Ramsey Case

[ManicQueen]

John Mark Karr and his confessions. Obsessed or the real deal?

Just some facts about this guy.

*Karr fascinated with JonBenet case

*Karr's father: He researched everything about her

*Ex-wife: He often read up on the case

*Police chief: He said he loved a pageant queen

[BrassFusion]

John Mark Karr and his confessions. Obsessed or the real deal?

Just some facts about this guy.

*Karr fascinated with JonBenet case

*Karr's father: He researched everything about her

*Ex-wife: He often read up on the case

*Police chief: He said he loved a pageant queen

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Wouldn't be at all surprised if the guy's just making it up. I mean, it's ten damn years later, and if he did it, that would mean her parents DIDN'T.

On an unrelated note, i wonder if anyone's ever going to come forward for the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and that other douchebag...

:laughing *holds her breath*

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Just heard about the "he might not be the real deal" thing just now.

Interesting.

Although somehow i feel like this isnt, and never was legitmate news, yet i watch it anyway O.o

[ManicQueen]

I've been watching it too.. just curious to see what comes of it, if anything.

The does look like pretty crazy though. They say that Thialand is a pedifiles Disneyland, no wonder he moved there.

[Homicidalheathen]

Too many holes. I don't think he did it. I think he just wants attention.

[Steven]

hes a pedophile (allright, allright...."allegedly") anyway.

hes been busted for child pornagraphy in the past.

he has an admittted sick preoccupation with sexualizing children and claims to "love" Jon Benet and says they were lovers.

Hes a suspect or was a suspect in another child case in Santa Rosa, Ca (where I lived as a child).

I say he's vermin.

you may think he's just sick.

some may say hes rehabilatatible (sp???)

so who wants to run the risk?

lethal injection. he has all the makings of a predator....(ok, here it comes.....)

[ManicQueen]

hes a pedophile (allright, allright...."allegedly") anyway.

hes been busted for child pornagraphy in the past.

he has an admittted sick preoccupation with sexualizing children and claims to "love" Jon Benet and says they were lovers.

Hes a suspect or was a suspect in another child case in Santa Rosa, Ca (where I lived as a child).

I say he's vermin.

you may think he's just sick.

some may say hes rehabilatatible (sp???)

so who wants to run the risk?

lethal injection.  he has all the makings of a predator....(ok, here it comes.....)

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I agree 100% with you.

People like this DO deserve to be taken out in the woods and shot in the head like a lame horse!

[HipsterDufus]

I agree 100% with you.

People like this DO deserve to be taken out in the woods and shot in the head like a lame horse!

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Meh, I kinda feel like they should be servicing the community. Why shoot them when they could be cleaning our parks, cleaning our highways, etc. All on a chain gang, of course. That's truly repaying their debt to society.

[BrassFusion]

I'm against capital punishment and with Dufus on this one.

[phee]

Meh, I kinda feel like they should be servicing the community. Why shoot them when they could be cleaning our parks, cleaning our highways, etc.  All on a chain gang, of course.  That's truly repaying their debt to society.

yup Yup YUP!!!

[Steven]

Meh, I kinda feel like they should be servicing the community. Why shoot them when they could be cleaning our parks, cleaning our highways, etc.  All on a chain gang, of course.  That's truly repaying their debt to society.

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because:

they have caused a lifetime of suffering that will continue to manifest generationally

they have hunted children, which to me is the ultimate sin to prey upon the truly weak and innocent

because it takes taxpayer money to feed them/bathe them/immunize them/clthe them/insure them/house them

because in public servitude there still is a risk of their accessing the public children

because they need to fucking die.

even other inmates understand this about child predators.

[HipsterDufus]

because:

they have caused a lifetime of suffering that will continue to manifest generationally

they have hunted children, which to me is the ultimate sin to prey upon the truly weak and innocent

because it takes taxpayer money to feed them/bathe them/immunize them/clthe them/insure them/house them

because in public servitude there still is a risk of their accessing the public children

because they need to fucking die.

even other inmates understand this about child predators.

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I understand what you're saying, but removing a child predator from the planet isn't going to fix the suffering that the child will endur for the rest of their lives. Hey, if it happened to a kid of mine (which, thankfully, I'll never have to worry about) I'd probably want to see the guy dead too. However, to live life on emotion is not to be human. I would hope that rationality would win through and I'd realize that his death would never undo what happened to my child.

I think that, on a chain gang, they'd have a hard time molesting a child; I mean, consider the logistics. Plus they'd be "paying their way", so to speak, for being in jail by servicing the community.

[phee]

For some people Death is too easy...

[BrassFusion]

because:

they have caused a lifetime of suffering that will continue to manifest generationally

they have hunted children, which to me is the ultimate sin to prey upon the truly weak and innocent

because it takes taxpayer money to feed them/bathe them/immunize them/clthe them/insure them/house them

because in public servitude there still is a risk of their accessing the public children

because they need to fucking die.

even other inmates understand this about child predators.

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1. Killing them won't prevent that.

2. Begs the question.

3. We have insufficient evidence as to whether it costs more or less to keep them alive, and if they were working on a chain gang, it would offset any costs of living and improve our communities.

4. Hardly.

5. Begs the question.

Not sure what the reference to other inmates is supposed to prove.

[Steven]

I understand what you're saying, but removing a child predator from the planet isn't going to fix the suffering that the child will endur for the rest of their lives.  Hey, if it happened to a kid of mine (which, thankfully, I'll never have to worry about) I'd probably want to see the guy dead too.  However, to live life on emotion is not to be human.  I would hope that rationality would win through and I'd realize that his death would never undo what happened to my child.

