Scary Guy

YOU BITE YOUR TONGUE! We'll never be as bad as that club.

I actually saw them back stage at Pine Knob for Gigantour 07. My boss at I-Rock had tickets and passes and we knew two people on the crew. Fun times but yeah... not really what I'd call dead-line front room material.

Just because I have it doesn't mean I like it. For example, my pop/top40 collection. Not that I'll ever plan on using it again, but I have in the past at certain Mephisto's/other events.

Actually I'd probably laugh them out of the bar. OK, I should say the alternative scene. Not all of it mind you. But at least you can tolerate that and not run out the door. The other stuff I wouldn't tolerate and I'd just be GONE. However industrial mash-ups with rap songs are ok... at the other club. I do hold The Works to a different standard, as I think we all do.

GPS track the cargo. If a ship is lost, find the cargo, find the pirates. Wait till it gets back to their base, find the pirate base.

This is what I played this week. Pree night music was some awesome 80's. 21:00 ----- The Newlydeads - Cities in Dust Pouppée Fabrikk - I Want Candy !Apoptygma Berzerk - Apotheosis - O Fortuna Never Dies Beborn Beton - Another World (Extended Remix) Covenant - Stalker Project Pitchfork - Timekiller (And One remix) Wolfsheim - find you're gone XPQ-21 - bela lugosi's dead Godhead - Eleanor Rigby KMFDM - Blackball Marilyn Manson - Astonishing Panorama of the Endtimes Rob Zombie - Devil Man Pantera - Hole in the Sky 22:00 ----- Danzig - She Rides Prong - Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck Sepultura - Ratamahatta Cornix Maledictum - Floret Silva Garmarna - Gamen !Korn - Freak on a Leash (Dante Ross Mix) Disturbed - Shout Das Ich - Das dunkle Land The Electric Hellfire Club - Sunday Bloody Sunday !KMFDM - Strut Combichrist - Get Out of My Head !Celldweller - Switchback !Combichrist - Happy Fcuking Birthday (someone's birthday, required play) 23:00 ----- Skinny Puppy - Addiction (Gunter Schulz of KMFDM - Opium mix) Theatre of Tragedy - Machine (VNV Nation Remix) Unit 187 - Dick SNOG - Late Twentieth Century Boy Sister Machine Gun - Burn The Revolting Cocks - Da Ya Think I'm Sexy (Horny Version) Nine Inch Nails - Closer !Nitzer Ebb - Lightning Man (The Industry vs The Ebb Mix) !Mesh - Someone to Believe in The Cult - Fire Woman Oblivion Scenes The Faint - Glass Danse Razed in Black - We Are Glass (Transmutator Mix) The sisters of mercy - dance on glass !Liam Lynch - United States Of Whatever The frogs - Reelin' and Rockin' #2 Rob Zombie - Dragula 16 Volt - Downtime II Collide - Whip It The Newlydeads - Submission 16 Volt - Downtime II THe Prodigy - Fuel my Fire Tumor - My Submission Grendel - Zombienation (V.2k5) !Combichrist - Shut Up and Swallow !Switchblade Symphony - Sweet !KMFDM - Juke Joint Jezebel (Metropolis Mix) 01:00 ----- !Ministry - New World Order !Snake River Conspiricy - Lovesong Cyber Axis - Can't Get you out of my Head !Praga Khan - Breakfast in Vegas Hanzel ünd Gretyl - Mutant Starseed Creation icon of coil - Shelter (analogue brain remix) Melotron - Tanz mit dem Teufel Neuroticfish - They're Coming to Take Me Away Pain - Shut Your Mouth Mindless Self Indulgence - Shut Me Up Deadstar Assembly - Send me an Angel Lucyfire - The Pain Song (Club Mix) Omnibox - Here Comes the Rain Again Big Al Carson - Take your Drunk Ass Home

