the eternal

((Hugs)) I'd click the emoticon but IE only pulls up some of them with the new upgrade This may be impossible, but, at some point you NEED to move to metro Detroit. If you stay there much longer, it will become like the Shining. I pheel like there's a difference between stating and defending your opinion and being batshit crazy. I pheel that you bend over backwards, even for a mod, to show how you had the best intentions in any of your posts. I pheel that it's important to remember that some people truly want to start shit, and actually bait others into fights to make them feel a sense of superiority to compensate for their failings and lack of achievement. I pheel that there's a difference between passion and anger and we should all try to watch for the difference in our lives. I pheel that if I was a mod, I'd bite my tongue so many times, I'd chew it clear off.

Here's the good news! You can stay at home that way you'll never have to worry about the MAN's pesky traffic laws, be naked, so as not to worry about the MAN's pesky obscenity laws not work so as not to worry about the MAN's pesky birth certificate laws (hey Obama didn't--wink wink nudge nudge), and die at home since you're not going to leave the house (which would require clothes)and be troubled with a Hospital that's in the Obama's socialist healthcare system. AND, since you don't work, say it with me people, you don't pay a cent for healthcare nor are penalized, because poor people are NOT required to pay for coverage. You can be home, naked, and dead! WOOHOO FREEDOM!

As long as one can afford it, new tires are always a good thing! Now I hope you remembered the alignment young man, or it's back to the shop for you! You know it's important for all vehicles, but ESPECIALLY ones with Four Wheel Drive. That's how they cope. Guys especially. If they actually had to think about the pain they caused, they would have a hard time moving forward. Better to just be dicks, and insulate themselves than confront the damage they've done. bean tells me that all the time too! I'm on the way. You should stop by and say 'ello You should try this one instead. I'm feeling like I did not make the best use of my day, but that's okay. At least I got to spend it with my bean.

Ok I'm not gonna give you a big tongue bath in this thread like I did for Prick, but a lot of people think you're cool. Over the years you've opened up a lot on the board and injected yourself into different interests and what not. That's great. A couple other guys joined when you did and posted only in the music threads. They may have been cool, but a lot of people didn't like them because they always seemed to have a chip on their shoulder, like they were goth incarnation of the snarky at the corner record store, and we were all idiots. And despite you're musical knowledge, you don't post like that. I confess that the corner record store's days are numbered. If the music's independent it's gonna be digital downloads, and all the music stores left will be named Best Buy and Wal-Mart. One day I'll show people the movie High Fidelity and we can all look at it as a relic of a bygone era, like malt shops and penny arcades. I confess you're my new hero. I confess that now I can't read any of your posts anymore. The more you learn of someone, the quicker they go from hero to flawed mortal, and in most cases on to ugly American. I think she knows. They're in every thread. Eevee, you should really consider bodyguards I confess that I often go back through an entire thread to see if something was mentioned before, esp in the music threads. NO ONE else does. There was a thread where Gary Numan's "Cars" was mentioned 5 times. The worst offender used to be Homicidal Heathen, who would often start a thread on a current event topic a few days after someone else started the same thread. Spook is a repeat offender too, just like Karl Marx. Wait, no, that's Richard Marx Spook set a short-term memory repeat thread record! He started a birthday thread for my good friend Pomba Gira, less than 1 day after bean did. Maybe this picture will get you remember . I confess I suddenly want to gain weight just so I can bust into a room and say "Ohhh Yeahhh!"

You're way too hard on yourself. I'm sure you're fine. Not that this is about nudity. It's about a non-manly board grabbing onto its collective sac for a manly weekend, and Mstrbeau bringing his camera to laugh at us all.

Black Jack only pretends to be this nice laid back guy. Underneath is this grunting raging man. I won by TKO, but in the manliest moment of the weekend, Black Jack picked up a tree and RAN around camp with it. And then acted like he hadn't done anything! He's the kind of guy who would swing around a 20" cock and say "Oh this little thing? Yeah I'm a grow-er not a show-er" BTW, I don't know if Chernobyl got my picture message, but I went out and bought this as a Manfast prize. To the manpion!

I always pray for you and your dad. I'll do it until things are better.

That sucks! Brew and View is only Wednesday and Thursday. So you're knocking out 50% of Brew and Views I would have posted for this Wednesday because it's going to be killer, but I may have to do court prep. I confess that BECAUSE my ex has made my life hell BY taking way more money than what I'm supposed to pay based on my meager income---leaving beanternal severely in debt taking someone away from me, regularly threatening me and filing bogus charges against me that have been dismissed because of all these things and more that although I don't wish it, I confess that if she died tomorrow, beanternal wouldn't mind. (I checked with the bean part to get the all-clear on the last part--so it's a confession for her too)

Do you know how news outlets have to give a full disclosure when they have an interest in something. It's important to note that EVERY SINGLE reference Gaf has EVER used is froma conservative source. Case in point---This article came from the Washington Examiner The Washington Examiner is a free daily newspaper with a conservative viewpoint published in Springfield, Virginia, and distributed around Washington, D.C. and its suburbs. It is owned by Denver businessman Philip Anschutz who is one of the world's richest men. The newspaper was formerly distributed only in the suburbs of Washington, under the titles of Montgomery Journal, Prince George's Journal, and Northern Virginia Journal. Anschutz purchased their parent company, Journal Newspapers Inc., in October 2004. On February 1, 2005, the paper's name changed to the Washington Examiner, and it adopted a logo and format similar to that of another newspaper owned by Anschutz, the San Francisco Examiner.[1] The Examiner's parent company, Clarity Media Group, also owns the conservative opinion magazine, The Weekly Standard.[2]

