Where we come from...

[Steven]

best known. . .most read. . .popular?!?! i bet those in places like india would have a much different thought on that. maybe christianity has that sort of following here but i think you may be mistaken to say that its global. 

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maybe. but its not just my take. And again.....was using the platform to point toward you know who.

Since we're on the subject of Christian global influence in specific regions, how many of you have heard ofg the 10/40 window?

[Steven]

i think steven picked up on my post, as that's the way i spell it... 

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I type too fast for proper keyboard strokes, my keyboard sticks, I'm lazy, and i never spell check. Xtianity is a shortcut for my lack of skills.

[BrassFusion]

what's the 10/40 window? something about age at which people are most susceptible to finding jesus?

edit: lol, I made it sound like a disease. :grin

[Steven]

I'll see if I can find a link today to post up, but it's basically a "slice" of the planet between the two parallels where Xtian evangilism has not made any headway, where there are peoples who have never even heard of the name Jesus, etc. Its actually a target goal for organized Christendom, their last territory to venture into per se.

Biblically some beleivers think that the end of the world will not come until that goal / territory is reached, based on Jesus' instructions to "preach the good news throughout the entire earth, and then the end will come..." (whole other Oprah)

Anyway - its a regional thing to consider in terms of the reach of Christendom, good or bad.

[BrassFusion]

I'll see if I can find a link today to post up, but it's basically a "slice" of the planet between the two parallels where Xtian evangilism has not made any headway, where there are peoples who have never even heard of the name Jesus, etc.  Its actually a target goal for organized Christendom, their last territory to venture into per se. 

Biblically some beleivers think that the end of the world will not come until that goal / territory is reached, based on Jesus' instructions to "preach the good news throughout the entire earth, and then the end will come..." (whole other Oprah)

Anyway - its a regional thing to consider in terms of the reach of Christendom, good or bad.

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:blink If the evangelism hasn't made any headway, I assume it's because previous generations of the people in those areas were uninterested, not for lack of trying on the part of missionaries... right? They can preach, but they shouldn't hope to convert people in every society. That's more a Muslim thing- the belief that Islam will eventually be the only religion.

[Gauge]

:blink If the evangelism hasn't made any headway, I assume it's because previous generations of the people in those areas were uninterested, not for lack of trying on the part of missionaries... right? They can preach, but they shouldn't hope to convert people in every society. That's more a Muslim thing- the belief that Islam will eventually be the only religion.

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totaly agreed. well said

[torn asunder]

i would have to think that each religion that preaches evangelism and conversion must think they should be the one, true, end-all religion, otherwise why botehr trying to convert people!?

[Gauge]

ive never been one for force fed religion, i just dont get it. why, even if you believe your religion is THE religion would you feel the need to shove it down peoples throats =(

[The_Dark]

My thread is so jacked

[Gauge]

My thread is so jacked

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not jacked. . .we just took your wonderful idea and ran with it :grin

[torn asunder]

A little over 3 Million years ago our Solar system looked a bit different. Instead a of large Asteroid belt, we had a large rocky planet with one large moon and a few smaller ones.

Something happened. According to the Exploded Planet Theory, this planet exploded for an unknown reason. It’s largest moon spun off and found stable orbit at about 1.5au. We currently call this moon Mars. There is much scientific evidence to support this theory. It also explains many of the things that we have found on Mars. Such as.. Around 3million years ago Mars’s Axis changed by 90 degrees… like it had been hit with something HUGE. One side of Mars is pristine and has few craters while the other side looks like an interstellar war happened there. It also works out to be the side that would have had to have been hit to put Mars on its current Axis. Mars also had a thicker atmosphere that went away at about the same time. Water, Mars shows signs of having Liquid water for a time. It didn’t flow. No river beds or anything. Just big lakes and seas that dried up. Like Huge amounts of water fell out of the sky and then evaporated off over time.

Your asking yourself… How would a planet explode? Easy. According to current planetary models it would only take a large amount of uranium and plutonium at the core. The pressure and heat would be immense. Crushing the Uranium and Plutonium from all sides… If something… like a huge Solar wind were to raise the core temp beyond a certain threshold… BOOM.

How does this affect life on Earth? Many possibilities. One is in the form of a blast of radiation from the exploding planet. This would cause genetic mutation of some degree and change ensuing generations of life. The most wacked idea is that the planet had life on it... Life that had evolved into sentient beings. This race of people had colonized their moon (mars) and the survivors migrated to Earth to survive. They mingled with or altered the existing hominids that later evolved into us.

ok, back to te topic at hand...

i can see how this works in theory, and it makes some sense to me, but i don't quite have a full picture... was earth already in this orbit when this planet exploded, or was earth also a part of this giant planet? what about earth's moon? and how could an expolsion that big *not* blow the other planets out of orbit, eventually sending them veering off into space?

[The_Dark]

Earth was already here and had life on it. Dinosaurs would have come and gone by then... Mamals were developed and there were simians with large brains.. but until this time period.. nothing we consider a Hominid.

