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Ditto, I voted Paul However I don't know what is more annoying. When the right was talking up their president bitching about the left, or now when they're bitching about the president being a part of the left.

However Teleology is not required for Karma.

I never said you used the word aint. Just stated that it wasn't a word. Your use of affect/effect was fine too. I was just stating another example. Also it's grammar, not grammer Copy everything you've written into a spell check and see what comes up red.

(fine I toned it down) We've got a LONG way to go. http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=265 http://www.outcampaign.org

If the shoe fits. It's like if he called me white, I am white, so I accept it. I've also never calmed to be sane. Apparently you can see and understand what I'm saying which either means great minds think alike, or we're both mad as a hatter. Please note that I didn't call him stupid, I just said not smart ENOUGH, because I do believe he's smart. Take it to the grammar thread, and go get a spell check. Maybe those are all typographical errors but yeah you tend to misspell one or two words. Try Mozilla Firefox as it has a built in spell check and underlines errors in red. Obviously that won't help with grammatical errors such as interchanging the words affect and effect but it's at least some help. Also aint isn't a word, but it's become one through time (or at least generally accepted). Talking to your general run of the mill average person they wouldn't know the difference between morals and ethics either. I didn't know because I've never paid attention to either. So congratulations on teaching me something new and giving me more power, because knowledge is power and I will use that power to CRUSH YOU ALL LIKE ANTS! If you really want to point out fallacies in the English language though lets start with ebonics, dawg.

Who were you again? And what are you doing on my lawn GET OFF MY LAWN! Seriously though I hope things improve.

"Nic said he told Becky that Obama's nick name in high school was nigger and she believed him and was about to tell other people until he finally told her no just kidding but you are retarded. I think becky has a bachelors degree also They just hand those things out like candy" A 4.0 you say? :D

I'm sure we can fill all those requests. Now does ANYONE ELSE have some? :D

It doesn't and I do. Just because you don't understand me doesn't mean I'm not making sense. Also relative to relativism Either you're not smart enough to figure it out or I'm just insane. More likely a combination of the two. This is all philosophy, and some think that the universe expands and collapses eternally with the universe playing out the exact same way each time. Meaning we're doomed to do this forever. No I don't prescribe to that theory since I like to believe in some free will. However cause and effect control the universe. Morals are defined by the majority of people who's ethics coincide. But they do very from person to person. The MAJORITY is the largest group of people that agree on what is ethical/moral. There is no good or evil other than personal viewpoints on what good and evil are. I know I sound like a sociopath but murder is just the ending of a life. A true sociopath would feel nothing taking that life due to a lack of guilt though. Babies die, puppies drown, people get sad, and life marches on. Say for example I kill someone, which is bad. However say I was hungry and they were the only source of food for miles around and I'd die of starvation otherwise. Kind of like stealing bread to survive, only taken to the next level. Technically both are "bad", but screw your good and evil, I'm hungry, meat's meat, and mans gotta eat! Also you'll note that I didn't say karma I said social karma, which is quite different. Karma is the universes way of rewarding or punishing you for doing something good or bad (which I think is bunk). Social karma is society's way of doing the same from observing your actions and then rewarding/punishing you accordingly based on what society thinks is good or bad. Take for example THE LAW, which when enforced isn't always justice, but it is THE LAW. Let's look at a traffic violation... Say I'm at a red light, with a sign that says "NO TURN ON RED". Pretty simple and easy to understand, if I turn on red I should get a ticket because I'm breaking THE LAW. However cross traffic stops and gets a green arrow in their left turn lane and I'm turning right. No traffic is coming and I know I won't get hit if I go forward but this light doesn't have a green arrow, I will still get a ticket. Society says I'm breaking THE LAW and should be punished, but society can go fuck itself because society is WRONG (note I've never gotten a ticket for this, it's just a good example). Explaining this situation to a police officer would yield one of two scenarios. The first is the officer understands my point of view, gives me a warning but secretly agrees with me, and waves me off. The second and more likely is he gives me a ticket because he can and I look like a freak and that's how he makes his money. Everything depends on the point of view, and points of view can change in an instant or they can be cemented and kept forever. This can be narrowed to the scope of one person or widened to an entire society. However it's harder to change the opinion of a society on what is and is not moral but it can be done over time, like for example gay marriage. As a friend on another forum stated it "used to be a secret that had to be kept at all costs". Today you can be openly gay and not be stoned to death for it, even though a lot of fundies don't agree with it at all and probably vomit when they think of two guys making out (hell I get a little sick to the stomach myself but I'm not so close minded as to say they're going to burn in hell for all eternity for it). In short morals are for morons and I'd sooner go with my internal compass of right and wrong than what society defines as such for me. This will probably eventually land me in jail but at least I'll be standing up for what I believe in.

Can't wait to see you both there. Let me know if you remember the movie.

Goddamnit I'm working The Ritz that night. Hey you know where would have been a better spot for this show? Rather than at a venue that just does bands and has no "alternative/gothic/industrial" night?

Technically depending on who you ask NONE of us have free will anyway. Although that's more philosophy. Ethics like most things vary from person to person and depends on ones point of view. This all sounds more like domino theory/cause and effect to me. As far as morals go, those are defined by the majority. There is no good or evil, there is only life and social karma.