Wow! You know everyone is thinking "Are you kidding me?" You really have it going on. And you act like you know it. Without flaunting it. That's hot. From what I've observed, AFTER confidence, the sexiest thing a man can do to attract women is 'cool' AND you are chock full of cool. You don't have to say anything. It's just there. Here's a confession---I'm jealous of your ability to exhibit cool without even trying. After what I just wrote, some of you may think I had another confession coming, but no I don't have a mancrush on Prick. It's still for Phee. Because he's awesome. But seriously Prick, you're so way ahead of most of the guys on this board, it's not even funny. Which brings me to my next confession. Due to my low self-confidence, I would think I'm the least attractive too, but there's seriously a LOT of ugly dudes on the board and at City Club. Women too. But not as many as the guys. But ladies, it's not for lack of trying. Despite your superior beauty, a TON of you try to make up for this "unfortunateness" by dressing completely inappropriately for your body So many of you have such pretty features that could make you hallowed. But instead of accentuating all the curves you possess, not to mention all the the little things (that make women like bean so amazingly pretty) you mistakenly think skin at all costs, as if all men are neanderthal flesh magnets, and so you choose to show off your rolls and arm fat as if they were being processed for shipment out of an irregular sausage factory I confess I'm a little snobby. I confess I fear the reaction from women, because I feel that there's this unwritten rule of what comments are ok for women to say but completely off-limits for men to say. I confess I hate fashion and makeup and all those girly things, but I have this small catty gay side of me that can't help but make comments like that and judge you when you dress against the natural beauty so many of you possess. It also means that, although I won't watch those top model shows , I WILL be one of the few men to watch those annoying Joan and Melissa post awards shows where they make fun of celebrity fashions, and I will throw in a few barbs of my own. I confess that I think it's qualities like that is one of the reasons why I didn't get laid more when I was younger. Some women thought I was gay. I confess bean has really drawn out the man in me. And I love her for it. While not as attractive and cool as prick (because few are) you also have no reason to feel the way you do. A friend of mine used to want to bang the crap out of you. Which I think might be painful, so I don't recommend it. But seriously, you are undervaluing yourself. THAT SAID--the least attractive things to women (since I told you the two most attractive things) is acting desperate and creepy and acting insecure and whiny about people not liking you or wanting you. GOOD NEWS---Neither of you ever have a problem with the first one, but now that you've confessed you'll have to accept that women like you and want to be around you. Because if you don't you WILL become that which you fear. OMG, stop it! You're Prick! There is no one like Prick. When people see you they say "Oh cool. There's Prick" I'm not here to embarrass others, so I won't, but there are tons of people that blend in completely, so much so that they're not even noticed if they're gone. That's not you. If I have a get together, I never have a one person that I want there. I have a wish list of people I want there, and you're on it! there's always those people that I think, "Oh that's awesome ______ is there!" And you're one of them. Except Brew and View. I expect you there and am pissed off when you're not. OK, I'm not really cool. Never have been. And that's such garbage. You make people happy. You are that quiet yet engaged in conversation person that everyone thinks is interesting because you make them feel interesting. You are wanted in your own right. At times, I become too much, and I guarantee there are some people that prefer your company. Everyone loves being around you, because you're so easy going and ready to laugh or nod or just be there for people. You're the person no one realizes how much they need until you're not there. And you're beautiful too. And that counts for a lot. Do see what you just did! You just MADE her a crappy one-letter accessory to me. Be gone Gimp! That is until you get it right. It's beanternal ---------------------------- I confess I can't stand when people don't leave their voice recording on their voicemail. Instead it's this robotic, "You have reached 313-555..." I'm looking at you Meg. (and others) We all hate our voices on tape, but our friends love ti! When I call and get a friends voicemail, I think "Oh that's my friend." And I'm happy When I call and get "You have reached 313" I think, oh I hope this the right number. Wait, did I mix this up? I dialed 313-555 didn't I? OH SHIT! What if I leave this personal message and it turns out to be someone else and they'll listen thinking "Who is this jackass and why is he leaving a message on my machine? And why is he giving his address and asking me to come over? Oh, I'll come over all right, and I'll kill him for leaving rambling messages on my machine. What a dipshit. Your number's up now dipshit" So, thank you for making me feel like I'm encouraging a bipolar homicidal maniac to come to my house and teach me a lesson with a hatchet and a blowtorch, which they will use to make a game called eternal ball hackey nutsack. MY DEATH and my testicules being volleyed around on some killers heels all because you were too vain to leave your voice on a recording. I hope you're happy My blood is on your hands!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK maybe I exaggerated a wee bit there. Now everyone, go leave recordings on your voicemails.

So that's the reason for what's been happening (inside joke) TA, if you move out here, I can't love you, not the way you need, but at least you'll be closer so you can see me more. ---------------- Tits Mcgee---I haven't been on lately (and I don't even go on Facebook, so I missed most of your emo-ing (Twilight references??--please) but tread lightly before you go 100% back with this guy. I don't like how he broke it off You're better than how he treated you a month ago. It was disrespectfull and offensive, considering how you always were towards him. REMEMBER: He's the lucky one to have the chance of coming back to you. (not the other way around) ------------ Oh, I meant to post this awhile back. Slogo asked me, by voicemail, "Why did some guy ask if I was Jewish 10 seconds after he met me?" "Do I give off a Jew-y vibe" NO. Although sometimes Slogo, you do give off a Chewy vibe HERE'S THE RUB Jews are known to be funny and charismatic. It's in our DNA. Seinfeld. Sandler. Schimmel. Shandling. Sellers. Saget. Schwimmer. Shearer. Soupy Sales---even his NAME is entertaining) You want to take in the greatest hits of the guys I just mentioned and you'll have to take off a week of work and only get up for bathroom breaks to watch it all. And that's just the Ss!!!!!! I know ----scary! So, OBVIOUSLY, he met you and realized how funny and charismatic you were, and immediately assumed you to be a "member of the tribe" That, or you opened your legs and he checked out your manliness pouch. Because it's common knowledge that all Jews are packin' some major heat down below WAIT---WRONG HEAT That's more like it!

