Damn. Another Psycho. This Time On Vampirefreaks

[Onyx]

Police ID Killer In Montreal College Rampage

Shooter Kills One, Wounds 19

MONTREAL -- A man with a black trench coat whose shooting rampage in a Montreal college killed one person and wounded 19 others before he was slain by police said on a Web site in his name that his favorite Internet game was about the Columbine shootings.

The gunman who opened fire at Dawson College on Wednesday was Kimveer Gill, 25, of Laval, near Montreal, a police official said Thursday, speaking on condition of anonymity because authorities were not ready to announce it publicly yet.

Six victims remained in critical condition, including two in extremely critical condition.

The official said police had searched Gill's home.

In postings on a Web site called VampireFreaks.com, blogs in Gill's name show more than 50 photos depicting the young man in various poses holding a rifle and donning a long black trench coat and combat boots.

One photo has a tombstone with his name printed on it -- below it the phrase: "Lived fast died young. Left a mangled corpse."

The last of six journal entries Wednesday was posted at 10:41 a.m, about two hours before the gunmen was shot to death after the college shooting.

He said on the site that he liked to play "Super Columbine Massacre," an Internet-based computer game that simulated the April 20, 1999, shootings at the Colorado high school by two of its students that left 13 people dead.

Montreal Police Chief Yvan Delorme said the lessons learned from other mass shootings had taught police to try to stop such assaults as quickly as possible.

"Before our technique was to establish a perimeter around the place and wait for the SWAT team. Now the first police officers go right inside. The way they acted saved lives," he said.

Witnesses said Gill started shooting outside the college, then entered the second-floor cafeteria and opened fire without uttering a word. At times, he hid behind vending machines before emerging to take aim -- at one point at a teenager who tried to photograph him with his cell phone.

Police dismissed suggestions that terrorism played a role in the lunch-hour attack.

The gunman opened fire haphazardly at no target in particular, until he saw the police and took aim at them, Delorme said.

Police hid behind a wall as they exchanged fire with the gunman, whose back was against a vending machine, said student Andrea Barone, who was in the cafeteria. He said the officers proceeded cautiously because many students were trapped around the assailant, who yelled "Get back! Get back!" every time an officer tried to move closer.

Eventually, Barone said, the gunman went down in a hail of gunfire.

Delorme said some officers were at the school on an unrelated matter when the shooting erupted. He said reinforcements rushed to the scene and took part in the shooting.

Scores of students fled into the streets after the shooting began. Some had clothes stained with blood; others cried and clung to each other. Two nearby shopping centers and a daycare center also were evacuated and subway service was disrupted.

"I was terrified. The guy was shooting at people randomly. He didn't care, he was just shooting at everybody," said student Devansh Smri Vastava. "There were cops firing. It was so crazy."

Police said the attacker had a rapid-fire rifle and two other weapons. They did not provide details.

Although police initially suggested the gunman had killed himself, Delorme later said at a news conference that "based on current information, the suspect was killed by police."

"Today we have witnessed a cowardly and senseless act of violence unfold at Montreal's Dawson College," Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said. "Our primary concern right now is to ensure the safety and recovery of all those who were injured during this tragedy."

The school was closed until Monday.

Canada's worst mass shooting took place in Montreal when gunman Marc Lepine, 25, killed 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnic on Dec. 6, 1989, before shooting himself.

That shooting spurred efforts for new gun laws achieved mainly as the results of efforts by survivors and relatives of Lepine's victims.

Dawson, with about 10,000 students, was the first English-language institution in Quebec's network of university preparatory colleges when it was founded in 1969.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/9847070/detail.html

[BrassFusion]

People on here who know me pretty well know that I don't believe in hell. But damn, I hope that ass rots on the outskirts of eternity for a thousand years knowing that for all his careful planning and stupid childish terrorist-glamour, he only killed ONE PERSON.

And that he gets to watch that one person mock him through the gates. And that he gets to watch the 19 people he only wounded lead successful lives. That should be punishment enough.

Then he can enter heaven.

[HipsterDufus]

And of course, they're going to find any subculture references that they can to explain why this guy went ape-shit nuts. Odds are good he'll get lumped in with goth kids, especially considering the web site he posted on. <sigh> One asshole making it harder for the rest of us.