I think that, on a chain gang, they'd have a hard time molesting a child; I mean, consider the logistics.  Plus they'd be "paying their way", so to speak, for being in jail by servicing the community.

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A: too expensive to maintain the life of a predator versus public services money saved

B: of course you cannot "fix" the suffering of a child abuse victim - that's a whole other topic

C: molesters/predators will prey upon one another when innocents are unavailable, further exsacerbating the predator drive and mentality at a great fiscal cost to Joe Taxpayer.

D: its not 100% emotion that causes me to beleive that predators should be terminated. In my case its rooted in a simplistic from of logic based on my own experience: that predators by and large, are predators. And they quickly return to a predatory mindset upon release. If there was a known, wild, and rabid dog attacking other pets in the neighborhood that dog should be put down for the saftey of the community.

[phee]

A:  too expensive to maintain the life of a predator versus public services money saved

B:  of course you cannot "fix" the suffering of a child abuse victim - that's a whole other topic

C: molesters/predators will prey upon one another when innocents are unavailable, further exsacerbating the predator drive and mentality at a great fiscal cost to Joe Taxpayer.

D:  its not 100% emotion that causes me to beleive that predators should be terminated.  In my case its rooted in a simplistic from of logic based on my own experience:  that predators by and large, are predators.  And they quickly return to a predatory mindset upon release.  If there was a known, wild, and rabid dog attacking other pets in the neighborhood that dog should be put down for the saftey of the community.

There is no proof (or I should say both sides have proof) that it saves anybody any money at all!!!

Umm.... who said anything about releasing them? :blink

[HipsterDufus]

I think it's interesting to consider some of the other countries that we're lumped with, when it comes to death penalty practice: Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

[HipsterDufus]

There is no proof (or I should say both sides have proof) that it saves anybody any money at all!!!

Umm.... who said anything about releasing them? :blink

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When you consider that most death penalty cases take almost a decade to come to an end and the guy's sitting in jail that entire time, it's hardly a cost saver. Not to mention all of the court costs associated with appeals. I have a hard time imagining costs are that different, especially when you consider public service. I also agree that it should be a life term.

[LuluVox]

I'm all for killing him, but totally against shooting lame horses.

I'm kinda joking. But not about the "no shooting horses" part.

[kellygrrrrrl]

I don't understand why he would be a confessor if he DIDN'T do it?

Somebody please explain!

why would he take the bullet for someone else?

please expand my horizons!

[phee]

I don't understand why he would be a confessor if he DIDN'T do it?

Somebody please explain! 

why would he take the bullet for someone else?

please expand my horizons!

Almost everytime any kind of highly publicized case happens, a few people come out of the woodwork and confess... usually mental issues and anxious for attention... usually when it is a case of a murder (or a serial killer) the police will release to the press a false detail or 2 to weed out these people... For example if a serial killer like carves a mickey mouse symbol into all of his victems stomachs... the police might say to the press that the killer always carves a picture of spongebob into the victems back... so that way when the nuts that showup to the station and say... yeah... I always carve a spongebob into the victems back... the police can kick them to the curb....

[kellygrrrrrl]

wow...weird.

:blink

um...thanks Phee!

=)

[Steven]

Almost everytime any kind of highly publicized case happens, a few people come out of the woodwork and confess... usually mental issues and anxious for attention... usually when it is a case of a murder (or a serial killer) the police will release to the press a false detail or 2 to weed out these people... For example if a serial killer like carves a mickey mouse symbol into all of his victems stomachs... the police might say to the press that the killer always carves a picture of spongebob into the victems back... so that way when the nuts that showup to the station and say... yeah... I always carve a spongebob into the victems back... the police can kick them to the curb....

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copycats.

its a phenomena all its own....

[Steven]

1. Killing them won't prevent that.

2. Begs the question.

3. We have insufficient evidence as to whether it costs more or less to keep them alive, and if they were working on a chain gang, it would offset any costs of living and improve our communities.

4. Hardly.

5. Begs the question.

Not sure what the reference to other inmates is supposed to prove.

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1: matter of opinion. I'm of the beleif that capital punishment increases and a swift process would increase the fear factor of being caught. Predators do NOT feel right/wrong int he same way normal civilians do - they do however for the msot part - value their freedom to satisfy their urges.

2: nothing more to add here...I simply beleive what i do for personal reasons.

3: this too can be questioned (the abundence or lack thereof of sufficient "evidence" and set aside in favor of one's own agenda and value system and probably will never really be "proven" for either side.

4: I'll give you this one - I did not realize at first we were talking about a chain gang situation, I had wrognly assumed we meant rehabilitation/understaffed monitoring, etc - and I used this example due to the NUMEROUS sexual offendors who now are citizens on a lsit and who DO repeat their behaviour and we both know this scenario takes place with regularity.

5: not "proving" anythiing Erin....simply saying, that predators remain predators, whether they are incarcerated or not, there is no true "payback" to society, other predators recognize this, especially when it comes to kiddie crimes, and I dont want to spend my struggling middle american veteran homeowner paycheck to paycheck tax money feeding a predator macoroni and cheese. I would feed him a bullet however. In fact I'd take the job myself if it allowed me to pay my bills.

[Steven]

There is no proof (or I should say both sides have proof) that it saves anybody any money at all!!!

Umm.... who said anything about releasing them? :blink

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if we did not release them, then why do we have public listings for concerned citizens to check on to see if a sexual predator lives in their neighborhood?

think about it.