cool and reminded me of Klingons. The skull translates as 'To Be or Not to Be' from Hamlet. Google that, it doesn't get much gothy black darker than what he's contemplating in that stanza. Thus the bewildered spiral crazy eyes seemed appropriate. Interestingly the language has no 'to be' so the spirit of the translation is something like Survive or Do not Survive. Hrmm. That's a pretty good covers all the basic overlapping philosophical ideas of what we are trying to do with HouseSpiral.com and Patreon.com/HouseSpiral <-- monthly house spiral cards incoming and membership cards.

Damn, wish u would have posted this earlier not sure if the right people will see it. *fingers crossed*