Depends on the cover, depends on the bands There's a shirt I like that says... So covering it is like saying that the original band that did it didn't do a good enough job and you can do better. So you BETTER do better if you do. Unless you're a punk band in which case it's expected to suck (that's what punk is though, and it doesn't care if it sounds like shit, I'm down with that). I mean it's great if you like the song and it's your favorite and you want to cover it... however if you know you can't do it justice don't even attempt it. Some label might think it's "cool" or "hip" and throw it on a comp (Cleopatra Records can die in a fire for some of the crap they've churned out but they're trying to redeem themselves at least). I like covers that cross genres because someone who really likes the original might hear it and discover they like another genre of music. Even stuff like Paul Anka, Richard Cheese, Pat Boone, Black Velvet Flag, Señor Coconut, Nouvelle Vague, and a few other bands that escape my memory are great. Hell Señor Coconut has an album of all Kraftwerk covers done in a mambo tropical style which I think is brilliant. One of my favorite sites used to be the now defunct http://www.coversproject.com (holy fuck it's back up um... ok) which lists all the bands that have covered an artist and all the covers that artist has done. Seriously play with that site, it is cool as hell. I've found some great covers (and some terrible ones) of songs I've really liked for YEARS. Hell there are some covers I like better than the original (for example, Hot Rod Lincoln originally by Charlie Ryan covered by Commander Cody and His Lost Airmen). Also the origins of the term cover are interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_version#History Although it doesn't state the original term coined by a disk jockey back in the early 50's I believe.

dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-DARWIN! Parents should teach their kids about drugs instead of letting the drug dealers do it.

Thanks for jumping the gun on this. I was all ready to post something since I seem to be doing it every week now. I hope you have a good time on the other side of the bar. I also hope that everyone makes it out and has a GREAT time, like we always do every week. We'll totally get that Cramps request on for you too TheOsakaKoneko. Any other requests from anyone let'em fly here.

A better question would be I guess.... which ladder are you on? The friends ladder or the real ladder? www.laddertheory.com

Unfortunately if you have to wonder the answer is yes (for the moment anyway). Good to see you around here. This place is better than the DCC ever was, even if it's closely moderated at least there aren't idiots running around acting like... well... idiots.

Also if you're interested in what crazy shit gets played, here is the playlist from last week. 21:00 ----- !Rammstein - Amerika Forbidden Dimension - Big Black Hearse Rob Zombie - Living Dead Girl Front Line Assembly - Surface Patterns (Mission Control mix) Unit 187 - Dick Godhead - Eleanor Rigby L'âme Immortelle - Hate is Just a 4-Letter Word Ministry - Radar Love The Newlydeads - Mental Hopscotch Laibach - Tanz mit Laibach (Upbeat remix) Nine Inch Nails - Only (delobbo version) 22:00 ----- !Razed in Black - We are Glass (Transmutator Mix) Gary Numan - I Die, You Die Ministry - Revenge Depeche Mode - It's No Good Love and Rockets - Ball of Confusion Shriekback - Nemesis (The Arch Deviant Mix) The Birthday Massacre - Video Kid (Neo-Goth Remix) Cyber Axis - Can't Get You Out Of My Head MDFMK - Missing Time SNOG - Corporate Slave !Rammstein - Du Hast Zeromancer - Send Me an Angel !Mushroomhead - Sun Doesn't Rise 23:00 ----- Sepultura - Biotech is Godzilla Disturbed - Shout Grendel - Zombie Nation DEATHSTARS - our god the drugs Dark Corridor - The End is the Beginning is the End Samael - Together !Type O Negative - Highway Star The Revolting Cocks - Mr. Lucky Pop Will Eat Itself - Everything's Cool !Nine Inch Nails - Something I can Never Have KMFDM - Godlike (i will pray) The Genitorturers - Machine Love (Evil D & Sketchy Mix) !The Nekromantix - Bloody Holiday The Casket Bastards - (Do) The Frank The flametrick subs - mad scientist 00:00 ----- The Quakes - Paint It Black The Stray Cats - Rock This Town The Polecats - Make a Circuit With Me Reverend Horton Heat - Bad Reputation deadbolt - it's a cerrpy world EJ Wells - Hearse Driver April March - Chick Habit My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult - Cuz It's Hot Das Ich - Kindgott (extended version) Lard - Bozo Skeleton The Anti-Nowhere League - Streets of London The uk subs - Underground Undercover Agent for the CIA The Business - Hang Up Your Boots Iggy Pop - Death is Certain Alice Cooper - The Black Widow !The Kidneythieves - Zerospace Hanzel ünd Gretyl - Watch TV Do Nothing 20 Dead Flower Children - Safety Dance The Electric Hellfire Club - Devil Worshipping Son of a Bitch The Sisters of Mercy - Dominion Mother Russia

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to add... the flametrick subs - mad scientist Tears for fears - mad world Pop Will Eat Itself - Dance of the Mad Bastards The Fields of the Nephilim - Vet for the Insane Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain The Osmonds - Crazy Horses MC Hawking - Crazy as Fuck Queen - Stone Cold Crazy Ozzy Osbourn - Crazy Train The Toadies - Possum Kingdom (a song about a serial killer sung in the first person). Oingo Boingo - Insanity Also, any gospel is PURE INSANITY!

Metalica - Sanitarium Nazareth - Crazy (A Suitable Case for Treatment) Megadeth - Psychotron, Sweating Bullets Black Sabbath - Am I Going Insane The Flametrick Subs - Can't Find my Mind The Nekromantix - Brain Error

The fact that you even use internet explorer means something bad. Go get firefox already! www.mozilla.com Then get the adblock plus and noscript add-ons (google them). Your computer web browser wise will be totally secure unless you allow something to run that isn't supposed to. Also run Spybot Search & Destroy (google it) and get Windows Defender from Microsoft. This goes to everyone, not just him. I also officially rebrand this the cornfucker virus :D Start spreading that around.

Fearmongering if you ask me. I run clamwin and watch my packets carefully. I've probably got better security than the NSA, but not quite as good as a box that isn't connected on the internet running OpenBSD in a room with heavy lead shielding.

I've seen him, I've seen his posts. I'm not sure if the posts were someone acting as him or were actually him. My friend said he was pretty annoying though in person.

Money orders might just work.