Absolute Classic. Despite Julia Roberts being in it, I even liked the quasi-remake--Closer. The imaginarium of doctor parnassus Should have been MUCH bigger here. I loved it. Holy shit was Tom Waits good in it.

I disagree with all of you. Instead I am going to borrow from Alejandro Jodorowsky when he spoke of El Topo "If you are great, David Lynch films are great. If you are limited, David Lynch films are limited." the eternal has spoken. There will be no further discussion on the topic

That’s a great tactic. Make lots of noise. Attack. Then, when called on your tactics, you say you just want to talk issues. The funny part is, is that most of the criticism of the Tea Partiers is NOT the issues, it’s their tactics. In fact, this thread is all about a group formed to subvert the TPers to draw attention to their more radical elements. Look, if all these people did was sit around and talk about the issues, no one would know what the hell the Tea Party is. As a matter of fact there are zillions of conservative think tanks out there doing that. What the Tea Party Movement is doing that is different is swooping in a time when there is economic unrest, tapping into the anger and exploiting it for political gain. And as Nightgaunt said, it has built so much momentum so fast by changing from a grassroots group to an astroturfing group. (If it even was grassroots in the first place—I’m not being snarky—There are serious concerns that it NEVER was grassroots) ASTROTURFING EXPLAINED---political, advertising, or public relations campaigns that are formally planned by an organization, but designed to mask its origins to create the impression of being spontaneous, popular "grassroots" behavior. The term refers to AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to look like natural grass. You see those commercials with down home-y people, in a faded pair of Wranglers (Levis are too fancy) in the middle of a cornfield and a concerned yet warm look on their face “I don’t know much about nuthin, but when I hear Congress say they want to tax these widdle mom and pop bidnesses like ADM and Aetna and change the laws so that MI, the only state in the country that prevents you from suing big Pharma companies for putting out drugs they know may kill people, I jus' think, Aw Shucks the last thing we need now is more taxes and more lawsuits. If you like Puppies and lollipops more than taxes and lawsuits, please call your Congressperson or Senator and tell em to vote NO” Paid for by People that like Puppies more than Taxes and Lawsuits (a wholly owned subsidiary of Pfizer, ADM and Aetna) Here's another definition of Astroturfing---Tea Party brought to you by FreedomWorks The Tea Party movement has been supported physically and financially since its inception by a FreedomWorks, a conservative group that wants to put in power GOPers that Subscribe to these philosophical tenants: Fundamental Tax Reform to scrap the federal tax code and institute a flat tax; Dismantle guaranteed benefits of Social Security and replace it with large Personal Retirement Accounts (PRAs) dependent on the market—how’s that been going lately ; Tort Reform to end lawsuits against doctors and corporations; School Choice which takes away money from already starving public schools and gives some people vouchers that don’t fully cover private school; Push for pro-growth regulatory and trade policy changes---ie DE-regulation; and Welfare Reform to throw people off the rolls FreedomWorks is run by Dick Armey, former US rep of Texas, FOB (Friend of Bush), and one of the Architects of the “Republican Revolution” in the early 90s when they took a majority in Congress. He helped form the Contract With America with his buddy Newt Gingrich, another huge supporter of the Tea Partiers Note even the new mantra--Contract FROM America is almost identically named He’s ALSO been investigated for sexual harassment after grabbing all his female staffers, and subsequently had a nailbiter of a re-election against upstart Steve Largent. That same year, Gingrich was forced to resign from the House after heavy Republican losses in the midterm elections. So now the big hitters from the early 90s that were thrown out of office in the late 90s as the American public decided they’d rather Clinton screw the intern, then risk the GOP screwing the rest of us, ARE COMING BACK!!!. THIS IS THEIR COMEBACK Contract with America Part Deux. "THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL! That's why we used the word FROM" A grassroots revolution completely backed, organized, and funded by the same people, natch the SAME Republicans, who lost favor a decade ago for the same ideas they’re shoveling now as leaders and backers of the Tea Party Movement. This maneuvering has been done for generations, but rarely as effectively as they’ve done it. The timing is right. A few good "market conditions" for a Tea party. ---Unemployment is high ---The Democrats and the moderate Republicans supported a bailout of the corporations (which IMHO would have been acceptable IF moronic wall street heavy-hitters like Bush’s Treasury Sec’y Henry Paulson and Obama’s Timothy Geitner actually had the balls to put restrictions and conditions on the money. Oh that's right. All the CEOs are Geitner and Paulson's best friends---Well we don't want to piss off our golfing buddies do we) ---And the Tea Partiers are taking astroturfing one step further, having a 24-hour network backing and watching their move. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t remember reading about NBC sponsoring the 60s civil rights movement-- as FTPNN does(Fox Tea Party News Network). Maybe I missed the part in history class where Walter Cronkite declared that the hippie movement was the most important action for the people since Jesus walked the earth, and told everyone to follow his twitter which gave a running update for every time Allen Ginsberg got a blowjob. AND the BEST part--- The Fox Tea Party News Network doesn’t trouble itself with correct information. ONLY 2 PERCENT of people that support the TP movement know that Obama lowered their taxes---TWO PERCENT! There WAS one other problem Tea Party man Dick Armey was investigated for. In 2009, FreedomWorks launched a campaign against health care reform proposals, accusing the Obama administration of attempting to "socialize medicine" Apparently, FreedomWorks strategy was to disrupt and shut down the August 2009 town hall congressional meetings on health care reform by “scaring real Americans with increasingly paranoid and kooky lies about health care and then providing a script for how to express that fear.” At many of the town halls Democratic "members of Congress have been shouted down, hanged in effigy and taunted by crowds" in an apparent organized effort to rattle the congresspeople presiding over the meetings rather than to seek a compromise solution to health care reform. Oh, and did I fail to mention that Dick Armey, ---key man in the GOP in the 90s and beyond, ---a primary architect of the GOPs Contract With America, ---founder of FreedomWorks --one of the main organizations backing this “spontaneous, grassroots” movement is ALSO a senior policy adviser for DC-based lobbying firm DLA Piper, whose recent and/or current clients include "pharmaceutical maker Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, ... health care provider Metropolitan Health Networks, AND the pharmaceutical firm Medicines Company," ALL entities that might have benefitted financially from seeing health care reform defeated. Dick Armey's concurrent posts with both FreedomWorks and DLA Piper became particularly controversial in light of the $1.3 MILLION DLA Piper received in 2009 from the pharmaceutical company Medicines Co. In fact the American Council of Life Insurers, paid DLA Piper $100,000 shortly before, FreedomWorks in a “spontaneous, grassroots effort” lobbied to deregulate life insurance. Which brings me to MY main issue with the Tea Party Movement. No, it’s not the fact that it’s funded by the right wing machine. No, it’s not the fact that it’s being used to lobby to defeat regulation that would lead to kickbacks to an elite number of its supporters. No, it’s not the fact that it’s spreading misinformation and lies through its literature and its biggest mouthpiece, The Fox Tea Party News Network. No, it’s not even the fact that it’s a naked power