Yup, twelve years... although I attribute much of that to the fact that I'm living in or around the Appalachian mountains. I have run into a few people that listened to "aggrotech" type music but none of the ever knew what Skinny Puppy was for instance, and at one point I had an employee that listened to KMFDM. And thus I came back here to this forum, I figured it's very unlikely I every meet someone with similar interests to my own, but at least I could go somewhere that I can talk to like minded people... even though I don't live anywhere near Detroit nowadays.