Destroit

Anyone thinking about stopping out should PM me for the address.

Thriller is all you need .

Glad the move went safely. Sorry I didn't get to make it out to Algonac again, have been so busy. Don't forget about us over here. I'm sure you'll be back periodically because your folks are still here, yes?

Changed the thread title to be more inclusive to everything because that is where the thread seems to be going.

A phrase created by people on the internet with too much time on their hands, apparently (i.e. see 4chan). I had to go look it up. Will say it's funny that we now have a term for white/Japanese culture-crossing much like wigger for white/black culture-crossing. I hereby coin the term watino for any white people out there who love tequila and are aching for a burrito right now (much like myself) . I also declare myself half watino...

Hetalia FTW And I am not only half weaboo, but I am south of 9 Mile and in Warren so I am also half wigger, along with half rivethead, half man, half bear, and half pig. I've never understood why people can't sample other cultures and all that jazz without people looking down on them for it, too afraid to do it themselves? Diversity is better than everyone having to fulfill a preconceived stereotype set by others . As long as you're picking your tastes because you genuinely love them and not to try to fit in somewhere, I don't see the problem. I have too much going on this year to attend Youmacon. I'd need more time to prepare cosplay shit and all that. I've got so many ideas but haven't had time to do it with all the catching up that's been going on in my life lately

WB

It was the worst selling game of all time, so bad that Atari was forced to bury 5 million unsold copies of it in the New Mexico desert because they didn't know what else to do .

A little restrained...

Letting Pestilence buy a pair of Smith and Wesson handcuffs because now I am cuffed.

Gawth...?

Sifl & Olly And while I'm on MTV, how about the days when they actually played music videos?

Wtf! You are not supposed to think, only gaze into our futures so you can tell us what tomorrow holds! Now, what is my day off going to behold? I demand answers *angry fist shake*.

I'd still support sugary cereal before pop due to the fact that even the sugary shit is STILL fortified with a giant amount of vitamins and minerals. That said, even though I still think it is more appropriate then pop, don't want that crap being paid for with my paycheck.

Responsiblity means saving enough money ahead of time to get yourself through six months financially. Alsooo...I said "cash assistance". What you're talking about is unemployement, which I'm not against (if you were working in the first place, clearly you're just struggling, not a mooch), especially because as much as the six month thing is nice, many people don't have the self-control to follow through with it and their children shouldn't have to suffer while that person looks for new employment. Cash assistance, basically, means I was irresponsible, got knocked up not having a job to begin with, birthed a kid not knowing what I was going to do to take care of it, and then holding my palm out to the rest of society to take care of the child I perhaps should have planned much better. So as to make sure however that the money is spent on things that are absolutely one-hundred-percent necessity, both unemployment and cash assistance should be regulated by the government, imo. They should pay your rent (directly, instead of handing you cold hard cash), utilities, food and other absolute necessities. This would cut down on people taking cash assistance or unemployement and blowing it on wants instead of needs.

Nope, I had a Bridge Card for three years when Pestilence and I were struggling to keep our shitty condo roof over our heads. I still believe it should be heavily regulated. If you are stealing free money, you should have NO rights to what that money is spent on. You don't like it? Don't take it.

I agree that things such as this are bullshit. For instance, the word "retarded". Back in the day people would say retard as an insult, and many still do. In order to remedy the problem we started using "mentally challenged". What is this going to do? Make the phrase "mentally challenged" an insult over time because people like to make fun of people who are not deemed intelligent. Not all of us do, but many are in that boat. Changing the phrase is not solving anything. There is honestly no real way to solve this, imo, except raising your children to realize that it's wrong to do so. But as long as we have mentally challenged people on this Earth, they WILL be made fun of by others with self-esteem issues no matter what it is they are called.