Wilhelm told me to :( Whatever, he's right in that I have to try to keep everyone happy. He doesn't actually DJ, he just works the back practice system because it's cold back there and I hate cold. Eventually I'll have him working the decks though probably but I'm scared because he really does like crap music. You really want to hear "East Bound and Down" in the middle of your goth night? (I do, but I'm playing for the crowd (mostly)). Anyhow here's the playlist in all it's glory. 22:00 - STEVIE ----- II by Kevin Drumm I Saw a Polysexual by Vadislav Delay From Twisted Minds by Leviathan Leb Doch by Der Plan Paradise Lost & Not Drifting by the New Thrill Parade Monoplazaby John Foxx Menetekel by Les Vampyrettes No Veo by Staccato du Mal DJ Saint (early set) ----- Informatik - A Matter of Time Stromkern - Perfect Sunrise (Blank remix) Plastic - Sense of Life (SITD Mix) Edge of Dawn - Black Heart (Alpha) X Marks the Pedwalk - Maximum Pace New Order - The Perfect Kiss Depeche Mode - Enjoy the Silence Stendeck - Something Special is Going to Happen Rotersand - Storm Daniel Meyer - King of The Club Encphalen - Rise Ginger Snaps - Feel The Rhythm Re.Work - Are You Scary Guy ----- !Marilyn Manson - Personal Jebus (V) !Rob Zombie - Living Dead Girl !Lamb of God - Laid to Rest (V) !Rammstein - Du Reichst so goot (kmfdm remix) !Revolting Cocks - Do Ya Think I'm Sexy? (horney version) (V) !Clan of Xymox - Louise The Sisters of Mercy - Temple of Love (V) The Cult - Sweet Soul Sister !Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Deanna (V) Space - Female of the Species Wilhelm K ----- Depeche Mode - Fly on the Windscreen (extended mix) !Nine Inch Nails - closer ohGr - water Hanzel ünd Gretyl - komm zu uns KMFDM - Juke Joint Jezebel Razed in Black - oh my goth :wumpscut: - Christfuck !VNV Nation - Standing !Ministry - Everyday is Halloween nocker ----- Trash Groove Girls - Suger Pink Go Go Baby The Rorschach Garden - Move Myself Sleepmask - Harms Way!! Joy Division - Transmission The Birthday Party - Release The Bats The Bones - Memphis 77 The Cramps - Human Fly Specimen - Step in Step Out The Mission - Deliverance Siouxsie - Halloween Caustic - The Hustle! STEVIE's final set is lost because he was too drunk to type it in I guess.

I'm not having any PM issues, just in case anyone was wondering :D

In the case of Black Metal yes, good music can make me stand bad vocals. I like melodic metal with harmony, not a bunch of screaming. I think one of my favorite bands is Fear Factory which can do both screaming and singing. Screaming does have it's place but it shouldn't be the entire song. For fucks sake lets kill the vocoder already. It stopped being cool when Cher did it in "Believe". Industrial is different, as is black metal unfortunately. Screaming or screwed up sound from vocals is almost expected. Also rap & modern R&B are just annoying, as is the numetal that tries to take elements of those and blend them in.

I have as much tolerance for them as they do for me, which has always been my stance. There are those that are cool and don't try to push their faith on me and I respect that and am cool with it. Then there are others that... well lets just call them fundies. I can get into heated debate too. Push me hard enough and I'll get delusional too, subgenius style. "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children are smart." - Henry Mencken

Yes but you don't have to do it from there. http://www.myspace.com/thearrogantatheist Those are pretty stylish :D We really need to start wearing our non religion on our sleeves. Although the shirt in the last link in the first post does give money to the Dawkins foundation :D

Ditto, I voted Paul However I don't know what is more annoying. When the right was talking up their president bitching about the left, or now when they're bitching about the president being a part of the left.

However Teleology is not required for Karma.

I never said you used the word aint. Just stated that it wasn't a word. Your use of affect/effect was fine too. I was just stating another example. Also it's grammar, not grammer Copy everything you've written into a spell check and see what comes up red.

(fine I toned it down) We've got a LONG way to go. http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=265 http://www.outcampaign.org

If the shoe fits. It's like if he called me white, I am white, so I accept it. I've also never calmed to be sane. Apparently you can see and understand what I'm saying which either means great minds think alike, or we're both mad as a hatter. Please note that I didn't call him stupid, I just said not smart ENOUGH, because I do believe he's smart. Take it to the grammar thread, and go get a spell check. Maybe those are all typographical errors but yeah you tend to misspell one or two words. Try Mozilla Firefox as it has a built in spell check and underlines errors in red. Obviously that won't help with grammatical errors such as interchanging the words affect and effect but it's at least some help. Also aint isn't a word, but it's become one through time (or at least generally accepted). Talking to your general run of the mill average person they wouldn't know the difference between morals and ethics either. I didn't know because I've never paid attention to either. So congratulations on teaching me something new and giving me more power, because knowledge is power and I will use that power to CRUSH YOU ALL LIKE ANTS! If you really want to point out fallacies in the English language though lets start with ebonics, dawg.

Who were you again? And what are you doing on my lawn GET OFF MY LAWN! Seriously though I hope things improve.