grab for the people who were kicked off their pedestal 10 years ago in an attempt to retain their (and the GOPs) former glory It’s the fact that despite Gaf saying that the naysayers are unwilling to engage in debate and discussion, that is EXACTLY what the Tea Party members have been doing over the past year. Their takeover of town hall meetings where well-meaning politicians WANTED to have a discussion is despicable. They prevented any meaningful discourse on the subject in their effort to obliterate and defeat it. The racism and ignorance that they have tacitly allowed to flourish is disgusting. Nightgaunt and I can debate whether some of the incidents in question above happened. (Which is fine. He's been the most reasonable, balanced person to talk yet) BUT, It is NOT in question: ----That a Tea Partier threatened KKK-like actions against a Jewish Congressman representing a Black district in Tennessee And in case not everyone is up on their Klan history, they lynched Jews back in the day too! -----That Bart Stupak and several other Democrats have received death threats as a result of their support of the Health Care bill -----That members of Representative Anthony Weiner’s office staff have had a stream of hostile encounters with tea partiers roaming the halls of Congress. In addition to mockery, protestors left a couple of notes behind. One letter asked what Rahm Emanuel did with Weiner in the shower, in a reference to the mess around ex-Rep Eric Massa. It was signed with a swastika. The other note called the congressman “Schlomo Weiner,” among other hate-filled words -----A tea party participant published what he thought was Rep. Thomas Perriello’s home address and urged disgruntled voters to “drop by” for a “good face-to-face chat.” (It was his brother's house) -----Rep. Louise Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, had office windows smashed in and a caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the children of the members who voted yes.” AND ON AND ON AND ON WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING Some Tea party organizers have stated that they look to leftist radical Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals for inspiration. Protesters have also appropriated left-wing imagery; the logo for the 9/12 March on Washington featured a raised fist design that was intended to resemble those used by pro-labor, anti-war, and black power movements of the 1960s. In addition, the slogan "Keep Your Laws Off My Body", usually associated with pro-choice activists, has been seen on signs at tea parties. This movement is employing the same wild thuggish tactics that the anarchists endured constant ridicule for on The Fox Tea Party News Network, when they used to stage protests at the WTO summits in the 00. Gaf, can you, with a straight face say that you are all for dialogue, when the Tea Party Patriots web site circulated a memo instructing its members to "Pack the hall. Yell out and challenge the Rep’s statements early. Get him off his prepared script and agenda. Stand up and shout and sit right back down." The memo continued, "The Rep should be made to feel that a majority, and if not, a significant portion of at least the audience, opposes the socialist agenda of Washington." To say one thing and have a movement that in its actions does the complete opposite, and takes protest to a new level of thuggery is disingenuous at best, and outright abhorrent at worst. 1. Teabagging. Since it bothers all of you so much, I won't say it again outside the sexuality forum, but the simple fact is, many of the people in the movement PROUDLY called themselves teabaggers, had signs talking about teabagging, and wear paraphenalia with teabags on them. This isn't a case of calling a Black person a n*gg$#. They were teabagging and proud! It was only after so many people pointed out that Kyle sucking Cartman's balls was ALSO teabagging, that they withdrew from it entirely. In fact, one of the first recorded tea party actions was on January 19, 2009, when Graham Makohoniuk, a part-time trader and a member of Ticker Forum, posted a casual invitation on the market-ticker.org forums to "Mail a tea bag to congress and to senate". The idea quickly caught on with others on the forum, some of whom reported being attracted to the inexpensive, easy way to reach "everyone that voted for the bailout." 2. TA'S need to Debate the Tea Party--the "real focus" of this thread Hey guess what? This thread was about a new group infiltrating the Tea Partiers to highlight how extreme their tactics are. And my post was about, um , well, highlighting how extreme their tactics are So, in actuality, I WAS staying on topic when I made my original post, and I DO think that if we let them act as they have, they will splinter the Grand Old Party (because don't fool yourselves here, this is almost an entirely Republican group) and the independents will be turned off from their ways. --------------- And yet Gaf brings up a good point. How can anyone outside the party faithful, let alone a large percentage of Americans support a group that acts as the Tea Party Movement does? How can Americans feel this way? Because they’re angry. Because they’re angry at Bush (who is amazingly absent in the protests over runaway spending despite presiding over the fattest govt ---In contrast Clinton shrank the size of govt while in office) Because they’re angry at the giveaways to banks and other financial firms Because they’re out of work. Because they want things better. And they voted for Obama because they wanted change. And he did next to nothing. He didn’t act swiftly as promised. He was so obsessed with bi-partisanship on Health Care Reform, so obsessed to get that one senator, one congressperson, that he negotiated and waited and waited for compromise on the other end. He was so nervous about gridlock that he signed an economic stimulus package that had needless crap thrown in, much of it from some of his party members He was so afraid about pissing off the financial community that was going to deliver his recovery, (and IMHO is finally starting to happen) that he didn’t put any constraints on any of the people he was giving all of our money to. Except the auto industry, which I can say is also starting to turn around as well. Last month was a good one for the industry---even for Toyota. People want decisive action. They want things to happen. The same American majority that the GOP and the Tea Partiers want you to believe hated "Obamacare" like it once they're told what it does. The same American majority that the GOP and the Tea Partiers want you to believe hates big govt demands better govt oversight of the financial industry. And they're not afraid of taxing the rich. I'm sorry I can't buy into that theory that "we can't tax job creators!" Because, as of late, they have not been job creators. They have been wasteful, risk-taking job reducers, who stuff their pockets with fat bonuses while denying a record number of loans and shipping jobs overseas. And Paulson and Geitner convinced Bush and Obama to write them blank checks. And that pisses me off. It pisses everyone off. But we don't need a Tea Party. We don't need to look out for the people who make so much money, that they comfortably live on their INVESTMENT income, which in poor people's speak, is the big wads of cash that is so much more than what they need that they gamble the extra money from their paychecks on Dow Jones which makes them even more money--enough to live on without even touching the $$$ they get from their job. INVESTMENTS-----It's a second job they never have to spend a second working at. Yeah, a little extra taxing on the fat cats is not going to kill them. I sure won't lose sleep. But any extra expenses WILL kill many of us. That's why I'm happy to recieve the Obama tax cuts that only 2& of Tea partiers know about. That's why I'm happy that health care will be provided, so our emergency rooms are not clogged up, and that people's ailments will be detected early so major diseases will be prevented. And that's why I'm hoping that as the Tea Partiers continue to make uglier and more egregious displays of indecency, that Obama will continue this new decisiveness and when November comes, the people that are fed up with where this country has been going will see the difference between change and blind rage.

