The New 'illness'

[Homicidalheathen]

Is it an illness now to be a bitch and hurt your kids.....?

I am watching a show right now where this big nasty lady beats her kids who are so tiny they can't even tie their own shoes yet.

Anger management? I think she needs a ass kicking.

[GOREgeouslyDecorated]

lets throw a wet blanket party!

[Scary Guy]

depression, anger, whatever. just another thing for drug companies to sell something in a bottle to fix and another scapegoat to use in court for a "temporary insanity" defense.

[Scales]

Yeah speaking of the corrupt drug companies..

I remember the day I first saw a commercial for "Restless Leg Syndrome"...

WHAT THE HELL?

Depending on my problems the only drugs I need are either painkillers, or straight-up 100 proof Smirnoff.

[BrassFusion]

I wanna date a guy with "Restless Wang Syndrome."

[Marblez]

Yeah speaking of the corrupt drug companies..

I remember the day I first saw a commercial for "Restless Leg Syndrome"...

WHAT THE HELL?

Depending on my problems the only drugs I need are either painkillers, or straight-up 100 proof Smirnoff.

I have a sleep disorder and can assure you that RLS is a real thing. Imagine not being able to sleep, no matter how tired you are because your legs are tingling, aching and you have a need to move them constantly throughout the night....

Back on topic - Anger disorder? I can imagine having a temper that just gets away from you. If I had this problem and a pill could stop me from overeacting in a violent way, hell yeah i'd take it. Then again, it should only be prescribed in conjunction with ongoing psycho-therapy to teach better ways to cope. I feel the same for depression and any anti-psychotic meds.

[Msterbeau]

I got RLS. I don't take meds... It's a great way to keep your legs in shape and lose weight. :-)

[torn asunder]

i've actually had something like this before, but it turned out to be a chiropractic issue (lower back out of alignment) i think we're just way too quick (as a society) to medicate everything... :erm

[Steven]

Back on topic - Anger disorder? I can imagine having a temper that just gets away from you. If I had this problem and a pill could stop me from overeacting in a violent way, hell yeah i'd take it. Then again, it should only be prescribed in conjunction with ongoing psycho-therapy to teach better ways to cope. I feel the same for depression and any anti-psychotic meds.

Danger Will Robinson.

I DID use pills, and other "stuff'....... in fact I became quite creative.

Therapy in my case was the face of my father and the ugly reality of repeat history and some surrounding people brave enough to tell me the truth. And a little help from above....

[Steven]

..... i think we're just way too quick (as a society) to medicate everything... :erm

Hell.

Yes.

[Brenda Starrr]

Yeah speaking of the corrupt drug companies..

I remember the day I first saw a commercial for "Restless Leg Syndrome"...

WHAT THE HELL?

Depending on my problems the only drugs I need are either painkillers, or straight-up 100 proof Smirnoff.

LOL

My son SWEARS he has it.

[Marblez]

Danger Will Robinson.

I DID use pills, and other "stuff'....... in fact I became quite creative.

Therapy in my case was the face of my father and the ugly reality of repeat history and some surrounding people brave enough to tell me the truth. And a little help from above....

I am talking *prescripton meds* prescribed to YOU by a real Doctor, not Dr. Feelgood at the end of the block.

[BrassFusion]

I am talking *prescripton meds* prescribed to YOU by a real Doctor, not Dr. Feelgood at the end of the block.

A REAL doctor wrote me a scrip for Ritalin when I was about 12. I feel I'm better off as a result of learning to live with my non-medicated fractious self. Hell, I could STILL be on Ritalin, but I think I'd rather be "me."

But... that's only my opinion from my personal experience.

[Marblez]

A REAL doctor wrote me a scrip for Ritalin when I was about 12. I feel I'm better off as a result of learning to live with my non-medicated fractious self. Hell, I could STILL be on Ritalin, but I think I'd rather be "me."

But... that's only my opinion from my personal experience.

I spent most of my life wondering what was wrong with me. Why couldn't I do what others seemed to be doing - like homework. Hell, I had no doubt in my intelligence - why couldn't I just seem to get things done. Why do I suck so bad, why do I insist on letting everyone down? Always felt as if there was something physically stopping me from being productive. It sure wasn't a lack of drive or motivation...I hated myself for not being able to live up to that damn "potential" my parents, teachers and yes, even employers were always spouting about because I SAW IT TOO. I was introduced to ritalin a year or two ago, (aka Concerta) and medically it is the best thing that could have happened to me, my self esteem, my work and personal life. I now know that when I am on it, I am able to perform the same as others and that I wasn't just a lazy bum wading through life.

but...to each his own.