[Liberal Larry]

One can only assume that, like Columbine, that George W Bush is the real enemy here. Perhaps if Bush did the right thing and FORCED Canada to ban ALL guns (including those used for the immoral act of hunting) then perhaps those poor kids in frenchi land would not be dead and/or critical condition. If there was no George Bush to repress us, no one would feel the need to wear black on the outside because we feel black on the inside, like Rosa Parks if her skin was on the inside of her body. Thus there would be no need to be goth, everyone would be happy.

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Great website publicity.

[Onyx]

Great website publicity.

:o Yikes. Isn't that taking site promotion a little too far?

[Crazed Vampyress]

Way to be on top of things, Onyx. I was just reading this and came here to do exactly what you did. Damn... AGAIN.

My best friend put it pretty well: the media treat goths like mutants

I wanna vent, but really what can you even say any more!

[Homicidalheathen]

BTK was a christian and worked for his church, stable marriage...good kids... upstanding citizen.....worked for the city as a compliance officer....(he used his job to stalk potential victims while giving them tickets) so......if anyone is stupid enough to think its only the obviously outward freaks and wierdos that do this sort of thing.....they deserve to live in the dark.

Actually this guy was pretty dumb or wanted to get caught or have notoriety.

[Brenda Starrr]

BTK was a christian and worked for his church, stable marriage...good kids... upstanding citizen.....worked for the city as a compliance officer....(he used his job to stalk potential victims while giving them tickets) so......if anyone is stupid enough to think its only the obviously outward freaks and wierdos that do this sort of thing.....they deserve to live in the dark.

Actually this guy was pretty dumb or wanted to get caught or have notoriety.

Good point, and my theory exactly.

[Onyx]

Web site linked to shooting defends Goths

Site claims 600,000 members and millions of page hits a day, and says it's wrong to link it to the bloody shooting spree.

By Reuters

Published: September 14, 2006, 6:45 PM PDT

The Web site used by the "angel of death" gunman who killed one and wounded 19 at a Montreal college on Wednesday claims 600,000 members and millions of page hits a day, and says it's wrong to link it to the bloody shooting spree.

"Just because someone goes around shooting people and happens to be a member of vampirefreaks, doesn't mean that this website has influenced him to do such a horrible thing," said a new posting by "Jet," the founder of the black and purple Web site. "The Goth scene is a very friendly, nurturing, non-violent community and we are very supportive of our users and do not condone any illegal activities," he added.

The Montreal gunman, 25-year-old Kimveer Gill, had posted graphic photographs and comments on the Web site, including one where the barrel of a gun points straight at the camera, and he said loved guns and hated people. Autopsy results showed Gill died from a self-inflicted gunshot to the head, after exchanging gunfire with police during his shooting rampage at Dawson College in Montreal.

The self-styled "Goth/industrial" site was started by "Jet," a Brooklyn resident, in 1999, and users can post pictures along with their likes, dislikes, favorite music and location, and communicate with others in "cults" or groups. The Goth sub-culture is often characterized by black clothing, pale makeup and body piercing. Many of the users write about being alienated from society, and while musical tastes vary, shock rockers such as Marilyn Manson are popular.

The site says users must be at least 13 years old to sign up and adds that "excessively gory/offensive pictures are not allowed. This includes cutting images." A user identified as "kimveer_hater" wrote on Thursday: "the only thing I'm sad about in this situation is that you couldn't have removed yourself from the gene pool before harming others. Rot in hell."

Some of the "cult" names on the site refer to death, freaks, witchcraft and sex or sexuality. Others refer to bands or have seemingly innocent names. The site links to an online clothing store, which sells black T-shirts, corsets and shorts with chains.

The site has been associated with violence before, said Jesse Hirsh, president of technology services firm Openflows Networks in Toronto. In a Toronto trial last year, the girlfriend of a youth accused of killing his younger brother and attempting to kill his stepfather was revealed to have had a profile and pictures on the site. A 23-year old man and his 12-year-old girlfriend, accused of killing a family of three son in Medicine Hat, Alberta, last April, were also reported to have had profiles on the site.

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Thursday that the Montreal shooting was impossible to comprehend. He also said there is a tricky balance between freedom of speech and Web sites such as vampirefreaks.com.

"We as a society have trouble squaring our outrage at some of the images we see, some of the messages that are communicated to young people in particular...with our belief in freedom and our desire to avoid censorship," Harper said.

http://news.com.com/Web+site+linked+to+sho....html?tag=st_lh

[Homicidalheathen]

I love guns and hate most people too....however I don't believe in killing pretty much. I am vegan for the same reason.....

Only in self defense or in defense of my rights as a human.....