Yeah the reason I stopped emphasizing as much on the aesthetics of weight and more on the health itself is because many people's values of aesthetics are different, especially depending on the culture. Case in point: I honestly TRUELY believe myself to look like a fat nasty slob. I'm 40 lbs overweight. I am the FATTEST person in my family by a LOT. I was made fun of my whole life by family members and friends, to which I am GLAD about because if I was told "oh it's not about your weight" or "ohh, how you look on the outside doesn't matter to anyone, it's what's inside that counts (because we ALL know the rest of society thinks that way ) I would have never lost my weight. As a matter of fact if people would have even sat me down and talked to me like Glory talks to her daughter...I am such a hardass I STILL would not have gotten it. It took total brutality and meanness to facilitate change, and I realize that not everyone is like this, some people will have the OPPOSITE reaction and actually get bigger and feel less motivated if people are mean to them about it. It all goes on the individual. As a society, most people believe that an hour-glass figure is aesthetically pleasing as opposed to an obese figure, pear-shaped figure, apple-shaped figure, or a boyish figure. As harsh as it is, there are only a handful of people who prefer bigger people to skinny people (case in point: I have met thousands of people in my life, easily, and only three I know of EVER in my life prefer bigger to thinner). There are evolutionary reasons behind this, most males are hardwired to want a female who is healthy and will bare healthy offspring. Even if you are a male who does not desire children, your inner-wiring will most likely find these types of females as beautiful whereas obese females will not be deemed beautiful in your eyes. The reason we find thin people aesthetically pleasing and, as mean as it sounds, bigger people as "disgusting" or "sloppy" is because it is a reflection of our INNER health, inner strength (i.e. the ability to have self-control which may play out in other areas of life such as fidelity, drugs, hobbies, impulse spending, etc), and how we feel about ourselves. Females tend to want men who aren't necessarily HUGELY muscular, but show some muscle, show tone, etc. Some prefer huge muscles, some prefer smaller muscles, etc. In the cave days muscles were OUR protection for us and our children. If you had a man who was fat and not in shape...your life was in DANGER. Even though that system is not necessarily in play today so heavily in modern societies, we still have that evolutionary hardwiring to desire males who are at least fit and not fat. Being politically correct and trying to make everyone happy has skewed our views and instincts on the matter. While there will always be a small amount of people who desire what is NOT the norm, most are not those people, and having society constantly try to shove "bigger people are pretty on the outside too!" type rhetoric creates inner-conflict among us all. Hence the honesty and why it is so important. Not only do people feel better physically and have physically better health when thin, they are also sexually desired on a much higher level. I've personally noticed that the obesity problem in the past ten years has been very much female-oriented. I have seen it encouraged, however, by fathers, mothers and ESPECIALLY husbands/boyfriends that are too afraid of hurting the feeling of someone they care about. What they don't realize is that sometimes, hurt feelings, or at least honesty, lets the person know that they have clear room for improvement and what they are choosing as their lifestyle is not going to be accepted by most people in society. So men, the next time your lady asks "Does this make my ass look fat?" and you think in your mind 'No...your big ass makes your ass look fat." SAY IT. Be nice, but let her know! As women we're asking BECAUSE we want your honest opinion. If we're just fishing for compliments then, well, we're asking for it imo. By saying "no honey, you look BEAUTIFUL" you are quelling your own desires, what you would REALLY like to say, lying to your SO, and not helping to solve the issue but rather enabling it. With that said...anyone have any other issues to address besides weight? I did list other things in the initial thread, but people started zeroing in on the F word. There's no issues with that, if you feel as though you have an opinion on the overweight/obesity epidemic and the fact that Americans encourage it instead of trying to remedy the problem, that obviously open for discussion. But I would also like to hear opinions on other things such as prejudice, the fact that we are trying to completely deny the fact that humans are naturally aggressive and competitive, how we're able to raise our own children, how OTHERS are (wrongfully) raising their children and we're biting our tongues on it, etc. Let loose!

If it is caused by a side effect of medicine or a legitimate medical condition, that is also one of those exceptions imo.

I like that, very good parenting. A tactful and yet honest way of addressing the issue . I'm tossed about the BBW thing. I guess it's not that I don't want bigger people to feel good about themselves, to me it seems as though many would rather use it as an excuse to not use self control, to be okay instead of maybe striving to get healthy. It's hard to argue that trying to encourage people to have better inner-mechanisms of self-control and discipline is a bad thing, yet so many get so touchy about it. It's to the point where nobody even tries to encourage others anymore, because we're all so scared of hurting anyone's feelings, and is afraid to talk about it openly, if you even bring up anything about weight around some you're automatically labeled as judgmental in a negative way. I am somewhat judgmental, it's called having personal standards, to which other people's will vary here and there. Even with variations, nearly every society has some basic standards that are unified. So in a sense, to an extent, is being judgmental in a constructive way so much of a bad thing? Everyone is so afraid to give advice now, tips, etc, to other people, but some of it is necessary stuff imo and needs to be dealt with.

Fair enough, I should have maybe specified violent crime. And even then, I'm sure there may be some exceptions to that. What I've learned in life is there's almost always an exception to everything.

As I get older I notice less and less is able to be spoken about other people. If you use the word "black" or "African American" to describe a person, you are racist or prejudice. Instead of encouraging others to be fit and healthy for the betterment of our society as a whole, very damaging labels such as "BBW" or "Extra Curvy" have been created to help enable obese people and fooling them into thinking that most people think it is healthy and aesthetically pleasing. The law has taken away a parent's rights to punish their child according to their own cultural traditions or beliefs. We no longer consider a white person killing a minority for reasons OTHER than the fact they are a minority as a normal crime, but have the phrase "hate crime" attached now (when ALL crimes are hate crimes!). We are not ALLOWED to be willingly aggressive with each other. Two people in a bar cannot have a verbal dispute and very honorably "take it outside" anymore, they are forced to bottle it up and "talk it out" (which with MANY people does not work or relieve the stress of the issue). I'm not condoning say, five guys beating up on one other guy because he looks scrawny; I'm talking about a good old-fashioned one-on-one fist fight that is MUTUAL between both parties to "get it all out". We as a country are afraid to actually give anyone else any criticism or to tell others that they are doing something wrong. Everything is now "not our business" or "too mean to say, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings ever!" What happened to the notion that telling people that their behavior is not the best way to go is the right thing to do? This is not necessarily any mores that are law enforced, either. What I mentioned above, obesity, prejudice, aggression, raising children, it's all the tip of the iceburg. There are many other problems in society that everyone is afraid to address because "we don't want to piss anyone else off" while failing to realize that MANY times what gets people motivated or lets them know what they are doing is not the best path IS other people pissing them off about it. What do YOU think? Are we too nicey nice in this country now? Is this nicey-nice rhetoric actually solving anything or is it enabling people with problems to think that their problems are functional and normal? Are there any issues that I have not addressed that you believe we are too hush-hush over? (I'm sure there are plenty) What do you believe we should do about it as a whole? (If anything) Can it be reversed before the entire country turns out like Wall-E or Idiocracy? Where do you believe it stemmed from? Any stories of people like this to share? Just thought of it as an interesting topic to debate. It occured to me last week when I was taking in the bus that I was the thinnest female on the bus by at LEAST fifty pounds...and I am forty pounds over weight. Please be respectful, yet truthful. Do not break the play nice rules debating!

Like I need to leave the library and walk down to the theatre to punch in or I'll be late for work.

Coffee...it's what's for breakfast.

It's so dead in here, emptier than Chernobyl, April 28th, 1986... Anyone hear any good jokes lately?