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This family member. She has always been a stuck up selfish snooty bitch. Its all about her, her kids....her whatever.

She has her husband so pussy whipped he won't even stick up for himself on major issues.

She was loaning one of her looser friends money behind his back!

No, she does not work.

They are not THAT well off!

She borrowed 6 hundred dollars from us and we thought it was for bills....kids clothes....needed things ya know?

We just found out it was for a trip to see HER parents!

HE never even gets to see HIS parents.....

And, we don't think they will pay us back..ever.

No one gets to see the kids hardly anymore except her side of the family because well, ya know....they are just so much more special and better than the rest of us I guess.

They may be low on cash but you can bet she still gets her nails done professionally and has a expensive gym membership even though she still has a fat ass and fatter attitude.

She uses this old, tired lady to watch her kids all the time.....even when she doesn't need it because well....she is so stressed sitting on her ass all day watching soap opera's. Poor thing.

Rude comments in front of others......put downs......

If she even gets you a gift for any occasion..which is rare.....it will be some cheap, gift certificate cause god knows she can't get off her lazy ass to shop.

He works full time and helps her clean the house???? And does all the yard work??? WTF???

Her pussy ain't that great of that I am sure.

Most of the time you won't get a gift at all....but she expects everyone to spend a ton of money on her kids.

I have always hated her and now everyone is seeing why.

Not that I am gloating......I just wish she would grow up and not be so damn selfish.

k. Rant over. thanks for listening guys.

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The sad thing about situations like that is, if you try to make hubby see what his evil wife is doing, you put him in a position where he feels he has to defend her. Nothing sucks worse than having your family (or friends) dislike your mate.

I am always saying, "The more I see of other families the more I appreciate mine"

I am blessed to have such a wonderful family. No everyone is not perfect and of course there are disagreements & issues... but my great aunt, our family matriarch who joined the ancestors this summer, was always adamant that grudges were not held. So it's amazing to me when I hear of families where people don't speak to each other for years, or "we can't have Susie-Q over because Mattie Lou will be there" or whatever.

A tight family llike ours is a double-edged sword and I do need space of my own... my cousin lives next door to her mom which I could never do. On the other hand, I spent a few months living about 4 blocks from my MaMa and I loved that. I feel so deeply sorry for people who have negative relationships w/their parents... my mother & I kind of evolved into our present friendship, but I made a conscious effort to reconcile with my dad after several years of minimal or no contact and I'm so glad I did. It wasn't easy but... after being in a serious accident which caused me to do much thinking on matters of life & death, I knew I didn't want to someday be standing by my daddy's coffin going "I wish I'd made up with you while you were alive" (my cousin has a truly heartrending story about attending a funeral where this happened).

AFA the "white pride" thing... or racism from any quarter... IMO there's only one race- HUMAN. If there were some real, fundamental difference between us, we couldn't have children together. And if your family has been in the US for more than a generation or two, it's a pretty sure bet you aren't 100% ANYTHING. You have no way of knowing if one of your ancestors was "passing"... back before integration there were people in my own family who left & were not heard from again, and back then when a fair-skinned person did that, the assumption was they had gone away and were passing somewhere. Not to mention the baby-switching thing which certainly happened more than once during slavery times.

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As long as there are things like Black Pride, Latino Pride and the like.. I will defend someones right to White Pride. There is a Black Caucus and a Latino Caucus... but even the mention of the White Caucus brings out the hate... Special funds and scholarships based on "race" as long as it isn't white.

Fuck that.

As long as my black friends are "allowed" to be proud of being black.. I'm going to be proud of being white.

and um.. You favore your family.. whats wrong with her favoring her own?

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As long as there are things like Black Pride, Latino Pride and the like.. I will defend someones right to White Pride. There is a Black Caucus and a Latino Caucus... but even the mention of the White Caucus brings out the hate... Special funds and scholarships based on "race" as long as it isn't white.

Fuck that.

As long as my black friends are "allowed" to be proud of being black.. I'm going to be proud of being white.

and um.. You favore your family.. whats wrong with her favoring her own?

1. historically, caucasian people as a group have not been systematically made to feel inferior. Therefore, in my opinion, they do not have any special need for organized expressions of pride or encouragement to value their culture & history.

3. one of the key missions of any "pride" or advocacy organization is to educate about the history and achievements of the group in question. Very often such information has been ignored or actively suppressed. On the other hand, there is no shortage of information about the history and accomplishments of European-descended people... so where is the need for an organized effort to disseminate such information?

2. in my experience organizations that claim to foster "white pride" take the position that other groups are inferior. There is a huge difference between taking pride in one's own heritage, and denigrating other people's.

and on the family question... the ideal situation would be to honor your mate's family like you do your own... especially if there are children involved. Of course there will be situations where blood family comes before married family- but it sounds like this person displays a total, constant disregard for the "other side" of her children's family.

