Gaf The Horse With Tears

I will let you know when it happens. What was the first thing that made you smile today

Geek out and try to hide the fact that female computers geeks are... well... I'd prolly blush alot.

Ok, I think I see where you coming from.. and I think I agree. To an extent. We do have, with our great big brains the tools to choose our own path... but the fear is still there driing those decisions. We just weigh the possible outcomes and choose the path we are willing to deal with.

I think it could be better put as "We are never anymore than what God made us to be. No matter how much high minded thought we put into it." I agree with you on Faith to some extent. Faith is one of the veneers in my opinion. It's a way of dealing with the underling core of what we are. God created us, in my view, to exist in this world. He gave us tools to that end. Fear being chief among them. You can deny that all you like. Denial does not change things. Without fear, on some level or another... we die. Often from doing something stupid, like having Faith that someone else turned that circuit off. Fear makes you double check. And as for your example. You mean... thinking it through... weighing the risks and the possible outcomes? it's not a risk if you dint have anything to loose and if you can loose something.. you will fear that lose becoming a reality. Faith... betting your life that all your critical thinking was right and that your fears will come to nothing. Faith does not get rid of fear... it's a way of controlling it. Another veneer we created to cope with what we are. You are a Christian man who has reade the Bible. Exactly where does it sway Man is not an animal? God created Man in his image... but he created all life from the same mold, so to speak. Faith and Critical thinking were not part of the original plan... Eve gave us those when she ate that apple. Before that, things just were.

I think, we are talking about two different things. Thing 1 is "Base Fear". That primal fear that drives us to survive. The push in us to eat, drink, fuck, run or fight... Thats what, I think anyway, phee is talking about. Thing 2 is "False Fear" or Surface Fear. Which is what we get when we veneer modern life over the base. Fear of money, as Marc, brought up is a "False Fear". Though driven, on a subconscious level by a base fear, the fear we feel when doing our finances is artificial in that we are so far removed from the base fear we can no longer see the connection out of hand. The two are connected. Any false fear can be traced back to the Base that gave rise to it. In the example above.. the fear/worry/whatever surface emotion is a veneer over the "I need to eat, I need shelter. I need to impress a mate/potential mate. I need to procreate" We don't really feel those base fears directly. We feel the veneer that we put over them. Some people can control those fears better than others... to a point they don't even realize anymore that fear, even the veneer fear, is even there. They use faith, logic or some other venue to control that fear so much that.. well.. they can't/won't feel it anymore. They delude themselves into thinking they alone have somehow overcome the base instincts that have carried us for 3.5million years into the now. Which in itrself is a fear.. a fear that they are just like everyone else.

I'm sorry Mike, but you are out of your depth here. For one... some people choose to live thier lives in such a way as to make a lasting impact on generations to come. Living for others is what makes them truly happy. Who are you to belittle that choice? Why is a self centered life the only valid one? Doies invalidating other peoples life choices somehow make yours bertter? and the second... Your example doesn't float. You last thoughts will prolly never be "I'm scared". no matter what the situation. Accepting that you can do nothing to stop an inevitable death does not equate to over coming fear. i say this because as long as there is a way, a chance... you will keep fighting to live... Thats fear. I know, you don't believe that... and thats your choice to do. There are a great many people who study human emotions and thier base afects on oour everyday lives that say you are DEAD wrong. Fear is our most basic and eepest set survival tool. Just like every other animal on this planet.

I would think YOU would look better with them... but I would not do you with or without them. What should I do for the next two hours?

Honestly... what freezes me in my tracks... the abject horror of it over powering my sences... Water heights but if you really want to watch me go catatonic... put me on a high bridge over deep water.

Go fishing and talk about cars.

I don't. Infact, I'm pretty sure I never have passed out... not even when I recieved this lovely crack in my skull. Who would you like most to call you right now?

thinking about tan lines..

Fighting with Newegg over the fact that I paid for over night shipping and a rush order fee to an amount over $250 for stuff that is still not shipped that I needed this god damn afternoon.

Installing a windows 2003 small busniess server.... I'm going to be here late....

Waiting for Fedex to show up with my parts.

I really fell off my chair laughing. Thanks Troy.

Pretending to work.

Pie in the sky

money can not buy happiness

My two cents

Time flys

(I've seen a great many skunks... never seen a drunk one... drunk pheasant, yeah, skunk? no) Smells like teen spirit

Her shit don't stink