[BrassFusion]

I spent most of my life wondering what was wrong with me. Why couldn't I do what others seemed to be doing - like homework. Hell, I had no doubt in my intelligence - why couldn't I just seem to get things done. Why do I suck so bad, why do I insist on letting everyone down? Always felt as if there was something physically stopping me from being productive. It sure wasn't a lack of drive or motivation...I hated myself for not being able to live up to that damn "potential" my parents, teachers and yes, even employers were always spouting about because I SAW IT TOO. I was introduced to ritalin a year or two ago, (aka Concerta) and medically it is the best thing that could have happened to me, my self esteem, my work and personal life. I now know that when I am on it, I am able to perform the same as others and that I wasn't just a lazy bum wading through life.

but...to each his own.

Yep. I'm TOTALLY in the same boat, actually.

[Msterbeau]

So... is it OK to want to kill people from time to time?

BTW.. I have all the symptoms of ADD but meds haven't worked. Lucky me... I get to deal with whatever causes it all by myself. Rah.

[Marblez]

So... is it OK to want to kill people from time to time?

BTW.. I have all the symptoms of ADD but meds haven't worked. Lucky me... I get to deal with whatever causes it all by myself. Rah.

To "want" to? That's not so bad. To actually consider it - thats not bad.

[Destroit]

America is too fucking quick to medicate for damn near everything. I'm gonna piss off quite a few people by saying this, but everyone who I've ever met in my entire life who has been on any sort of prescription for their "mental disorder" never needed it and in EVERY instance it made them worse. People don’t need to be medicated for “mental disorders” unless they are truly mental, which is a very very few select people. When I was a little girl, my teachers, counselors, and doctors continually told my mom I would never be a functional citizen of society, I could never be normal, and would most certainly have to be institutionalized and medicated for the rest of my life. They even told her in front of my face when I was merely five that the only place I would end up is in a correctional facility if I didn’t get “help”. They told her I had everything from ADD to autism, and that I needed to be put on ritalin. Well since my mother is a saint, she saved me from those people and instead of taking the easy/lazy way out she made sure she kept on me and raised me to the absolute best she could. She knew I was really just a little shit head who loved to piss off the authorities in my life and that I ALWAYS do what I want and get my way. She punished that outta me in no time (with the non-spank method and everything, just words, grounding, and writing millions of sentences Bart Simpson style) and now I am a fully functioning overachieving 21 year old who is a homeowner, a job holder, a tax payer, a loyal non-crazy friend, and moreover a happy human being. She literally saved my life in my opinion, but I can't say the same for all of my friends who were medicated. Two of them are junkies now, most of my ritalin friends dropped out of high school, and my other friend literally CANNOT remember a single scrap of his entire childhood from the ages 7-14. Others I know are still on it as adults, and will never be able to function in their lives without it because they were never TAUGHT how to be a functioning member of society. It’s not just Ritalin either, it’s most other psychiatric drugs too. For instance, another good friend of mine was put on Paxil in high school for what I would consider a normal case of teenage angst. Welp, lemme tell you, in the 6 months she was medicated she began cutting herself daily almost to the bone, trying to commit suicide, gained an upwards of 30 lbs because she thought she was worthless, nearly ODed on drugs, and made some really really stupid mistakes she’ll probably regret for the rest of her life. When she figured out it was the drugs making her do those things, she weaned herself off of them (because stopping cold turkey can actually make you literally psychotic) and in a few weeks she was happy, motivated, and started a love for life that stands just as strong to this day. Now she is in the process of a class action lawsuit with Pfizer, so she can have her scars fixed because it will cost a few thousand dollars in cosmetic surgery so that she can wear tank tops, shorts, and skirts like normal girls.

The lesson? Sure, there’s a few handful of people that genuinely have psychiatric disorders so severe that they need to be medicated in order to function, but in MOST cases, all people need is strong bonds with others, a sense of worth in themselves and the world, and parents who ACTUALLY RAISE THEM, instead of parking them in front of the Playstation and popping them pills when they act up. Doctors will prescribe anyone anything if they believe they’re “sick” or “depressed” or whatev….how else do you think they bring home their plushy-kushy paychecks?

….Wow….I typed out a damn essay. Sorry, I get kinda heated when it comes to topics like these. :doh :blushing

[Steven]

I am talking *prescripton meds* prescribed to YOU by a real Doctor, not Dr. Feelgood at the end of the block.

[BrassFusion]

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ever do that song, steven? how about at freaky friday?