...looking at this it's pretty much off topic so .. apologies for the kind'a-threadjack, Wendy!

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1. historically, caucasian people as a group have not been systematically made to feel inferior. Therefore, in my opinion, they do not have any special need for organized expressions of pride or encouragement to value their culture & history.

3. one of the key missions of any "pride" or advocacy organization is to educate about the history and achievements of the group in question. Very often such information has been ignored or actively suppressed. On the other hand, there is no shortage of information about the history and accomplishments of European-descended people... so where is the need for an organized effort to disseminate such information?

2. in my experience organizations that claim to foster "white pride" take the position that other groups are inferior. There is a huge difference between taking pride in one's own heritage, and denigrating other people's.

and on the family question... the ideal situation would be to honor your mate's family like you do your own... especially if there are children involved. Of course there will be situations where blood family comes before married family- but it sounds like this person displays a total, constant disregard for the "other side" of her children's family.

...looking at this it's pretty much off topic so .. apologies for the kind'a-threadjack, Wendy!

Thank you...

If this topic is to continue please create another thread in the "current events" area...

Thanks again

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Sometimes you just gotta cut your losses, and when she comes asking for more shit, when you turn your back she'll get the picture. It's a hard thing to do especially since society is sick enough to make families compete for inheratence of any nature. I know it's risky to burn your bridges with blood, but in some ocasions, bridges can be built up again. In order to allow that chance from ever happening are 2 key elements, one, to be respectful and truthful about avoiding her. The other is, she'll have to learn a hard lesson in life to be able to appreciate things you've done for her and to actually make an effort to give back what she takes. That's a fork in the path of life, but wichever way you choose, you'll probably always wonder what the other path lead to... I guess that's how i sort of feel about having to disown my own parents... but i always remember that i've tried for 10 years to fix things and they just never changed so... I'm just relating to you telling you know i know how it feels to be put in that spot, it's something that you shouldn't even have to be put into.

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I hate that certain family members encouraged me to have kids because I was 'whiter than white bread' yup, thats a saying my dad actually uses.

And he said quote: If you marry a black man I will disown you and you won't get anything!

Well lucky for him I didn't because if I fell in love with a black man I would have.....and not given a shit about him.

And he would have never seen his grandkids.

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I hate that certain family members encouraged me to have kids because I was 'whiter than white bread' yup, thats a saying my dad actually uses.

And he said quote: If you marry a black man I will disown you and you won't get anything!

Well lucky for him I didn't because if I fell in love with a black man I would have.....and not given a shit about him.

And he would have never seen his grandkids.

Some people are so sad.

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I hate that certain family members encouraged me to have kids because I was 'whiter than white bread' yup, thats a saying my dad actually uses.

And he said quote: If you marry a black man I will disown you and you won't get anything!

Well lucky for him I didn't because if I fell in love with a black man I would have.....and not given a shit about him.

And he would have never seen his grandkids.

The idea of "disowning" children for ANYTHING (short of maybe being a serial murderer/rapist/child molester) is so alien to me. Just seems like Family can't mean very much to someone who would cut their own flesh & blood out of their life forever just because of their choice of mate.

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My friend was disowned for having bi racial kids....one half mexican and one half black.

Grandpa never visited with the half black girl......ever.

He did eventually warm up to the half mexicano boy......

But she didn't get anything at all when grandpa died. Just the new wife did.

Oh and they (her parents) are/were best freinds with my parents.....they lived next door when I was growing up.

Both families being from Down South.

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I had a half brother & sister in my class a few years ago (2nd graders)... caucasian/latin mom, one dad black, one dad latin... with some biracial cousins in the family also. Caucasian Grandpa was always telling the "white" children that they were better than the others, and generally trying to sow discord in the family. It showed, too... these were some majorly screwed up little ones. Really sad situation. Personally I think it would've been better if Bigot Grandpa had just disowned rather than being such a negative factor in these babies' lives.

My POV is that all these little brown babies are what's gonna bring us together in the end... you can hate a lot of people but you gotta be a pretty heartless beast to hate your own grandchildren. Usually it seems to work according to my theory... I've seen some pretty intolerant types become huge advocates for their biracial grandchildren. But of course there's a few of the heartless-beast types out there, too.

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My POV is that all these little brown babies are what's gonna bring us together in the end... you can hate a lot of people but you gotta be a pretty heartless beast to hate your own grandchildren. Usually it seems to work according to my theory... I've seen some pretty intolerant types become huge advocates for their biracial grandchildren. But of course there's a few of the heartless-beast types out there, too.

WOOOOO!!!! Yes! A thousand times yes!

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