"Nic said he told Becky that Obama's nick name in high school was nigger and she believed him and was about to tell other people until he finally told her no just kidding but you are retarded. I think becky has a bachelors degree also They just hand those things out like candy" A 4.0 you say? :D

I'm sure we can fill all those requests. Now does ANYONE ELSE have some? :D

It doesn't and I do. Just because you don't understand me doesn't mean I'm not making sense. Also relative to relativism Either you're not smart enough to figure it out or I'm just insane. More likely a combination of the two. This is all philosophy, and some think that the universe expands and collapses eternally with the universe playing out the exact same way each time. Meaning we're doomed to do this forever. No I don't prescribe to that theory since I like to believe in some free will. However cause and effect control the universe. Morals are defined by the majority of people who's ethics coincide. But they do very from person to person. The MAJORITY is the largest group of people that agree on what is ethical/moral. There is no good or evil other than personal viewpoints on what good and evil are. I know I sound like a sociopath but murder is just the ending of a life. A true sociopath would feel nothing taking that life due to a lack of guilt though. Babies die, puppies drown, people get sad, and life marches on. Say for example I kill someone, which is bad. However say I was hungry and they were the only source of food for miles around and I'd die of starvation otherwise. Kind of like stealing bread to survive, only taken to the next level. Technically both are "bad", but screw your good and evil, I'm hungry, meat's meat, and mans gotta eat! Also you'll note that I didn't say karma I said social karma, which is quite different. Karma is the universes way of rewarding or punishing you for doing something good or bad (which I think is bunk). Social karma is society's way of doing the same from observing your actions and then rewarding/punishing you accordingly based on what society thinks is good or bad. Take for example THE LAW, which when enforced isn't always justice, but it is THE LAW. Let's look at a traffic violation... Say I'm at a red light, with a sign that says "NO TURN ON RED". Pretty simple and easy to understand, if I turn on red I should get a ticket because I'm breaking THE LAW. However cross traffic stops and gets a green arrow in their left turn lane and I'm turning right. No traffic is coming and I know I won't get hit if I go forward but this light doesn't have a green arrow, I will still get a ticket. Society says I'm breaking THE LAW and should be punished, but society can go fuck itself because society is WRONG (note I've never gotten a ticket for this, it's just a good example). Explaining this situation to a police officer would yield one of two scenarios. The first is the officer understands my point of view, gives me a warning but secretly agrees with me, and waves me off. The second and more likely is he gives me a ticket because he can and I look like a freak and that's how he makes his money. Everything depends on the point of view, and points of view can change in an instant or they can be cemented and kept forever. This can be narrowed to the scope of one person or widened to an entire society. However it's harder to change the opinion of a society on what is and is not moral but it can be done over time, like for example gay marriage. As a friend on another forum stated it "used to be a secret that had to be kept at all costs". Today you can be openly gay and not be stoned to death for it, even though a lot of fundies don't agree with it at all and probably vomit when they think of two guys making out (hell I get a little sick to the stomach myself but I'm not so close minded as to say they're going to burn in hell for all eternity for it). In short morals are for morons and I'd sooner go with my internal compass of right and wrong than what society defines as such for me. This will probably eventually land me in jail but at least I'll be standing up for what I believe in.

Can't wait to see you both there. Let me know if you remember the movie.

Goddamnit I'm working The Ritz that night. Hey you know where would have been a better spot for this show? Rather than at a venue that just does bands and has no "alternative/gothic/industrial" night?

Technically depending on who you ask NONE of us have free will anyway. Although that's more philosophy. Ethics like most things vary from person to person and depends on ones point of view. This all sounds more like domino theory/cause and effect to me. As far as morals go, those are defined by the majority. There is no good or evil, there is only life and social karma.

Depends on the cover, depends on the bands There's a shirt I like that says... So covering it is like saying that the original band that did it didn't do a good enough job and you can do better. So you BETTER do better if you do. Unless you're a punk band in which case it's expected to suck (that's what punk is though, and it doesn't care if it sounds like shit, I'm down with that). I mean it's great if you like the song and it's your favorite and you want to cover it... however if you know you can't do it justice don't even attempt it. Some label might think it's "cool" or "hip" and throw it on a comp (Cleopatra Records can die in a fire for some of the crap they've churned out but they're trying to redeem themselves at least). I like covers that cross genres because someone who really likes the original might hear it and discover they like another genre of music. Even stuff like Paul Anka, Richard Cheese, Pat Boone, Black Velvet Flag, Señor Coconut, Nouvelle Vague, and a few other bands that escape my memory are great. Hell Señor Coconut has an album of all Kraftwerk covers done in a mambo tropical style which I think is brilliant. One of my favorite sites used to be the now defunct http://www.coversproject.com (holy fuck it's back up um... ok) which lists all the bands that have covered an artist and all the covers that artist has done. Seriously play with that site, it is cool as hell. I've found some great covers (and some terrible ones) of songs I've really liked for YEARS. Hell there are some covers I like better than the original (for example, Hot Rod Lincoln originally by Charlie Ryan covered by Commander Cody and His Lost Airmen). Also the origins of the term cover are interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_version#History Although it doesn't state the original term coined by a disk jockey back in the early 50's I believe.