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[Rayne]

I spent most of my life wondering what was wrong with me. Why couldn't I do what others seemed to be doing - like homework. Hell, I had no doubt in my intelligence - why couldn't I just seem to get things done. Why do I suck so bad, why do I insist on letting everyone down? Always felt as if there was something physically stopping me from being productive. It sure wasn't a lack of drive or motivation...I hated myself for not being able to live up to that damn "potential" my parents, teachers and yes, even employers were always spouting about because I SAW IT TOO. I was introduced to ritalin a year or two ago, (aka Concerta) and medically it is the best thing that could have happened to me, my self esteem, my work and personal life. I now know that when I am on it, I am able to perform the same as others and that I wasn't just a lazy bum wading through life.

but...to each his own.

I was glad to read this Tina.

I was diagnosed ADD (no hyperactivity) in third grade. My parents refused to put me on Ritalin because of it's "bad rep" then. I don't hold it against them ... I wouldn't have either with the things they heard. But I struggled through school and daily functions. I eventually got so far behind I had to drop out. I did take my GED prior to my class graduating and even got into college ... eventually I learned to deal with it on my own - but I was about 17 or 18 before I did. I still have minor struggles every now and then.

Well, in the years, things have changed. My daughter has been diagnosed ADHD and ODD among other things. I don't want her to go through what I did. So we choose to medicate her. She's currently on Straterra for her ADHD. We didn't authorize medication until we had exhausted non-medication routes along with therapy. It was nearly 2 years after her diagnosis.

We've been through many med changes , many reasons why ... but I think it's a good temporary decision until she can learn to cope with it on her own. She does see her therapist weekly and her psychiatrist every 4 - 6 weeks along with the medication.

[Scales]

I agree with you, Penthesilea.

I have the 'symptoms' of ADD, and SAD (Social Anxiety Disorder). A teacher suggested Ritalin to my mother in third grade, and I'm happy she said no to it. I did space out a lot in school, and I'm guessing that I could've done a LOT better if I was actually on the drug. I had very low grades, lots of D's and F's.

Unfortunately for me, I'm not a functioning member of society. A society that revolves around corporatism instead of people does not produce functioning members, more like mechanically-obsessive sedation with the constant lure of greed. I consider myself just another person trying to survive it, I have no problem remembering that money burns. I see politics and the educational system as a complete joke.

There are a lot of things I would like to see, but doubt. I want to see a president who absolutely refuses to wear a suit, who has no party, who has no speech writer and talks with his own vocabulary and focus, and is a rational humanitarian (which coincidentally would make him/her seem extremely radical in the present cheap joke of a popularity contest). I want to see an educational system that doesn't prescribe drugs to kids, the fact that there are preschoolers on anti-depressants is very wrong to me. I'm not attacking parents/guardians who choose to medicate older kids, because I would probably have a diploma if I would've went on medication.

I am happy I've dropped out, but I don't believe that makes me a failure. The difference between a failure and me was I could throw away a blank assignment, or a report card full of low grades I had received once the class got out, and feel good about it. Its when I realized I'm not the one who's faulty, its everyone else trying to live by what is essentially a standards game that has nothing to do with actual learning. I was kicked out of the M.E.A.P. for expressing my opinion, I also mentioned how it was a violation of privacy if I was to be kicked out for what was on my answer booklet, go figure. Basically, I see a failure as someone who chases after standards that are conflicting with their own, standards such as whether or not you would like to be objectified as a voiceless piece of a machine.

Instead of focusing on rehabilitation, we send people to jail and prison to rot. Instead of focusing on learning in an open social atmosphere, we create a heavily socially-controlled prison for the youth. We warn the youth against drugs, but then offer them as rehabilitation. MANY young people either begin taking drugs and/or selling them during school, and some end up getting arrested and transferred to a new prison or jail complex.

This is just the way I see things, 'leaders' that show no independence, and a twisted system creating twisted standards to hold up the justification of it's own ignorance.

[BrassFusion]

It's easier to change the system from the inside.

[DeadBurgerKing (10)]

I believe in physical punishment, to a point...only if it is deserving of such a tremendous repricussion, to teach the child not to do that act again. Dropping milk on the floor, no, it was an accident. Done again, on purpose? Time out on the couch. Now, something such as hitting someone for no reason or stealing, that would be deserving of a 'spanking', if you will.

But lashing out on your child just cause your check for your car insurance bounced?! That's unforgiveable...it sickens me to see parents beat their children for their own mishaps in life. That kind of action needs to be recognized with therapy and if need be some medicine.

[DeadBurgerKing (10)]

I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but I feel strongly about this issue. Being as I have lived through such herendous acts and being a father myself...