Are you fucking kidding me? HERES ONE ARTICLE Tea Party Protests: 'Ni**er,' 'Fa**ot' Shouted At Members Of Congress Preceding the president's speech to a gathering of House Democrats, thousands of protesters descended around the Capitol to protest the passage of health care reform. The gathering quickly turned into abusive heckling, as members of Congress passing through Longworth House office building were subjected to epithets and even mild physical abuse. A staffer for Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told reporters that Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) had been spat on by a protester. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a hero of the civil rights movement, was called a 'ni--er.' And Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) was called a "faggot," as protesters shouted at him with deliberately lisp-y screams. Frank, approached in the halls after the president's speech, shrugged off the incident. But Clyburn was downright incredulous, saying he had not witnessed such treatment since he was leading civil rights protests in South Carolina in the 1960s. "It was absolutely shocking to me," Clyburn said, in response to a question from the Huffington Post. "Last Monday, this past Monday, I stayed home to meet on the campus of Claflin University where fifty years ago as of last Monday... I led the first demonstrations in South Carolina, the sit ins... And quite frankly I heard some things today I have not heard since that day. I heard people saying things that I have not heard since March 15, 1960 when I was marching to try and get off the back of the bus." "It doesn't make me nervous as all," the congressman said, when asked how the mob-like atmosphere made him feel. "In fact, as I said to one heckler, I am the hardest person in the world to intimidate, so they better go somewhere else." Asked if he wanted an apology from the group of Republican lawmakers who had addressed the crowd and, in many ways, played on their worst fears of health care legislation, the Democratic Party, and the president, Clyburn replied: Story continues below "A lot of us have been saying for a long time that much of this, much of this is not about health care a all. And I think a lot of those people today demonstrated that this is not about health care... it is about trying to extend a basic fundamental right to people who are less powerful." UPDATE 6:55 PM ET: Rep. Emanuel Cleaver's office released the following statement: For many of the members of the CBC, like John Lewis and Emanuel Cleaver who worked in the civil rights movement, and for Mr. Frank who has struggled in the cause of equality, this is not the first time they have been spit on during turbulent times. This afternoon, the Congressman was walking into the Capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The Congressman would like to thank the US Capitol Police officer who quickly escorted the others Members and him into the Capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care. After all the Members were safe, a full report was taken and the matter was handled by the US Capitol Police. The man who spat on the Congressman was arrested, but the Congressman has chosen not to press charges. He has left the matter with the Capitol Police. This is not the first time the Congressman has been called the "n" word and certainly not the worst assault he has endured in his years fighting for equal rights for all Americans. That being said, he is disappointed that in the 21st century our national discourse has devolved to the point of name calling and spitting. He looks forward to taking a historic vote on health care reform legislation tomorrow, for the residents of the Fifth District of Missouri and for all Americans. He believes deeply that tomorrow's vote is, in fact, a vote for equality and to secure health care as a right for all. Our nation has a history of struggling each time we expand rights. Today's protests are no different, but the Congressman believes this is worth fighting for. UPDATE 7:48 PM ET: The Buffalo News reports that Rep. Louise Slaughter's district office in Pine View, New York, was vandalized on Saturday. Sometime early this morning, someone threw a brick through the front window of her Pine Avenue office. The damage was discovered about 12:30 a.m., city police said. The brick put a hole in the outer-most window at the office at 1910 Pine Ave., but did not damage a second interior window, police reported. A piece of broken brick believed to have caused the damage was found at the scene. Damage was estimated at $350. UPDATE 8:57 PM ET: The Associated Press reports that Capitol Police arrested the man who spit on Cleaver, but the Congressman won't press charges. AND ANOTHER Although the Tea Party is not really a party, members have garnered attention. Mostly conservative, some consider it a splinter group off the Republican Party. None of their candidates were able to unseat incumbents in the last Texas primary, but they are still making their presence known. Many in the movement have tried to distance themselves from the extremists, according to Kenneth Vogel of Politico. “The condemnations mark a more forceful response and indicate a keen awareness of the damage that being linked to them could do to the tea party brand,” Vogel said. Not all threats are being linked to Tea Party members, although many Tea Partiers were outside the Capital when racial slurs and insults were yelled towards Congressmen entering the building. Right after the House vote there was a threat against President Barack Obama made on Twitter. The FBI is currently investigating this threat and other threats made against Congresspersons who voted in favor of the bill. Windows were shattered at Democratic offices in New York, Arizona and Kansas. A brick was thrown through the window of the Democratic Party office in Rochester, New York. A Tea Party member is being accused of posting the address of Representative Tom Perriello’s brother online. A gas pipe was cut at the brothers house and there may have been a letter sent to the brother’s house. In Missouri a coffin was placed on the front lawn of Representative Russ Carnahan. Bart Stupak has received many messages including death threats. The FBI is investigating these threats along with the threats made against and Rules Committee Chairwoman Louise Slaughter. There was a message left for her saying that snipers were being deployed to kill the children of those who voted for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Adam Brandon, a spokesman for FreedomWorks, says this can be problematic for the Tea Party movement, whether or not they made the threats. “If the movement gets tattooed as at all sympathetic to those (racist and homophobic) views, I won’t want to be involved in it anymore,” Brandon said. “It’s very distracting not only to our side but also to the debate and the country.” AND ANOTHER The backlash: Reform turns personal March 24, 2010 04:51 AM EDT Reps. Louise Slaughter and Bart Stupak have received death threats. A tea party participant published what he thought was Rep. Thomas Perriello’s home address and urged disgruntled voters to “drop by” for a “good face-to-face chat.” Vandals broke windows at Slaughter’s office in New York and Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’s office in Arizona. And angry voters are planning to protest this weekend at the home of Steve Driehaus — who’s already seen a photograph of his children used in a newspaper ad published by reform opponents. The vitriolic health care debate has become personal — too personal, say House Democrats who voted for the bill and now find not just themselves but their families in the cross hairs of opponents. Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in upstate New York. Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll get you.” “My wife still can’t answer the phone,” Stupak told POLITICO on Tuesday. The messages are “full of obscenities if she leaves it plugged in. In my office, we can’t get a phone out. It’s just bombarded.” Stupak, a former police officer, said he’s not fazed by the threats or by the prospect of protests at his district office this weekend. “I’ve looked down barrels of guns,” he said. “I’ve talked my way out of it.” But Democrats said their political opponents go too far when they bring members’ families into the fray. Driehaus, a Democrat from Ohio, was outraged last week when a group called the Committee to Rethink Reform used a photo of him and his two young daughters in a newspaper ad urging him to vote against any health care reform bill that included federal funding for abortion. Both the group and the newspaper — the Cincinnati Enquirer — apologized for including Driehaus’s daughters in the ad. “I’m very protective of my family, like most of us,” Driehaus said Tuesday. “There is no reason for my wife and kids to be brought into any of this. If people want to talk to me, if people want to approach me about an issue, I’m more than happy to talk about the issue, regardless of what side they’re on. But I do believe when you bring in a member’s family, that you’ve gone way too far.” Driehaus faults Republicans for providing encouragement to the most extreme opponents of reform. Last week, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) warned that anti-abortion Democrats would suffer politically if they voted for the health care bill; he singled out Driehaus, saying he “may be a dead man” and “can’t go home to the west side of Cincinnati” because “the Catholics will run him out of town.” “Mr. Boehner made comments about me and my predicament when I go home which I felt were wildly out of bounds for his position and very irresponsible, quite frankly. He’s from next door. That’s not helpful. That’s irresponsible,” Driehaus said. Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said, “The leader does not condone violence, and his remark was obviously not meant to be taken literally. He is urging Americans to take the anger they’re feeling and focus it on building a new majority that will listen to the people.” No one condones death threats against members or their families, but not everyone is apologetic about taking complaints about health care reform straight to the homes of members. Mike Troxel, an organizer for the Lynchburg Tea Party, posted what he believed to be Perriello’s home address on his blog this week, sarcastically urging other tea partiers to stop by and “say hi and express their thanks regarding his vote for health care.” The address turned out to be the home of Perriello’s brother — who has four children — but Troxel told POLITICO he didn’t intend to remove it from his blog. “If they would like to provide me with the address of Tom, then I’d be more than happy to take it down,” he said. “I have no reason to believe it’s not his house.” A fellow tea party blogger said he thought it was fine for Troxel to post Perriello’s home address. “They have our home addresses,” said Kurt Feigel, who complained that protesters had little choice but to go to Perriello’s home because Perriello’s office doesn’t “respond to e-mail; they don’t respond to letters; they don’t respond to us showing up at his office. So what am I going to do?” Perriello said his family doesn’t want him to be afraid. But when asked if he was scared anyway, the Virginia Democrat replied: “Whatever.” “I’ve lived in Sierra Leone for two years, where the life expectancy is 34 years old. If the worst thing that happens is that special-interest groups spend millions of dollars against me and my most ardent opponents organize against me, it’s hardly a ‘cry me a river’ moment — as long as people act civil and within the law.” Others are less sanguine. C.J. Karamargin, a spokesman for Giffords, said staffers in the Democrat’s district office were “a little bit shaken” Monday when they arrived at work to find the glass front door shattered and covered in plywood. Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-N.D.) said he had to change his personal cell phone number after a Republican gave it out to health care opponents. And Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Blue Dog Democrat from California, said he’s gotten physical threats over health care reform. “There are some folks that identified themselves as being members of the tea party [who] called, [and] my staff has gotten to know their names over time, and they have been very loud and very ugly,” Cardoza said. With the House vote behind them, Democrats hope to show voters that health care reform won’t wreak the devastation opponents predict — and that tempers will cool as a result. Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) said he’s already getting 95 percent fewer calls since Sunday’s vote. “The real problem is the people who are calling and talking about a revolution and overthrowing government,” he said. “They can be angry. We’re all for that. But when they talk about taking over the government, the leadership has to do its part to stop that.” AND ANOTHER U.S. Rep. Steve Cohen’s office will contact federal law enforcement authorities about a threat the campaign received through its Web site Monday night, a Cohen spokesman said. The e-mail, which was labeled “Your TV comment” and sent from someone who claimed tea party affiliation, was sent via the contact form on the Cohen for Congress Web site, said spokesman Rick Maynard. Laced with expletives, the e-mail said, in part, “... If our tea parties had hoods, we would burn your ass on a cross on the White House front lawn.” This holds particular relevance because Rep. Cohen is Jewish and Jews were once a main target of the KKK. --------------------- COTN--Don't you dare say there are no racists in the GOP. You have a tea partier threatening to string up a Jew and lynch him. BUT OF COURSE THIS ISNT RACIST AT ALL OR THIS OR THIS WELL OKAY BUT AT LEAST THE TEABAGGERS DON'T MAKE OPEN THREATS Quick note to COTN and Gaf COTN--Personally you're good people and COTN, you're the knda guy everyone likes, but I think with all the right wing talk you listen to and read, you can't see flaws among your ranks blatantly present. Gaf--I don't represent most people, nor did I claim to, but using inflated numbers doesn't mean everyone is sitting at home wishing Reagan would rise from the dead and minimizing and denying the hatemongeing doesn't mean it's not there. The majority, NOT ALL, but a majority of the people elected Obama for a reason. I'm sorry you can't see that.

