Chiropractor

[Kit Kat P]

I would just like to say for the record, that I think I love this man; and the massage therapist that spends a little time on the knots each time I go.

[torn asunder]

i really dig my chiro., too! btw, great to see you posting again!

[Marblez]

I have always been anti chiropractor, but Dave's really seems to do him well.

[Homicidalheathen]

Yah I hear they can really mess you up if they dont know what they are doing.....always get good referrals.

I went to one for years but they couldn't get my tail bone back in so it stays where it is.

[function13]

most people don't know about all the crazy chiro's believe in. look up "straight" chiropractors... you'll be dumbfounded.

[Kit Kat P]

I went to mine for several months before I let him do any hands on adjustment, watching my dad's appointments freaked me out, and got a ton of referrals first

hehehe him and the massage therapist wanted to know what kind of accident I had been in for my back to be that bad

I told them it's a talent

[Kit Kat P]

... btw, great to see you posting again!

Thank you

[Fierce Critter]

I saw one for a few months a few years ago for recurring morning back pain.

Made it go away, it was wonderful.

I need one again. But I'm thinking of going to a massage therapist instead.

I have no clue if that is a stupid idea or not.

[Homicidalheathen]

got a ton of referrals first

Cant stress that enough.

It is too easy to become one but there are some that are better than other with extensive training and experience.

I have a slight Scoliosis as do lots of people, allot of people dont even know it. They should make you bend over in front of them and touch your toes looking down your spine. If they don't even to this and look to see how your spine is first then don't let them touch you, they could really mess things up.

Also, this guy I go to is a massage therapist with extensive training some of it being chiropractic (he is getting his lisence now) and he does minor adjustments with his massage. Its called some sort of yoga massage. He won't bend you further than you can't go.....

He got rid of a sore neck and back for me I almost went to the doctor for. This guy is amazing and affordable.

He also does a spiritual cleansing that actually works......its wonderful.

John Lambert www.divine-interventions.net

16748 14 ML RD

Fraser MI

586-296-1112

[function13]

I believe that this a free country and that you are allowed to do what you want and all, but just hear me out for a sec:

1. By going to a chiropractor, you are essentially avoiding going to the doctor for what could be a serious problem.

2. Yes, seeing a chiropractor is cheap, which is why health insurance covers it. Big corporations would rather pay out a couple of bucks here and there than spend the big money for an operation/physical therapy/etc.

Founder of chiropractic, Daniel D. Palmer, believed that "subluxations" of the spine impinge nerves, interfering with nerve flow, which he dubbed the Innate Life Force, and that all a practitioner had to do was to adjust the spine -- the healing powers of nature would do the rest. Neither Palmer nor any other chiropractor has ever been able to reliably demonstrate the existence of "subluxations," much less validate their importance to health and disease.

The above was found here.

[Kit Kat P]

I see a chiropractor because I tend to store my stress. I'm a deadlines person. I do see a doctor and vent everything that I think he may even remotely need/want to know. I also have done extensive therapy due to a very, very bad relationship. I love my chiro and would maybe even marry him if we both weren't already, and then there's the whole not attracted thing. But hey. I have several friends that just can't see them and I'm cool with that. To each his own and each person knows best how to care for themselves.

I need one again. But I'm thinking of going to a massage therapist instead.

I have no clue if that is a stupid idea or not.

Nope. A great idea. Anything you do for yourself is in a healing manner is beneficial.

[torn asunder]

Founder of chiropractic, Daniel D. Palmer, believed that "subluxations" of the spine impinge nerves, interfering with nerve flow, which he dubbed the Innate Life Force, and that all a practitioner had to do was to adjust the spine -- the healing powers of nature would do the rest.

in my *personal* experience, and based on my *personal* beliefs, the above quoted section is entirely true. i stopped needing to take antibiotics for sinus infections, and after about 6 months of care, no longer even got them. i've had issues where i can feel that the nerve has been impinged, which include loss of feeling, numbness, heat/cold, etc., and within minutes of an adjustment, these symptoms have disappeared. not minimized - *disappeared*! correcting subluxations is, to me, one half of the necessary maintainance, required to fend off illness/maintain wellness, the other being release of negative emotions/ not repressing them in the first place, but i digress...

to each their own, but i credit chiropractic with allowing me to heal myself, rather than depending on MD's to give me "medicines" that only mask issues without addressing them, or causing adverse side-effects...

[function13]

to each their own, but i credit chiropractic with allowing me to heal myself, rather than depending on MD's to give me "medicines" that only mask issues without addressing them, or causing adverse side-effects...

Sure, I can't argue with a person dumping their physician because they feel they are being inadequately treated. Did you get a second opinion?