If a planet were to exploded.. only the Mantle would stay rocks... the molten core would vaporize. Corrent models say that if Earth were to explode.. 99% of it's mass would vaporize. here...

http://www.metaresearch.org/home.asp

Now, some of this guys research is out there... but most of it is backed up with really good research and math.

[torn asunder]

Earth was already here and had life on it. Dinosaurs would have come and gone by then... Mamals were developed and there were simians with large brains.. but until this time period.. nothing we consider a Hominid.

If a planet were to exploded.. only the Mantle would stay rocks... the molten core would vaporize. Corrent models say that if Earth were to explode.. 99% of it's mass would vaporize. here...

http://www.metaresearch.org/home.asp

Now, some of this guys research is out there... but most of it is backed up with really good research and math.

so basically, what you're getting at is that we won't find a missing link between early simians and humans, because they immigrated here from mars, correct? it may seem far out, it makes a lot of sense to me, considering a lot of the "reasearch" (read: reading) i've done in the past...

question: with an explosion big enough to knock a moon out of orbit & on it's side, do you think that debris from that explosion might be responsible for one of the "mass extinctions" that we think happened?

[The_Dark]

Possibly. Though none corralate with this explosion... but the Exploded Planet theory says that we have had more than one planet explode in this solar system.

[Steven]

ive never been one for force fed religion, i just dont get it. why, even if you believe your religion is THE religion would you feel the need to shove it down peoples throats  =(

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nobody in here is shoving.

[Steven]

:blink If the evangelism hasn't made any headway, I assume it's because previous generations of the people in those areas were uninterested, not for lack of trying on the part of missionaries... right? They can preach, but they shouldn't hope to convert people in every society. That's more a Muslim thing- the belief that Islam will eventually be the only religion.

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I'm pretty much in agreement with this.

Much of the missionairies point of view about the 10/40 window is that there has been almost no headway into these regions, therefore no choice offerred.

I'm not a missionary (although I know some and respect most of them deeply) so its not my thing.

[Steven]

i would have to think that each religion that preaches evangelism and conversion must think they should be the one, true, end-all religion, otherwise why botehr trying to convert people!?

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Obviously I'm not equipped to comment on other religions evangilistic (if any) motivations.

But in general, with Xtians, they are simply fulfilling what they were told to do my Christ himself. I dont know what Mohhamed told his people to do, or Budah, or???? But Christ did a few pivitol things;

1st - he declared himself to be the IAM.

Next - he claimed to be the only exclusive way to "The Father".

Last - he told his followers to "preach" this news throughout the entire world.

so, there ya go. this is your Xtian motivation.

[Gauge]

nobody in here is shoving.

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oh i didnt mean it like that, i was just replying to something TA said

more of a thought than an actual add to topic :doh

[Msterbeau]

not jacked. . .we just took your wonderful idea and ran with it  :grin

I think ran OVER it is a more apt description. :laughing

[Gauge]

I think ran OVER it is a more apt description.  :laughing

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:doh i was trying to make it seem better than what it actually was

[Msterbeau]

:doh  i was trying to make it seem better than what it actually was 

We don't sugar coat things here at DGN.

[BrassFusion]

We don't sugar coat things here at DGN. 

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SOME of us don't.

[Moonlight_Phantasy]

A little over 3 Million years ago our Solar system looked a bit different. Instead a of large Asteroid belt, we had a large rocky planet with one large moon and a few smaller ones.

Something happened. According to the Exploded Planet Theory, this planet exploded for an unknown reason. It’s largest moon spun off and found stable orbit at about 1.5au. We currently call this moon Mars. There is much scientific evidence to support this theory. It also explains many of the things that we have found on Mars. Such as.. Around 3million years ago Mars’s Axis changed by 90 degrees… like it had been hit with something HUGE. One side of Mars is pristine and has few craters while the other side looks like an interstellar war happened there. It also works out to be the side that would have had to have been hit to put Mars on its current Axis. Mars also had a thicker atmosphere that went away at about the same time. Water, Mars shows signs of having Liquid water for a time. It didn’t flow. No river beds or anything. Just big lakes and seas that dried up. Like Huge amounts of water fell out of the sky and then evaporated off over time.

Your asking yourself… How would a planet explode? Easy. According to current planetary models it would only take a large amount of uranium and plutonium at the core. The pressure and heat would be immense. Crushing the Uranium and Plutonium from all sides… If something… like a huge Solar wind were to raise the core temp beyond a certain threshold… BOOM.

How does this affect life on Earth? Many possibilities. One is in the form of a blast of radiation from the exploding planet. This would cause genetic mutation of some degree and change ensuing generations of life. The most wacked idea is that the planet had life on it... Life that had evolved into sentient beings. This race of people had colonized their moon (mars) and the survivors migrated to Earth to survive. They mingled with or altered the existing hominids that later evolved into us.

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as strange as this all may sound, it makes perfect sense to me. its absolutely fascinating. i would love to hear more.