I agree. They can't beat a group that's already beating themselves. I don't like this new group. I don't like the "Everybody hold hands and talk" mantra of the coffee party, because I think it'll lead even less action than we have already. I think it's best for the teabaggers to get bigger and splinter the GOP, so the democrats can win in November. As much as Gaf wants to talk about the one attack on a conservative (as the only real substantiated threat) and the one Black man with a gun protesting Obama and the one this and the one that it's becoming clear that they are exceptions to the rule. The teabaggers and its view of radical and racist depictions of Obama are like the Vaticans view of pedophilic priests. ---Feign outrage and disdain for those viewpoints while ---attacking the other side for their nerve in "whining" about "alleged" death threats and "alleged" racist and ignorant protest signs and slogans despite there being video footage of it. ---And covering up for the fact that there is a sizable minority of angry white males (and females) that can't stand that an intelligent black man is President. Meanwhile the mainstream of the teabagging party, while not openly racist or lacking the grammatical skills of a 4 year old are still so rabid and unpredictable that they will prove to turn off the moderates and independents and split the Republicans, so no matter how hard the Dems try, they still won't lose control of Congress. Besides, no matter how much teabaggers like to claim they speak for the American people, by and large...they don't.

Wow! It wasn't enough to just call out a specific "bigger" person in another thread, and tell her she's unattractive, we gotta go after all of them now? Look, I don't expect others to pour over the words like I sometimes do, but do you just type out every rude thing that pops into your head? (To catch people up to speed, he was last seen courageously attacking cancer patients in the Walmart thread under the name Sluagh666) ------------- Hunhee wore them to CC, and I thought she looked nice.

He reached for revolution but too lazy for action, found decomposed---utterly insignificant.

The shocking part is they dance to it and not genuine classic gothic club anthems. Oh well. How about this?

Like I took a break from the board. It was good. I feel 100% extricated from drama. That or I just don't care. I feel once again free to f*ck up my life all of my own accord, which I'm doing a good job of by staying up and ruining tomorow's productivity. I feel like I did another longass post that took too long to post and edit and probably didn't help anyone. I don't think anyone writes as slowly as me. It's just not possible. I feel like dreampop and triphop I feel like like mid 80s Cocteau Twins is so amazing Why the hell didnt I go to sleep 4 hours ago as planned???!!! I'm so stupid sometimes Mega hugs

Happy Birthday!

