Destroit

It depends on how they come at you. If you're able to, pressure points are great. Some people are robots however, I discovered this after dating one for five years (whom you all know I am still with), and he has no pressure points. None. So it could backfire. If you can do the shoulder-grab-leg-sweep takedown, it's incredibly effective in getting the upper hand IF they're coming at your correctly. If none of those are possible, then you punch them in the fucking nose as hard as you can. Favorite band of all time? (Everyone already knows mine)

FLA - Dissident

Cyberaktif - Die Coarse Illusion The most epic form of industrial trolling I've ever witnessed . A whole band constructed SHEERLY for trolling Nivek Ogre...genius. That aside, they've got a lot of good shit of course.

I want the gift of industrial. Every year I make up a CD list and get 0 CDs. Plz help one mildly-trashy poverty-stricken Warren resident listen to some scary shit...? <3 There's also books I've been meaning to buy for about...four years now?

I can has your guns?

Anyone else ski or snowboard? I don't want to plan some "official" get together, I already have four of those (two independant, two co-hosting). I just want to glide down a hill really fast standing on some pressed plastic edged with metal. If I pick a date in January, probably the first or second week, anyone think they might be interested? And Pine Knob sucks, it's for little kids. I want to hit up at LEAST Holly, maybe further, but with my budget probably Mt. Holly. I haven't been there since I was 9.

VAC - Serial Killer 101

Timata fails, I already went out and bought it a week ago. For the record, it has both Lady Gaga and Gorillaz, FTW.

Skinny Puppy - Testure

I don't hate him. There are songs I like of his and since I grew up in the 90s the Goblin King does have a special place in my childhood heart. I don't really get what the huge fuss is about though, much like with Nirvana. Personally, I also don't understand how he became appraised more than Gary Numan, who imo is much more talented, was a more original pioneer on the musical map, and well, looks better .

Steinkind - deutschland brennt

I need to get back on the self-expression train. I feel like Devi in "I Feel Sick". I've been working on writing shit for my classes for so long now I don't even know what I think anymore. I went to spill some of MY thoughts on paper last night and couldn't find my book because it's been so long.

Hanzel und Gretyl - SS Deathstar Supergalactik

Beck - Beercan My roommates and I all have this inside theory that Beck is the gateway to everything else (at least according to Pandora or Last.Fm) Hypothetical Example Convo: Tim - "Hey, guess what I found out? If you like Charles Mingus then clearly you like Beck." Me - "Says who?" Tim - "Pandora" Me - "That's funny because according to Pandora, if you listen to Throbbing Gristle, you'll super get into Beck." Tom - "Is that why Beck came up on my death metal station yesterday? Apparently if you are brutal and listen to Dying Fetus, you will probably enjoy the musical stylings of Beck..." Pestilence - "I was starting to wonder how Tech N9ne and Beck were related."

Daft Punk - Aerodynamic Manliest guitar solo in a techno song EVAR.

Hilt - Septic

Haujobb - Metric

Throbbing Gristle - Weeping

Yeah, some cool stuff in there but I was confused for a moment and thought I was reading the playlist for the main room .

Chernobyl: "Only your hair, Raev. And I'm as virgin as THE PURE SNOW, AND KITTENS, AND FLOWERS, AND JESUS LOVESMESTFUGTFO. No, I'm kidding. I take crazy amounts of weiner, for the record." Prick: "LOL you said weiner" Chernobyl: "Yes, [p]Rick, I meant weiner like sausage. And by sausage I meant something edible. And by something edible I meant cock. And by cock I mean chicken. And by chicken I REALLY mean penis. I'm a pretty easy equation to solve." This is what happens when DGN is down for a day.

Eh...goth's disdain for MM comes from the fact that he's a douchebag who is trying to manipulate a subgenre to his will not for artistic merit but for popularity, shock, money, etc. I still say he isn't goth. He does not perform goth rock. He does not wear ANY gothic attire. I think you might be having issues with subtleties here, that's like saying all preppy people are also thugs/wiggers because they both wear color. It's incorrect no matter how you cut it. You can find overt similarities when you compare ANYTHING to do with humanity, because we're ALL human. It's the subtle context that creates the differences, and so no Marilyn Manson is not goth and will most likely never be goth. Ignorant preppy people or preppy kids trying to Hot-Topic-Rebel call him "goth" because, well, they're ignorant and are unable to pick up on minute differences. "Sticking feathers in your ass does not make you a chicken."

Indeed. And so MANFAST was created after to commemorate our victory all those years ago.

^ (What he said lol) How was first wave goth glam and second wave goth disco? Goth is actually considered post-punk for the most part and branched from the punk era. Industrial is a bit different, but we don't get into that one. Like I said to someone on Facebook recently on the subject (who said that goth is ONLY a marketing term and was never a subgenre ): You can call a tomato a potato all you want but in the end, clearly it is not. I may be wrong as I study mostly industrial history, not goth rock, but I do know a thing or two about the subject. Can we get some clarification from someone more qualified? Deadcat, I'm eyeballing you.

Clearly we're talking modern goth. And no, goths were around before this, we invaded the Roman Empire, remember?

DJ M.M. Dan