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I kept these quotes in because they were short and made good points---two things I'm not often known for. BUT First things first--- I have no idea why no one's addressing the property tax/utility issue for you. I haven't heard that much about utility rate variance, but keep in mind ---older home = higher utility bills so the price of utilities may vary more depending on which house you buy, regardless of locale PLUS you may have to pay for upgrading from fuses to breakers which can cost $10k+ I know shit about property taxes That said the crime thing is pretty easy. CRIME Oakland County is the richest/safest county in MI and Wayne County is the poorest with the highest crime. You do the math. WITHIN Oakland County You probably would not want to live too high north anyway but Pontiac is a sinkhole. The Silverdome sale was quite possibly the worst property deal since the Indians sold Manhattan for $24 It sold for 98% off the original purchase price!!!!! That's a pretty good example for the state of affairs up there. The only thing going for it was Arts, Beats, and Eats festival. Which moved to ...Royal Oak. Royal Oak is also home to half the good restaurants. And the best art house movie theatre And the new Sonic. And the still in development combination bar/bowling alley/multiplex And MOST IMPORTANTLY, the state of Michigan's largest penis. (People drive from miles around to see it--Look how busy that road is) So if you find anything in Royal Oak or its little kid brother, Clawson, check it out. Same thing goes for Berkley. If Royal Oak is the rich uptown art student, Berkley is his one uncle that everyone loves, that has his door open for people to just drop in and hang out. One thing in common with all of these places---they are ALL north of I-696. If you're concerned with safety, staying north of I-696 is a good bet. (Madison Heights is north of the highway too) SUBURBS THAT STRADDLE I-696---- Southfield, Lathrup Village and that little part of Oak Park north of I-696 is fine. Southfield is the most disparate. North-of-696 Southfield, which borders Franklin, Beverly Hills, Royal Oak, and Berkley, is very suburban. South of I-696 is kinda ghetto, esp. down by Northland Mall. (The one upside---You'll be right by stripper row, where there's more places for you to have "pie" thrust in your face than to have pie served with coffee and a napkin. Oak Park is pretty bad too. Kind of an extension of Detroit. The one exception of the stay north of I-696 rule---Ferndale. If Hazeltucky is the Appalachian, one toothed cousin of Detroit, Ferndale is its Fabulicious transplant from San Francisco. It's hip, it's fun, it's "urbane not urban" and it's got better shoes than you. But, as Tygerlili said, depending on where you live, it can be a little too close to Detroit for comfort. COMFORT The other thing about Ferndale is that it feels like an inner suburb. You KNOW there are things going on nearby. There's a city right next door. That can be really cool, It can make you feel more alive and part of a metro area Or as in her case it can be a drag. On the opposite end of the spectrum, the northern part of Southfield, Royal Oak, Clawson, Lathrup Village, Berkley, and to a lesser extent Mad Heights feel suburban. Which can get a bit tedious and boring That said, ALL are close to I-75 AND I-696 which means quick easy access to wherever you work, and of course City Club. WESTERN SUBURBS Even if places like Canton, Northville, and the best of the bunch Novi, aren't that far away, they sure feel it. They feel like exurbs, like they wanted to be in Oakland County but can't stand Detroit. I can see why Tyger likes it so much (and how cool is it to have the best Metropark in the stat right in your backyard!) but for me, it would just feel wayyy too detached from the city. I love having the zoo, and the festivals, and City Club within reach, and the only thing within reach in Novi-besides Kensington Metropark- is Livingston County which is like a 600-square mile Redneck rodeo (AND HOME TO MANFAST!) NORTH SUBURBS Just north of Royal Oak is Troy Just north of Warren (which is like Hazeltucky without the Hank Williams records) is Sterling Heights. Both are nice places. Troy is really nice and really safe but may be too expensive. If you haven't considered it, check out Sterling Heights. It's nice and, since it's in Macomb County, much more reasonably priced. For an even better deal, consider the north end of Warren 13/14 mile that borders Royal Oak, Troy, and Sterling Heights. Never be totally afraid of the name of the city. ALWAYS look at what's near it. There's often the chance for a good deal when you have a safe area bordering a really nice town but located in a less desirable zip code (the nicer west end of Hazel Park bordering Ferndale, north end of Southfield bordering Beverly Hills, etc) I hope this helps. I painted with a VERY broad brush. And I'm sure, I've been a little unfair to some of the suburbs in the process. If I was looking right now, I'd be lucky to qualify for a crackhouse in Highland Park. But I have high standards for you, and I hope you get a great place! If all these searches fail you, may I suggest a lovely piece of real estate on the Lake, in good view of your dinghy at the Gross Pointe Yacht Club. Bolton-Johnston Assoc. of G.P. has just REDUCED the price to a paltry $4 million I think you and Buffy would look smashing here----

Well first of all, I was just expanding on Raev's list, but point taken that you're all that and a box of matza! You cook, you clean... you kill! You even cook and clean your kill. That's a SEXY combination! Ladies may be intimidated by the kilt. they're thinking---Does he have that much manhood that it cannot be contained by the power of pleather pants? Now don't let this go to your head. You're not as sexy as THESE guys. That's okay, though. NOBODY is. AND YET somehow I know you're being way too modest. I seem to remember the pop up trailer a-rockin and bean and I not come a-knockin. (Good edit but you also spelled facepalm as faceplam That's a faceplam facepalm! ) Oh I fixed your egregious omission now. It was an injustice that could not stand. I organized a few marches, had a sit-in, and the DGN g-ds ruled they would no longer prohibit G-desses in all their forms from being in the running. You are now one of the elite. I even put in deathfearsnone so you're not alone. But I feel your pain sister. If I don't get asked to the DGN popularity dance, bean may go alone! Or with some stupid prick! And I bought a white rose boutonnière and everything! Not that it matters. I already knows who's going to win. He's young. He's cute. He's nocturnal. And he has the best head of hair this side of Stryper. DAMN YOU CLOVER!!! DAMN YOU AND YOUR PERFECTLY FROSTED HAIR!!!

ME! (Of course I've just narrowed the opposite sex to one person, but still)