[torn asunder]

Sure, I can't argue with a person dumping their physician because they feel they are being inadequately treated. Did you get a second opinion?

no need, as i don't have anything seriously wrong with me, only issues i had were that used to get upper resp. infections quite frequently. and , of course, the weakness/nerve issues in arms/legs, which are now gone. unless it's something traumatic (breaking a bone, car accident, etc.) i don't plan on returning to a medical doctor. i fully believe that between "innate life force" and my intent, i can correct/heal anything else. of course, if i'm gonna bleed out or something, sure, call an ambulance for me!

edited to add: i think my md is a great guy, and fully competent at what he does - i just don't agree with the entire mentality of "medicate to treat". i say, find the root cause, and the symptoms will take care of themselves...

[Gauge]

well i did have something seriously wrong with me. i had a case of TMJ that was so bad that my first, second, and third doctor, dentist, and specialist all told me that i was going to be send to Kentucky for 2 weeks to have majorly invasive surgery that *might* work. were talking i was out for days at a time sleeping, waking up only to puke and going back to sleep, vicoden and unltram coctails made me feel good enough to wake up for a bit but all that did was dulled the pain enough that i could really feel it and all i could do was cry. i said screw that and went to the chiropractor. within 2 weeks i was fine. since then ive had one or two attacks but they were sooo minor that i took some tylenol and they were gone within an hour. im sure its not a coincidence that these 2 attacks were when i was stupid and wasnt able to go to the chiropracter regualarly. . .

[saechalyn]

no need, as i don't have anything seriously wrong with me, only issues i had were that used to get upper resp. infections quite frequently. and , of course, the weakness/nerve issues in arms/legs, which are now gone. unless it's something traumatic (breaking a bone, car accident, etc.) i don't plan on returning to a medical doctor. i fully believe that between "innate life force" and my intent, i can correct/heal anything else. of course, if i'm gonna bleed out or something, sure, call an ambulance for me!

edited to add: i think my md is a great guy, and fully competent at what he does - i just don't agree with the entire mentality of "medicate to treat". i say, find the root cause, and the symptoms will take care of themselves...

This sounds somewhat similar to the reasons why I gave up antidepressants.

[torn asunder]

This sounds somewhat similar to the reasons why I gave up antidepressants.

exactly - i did the same after a few weeks. rather sort it out myself!

[function13]

no need, as i don't have anything seriously wrong with me, only issues i had were that used to get upper resp. infections quite frequently...

You attribute your current lack of respiratory infections to chiropractic care?

[torn asunder]

You attribute your current lack of respiratory infections to chiropractic care?

yes, entirely. when the body is healthy, it can fight off infections on its own. when one has a disruption of energy in one's body, (caused in part by subluxations) it weakens it, thus allowing bacteria/virii to gain a foothold, so to speak. energy disruptions can also be from things like lack of sleep, abuse of substances, or even repression of strong emotions, imo... (i have an unpopular theory about this, if anyone wants to hear it...)

[function13]

yes, entirely. when the body is healthy, it can fight off infections on its own. when one has a disruption of energy in one's body, (caused in part by subluxations) it weakens it, thus allowing bacteria/virii to gain a foothold, so to speak. energy disruptions can also be from things like lack of sleep, abuse of substances, or even repression of strong emotions, imo... (i have an unpopular theory about this, if anyone wants to hear it...)

Okay, I see what you're saying. And please don't take offense, but I just don't see the science in that. It all sounds like 20th century "witchdoctory" to me.

I could continue, but I certainly don't want to start a flame war. If you wish to debate a little (in good humor) I'm happy to contribute wholey.

[Gauge]

Okay, I see what you're saying. And please don't take offense, but I just don't see the science in that. It all sounds like 20th century "witchdoctory" to me.

I could continue, but I certainly don't want to start a flame war. If you wish to debate a little (in good humor) I'm happy to contribute wholey.

think of it this way

you have a river thats free flowing, theirs fish and all kinds of little creatures in it living, eating, and poluting it. the river never gets filled with all the polutants because the water flows, the soil around the river absorbs it, and it all gets recycled back into the system. now one day after a storm a few large trees fall into the river stopping the water and creating a backup. now all the polutants from the water creatures on that side are beeing penned up and the water is getting grose and the animals are dieing off because of all the growths because the small amount of soil cannot absorb the polutants. now you can have a person come in and skim the river every single day and put stuff in the water to make it clearer but the day that person stops the upkeap its going to get grose again. option 2, the person clears the trees out. now the river can flow free again and all the polutants can start getting absorbed back into the river like normal

make more sence?

[function13]

think of it this way

you have a river thats free flowing...

No, no, I get "that" part of it. I understand what is meant by life energy, I just don't understand how someone can subscribe to that idea. It just seems to me like the idea of religion; "We don't understand how this is so it must have been created by an all powerful creator". Well, we've learned slowly over time that we can start to explain things we previously didn't understand.

And don't get me wrong, I believe that the minority of reform chiropractors, especially those whom are also massage therapists or employ massage therapists, are a somewhat more level head about their profession.

[Rayne]

How does a chirpractor differ from a physical therapist? I was in physical therapy on and off, with no difference.

I have a issue with my back and neck, from a serious car accident in 2001, the lower portion of my vertibrae in my back slide forward when I bend, but not back when I bend. They get stuck. I frequently throw my back out routinely ... about every three months like clockwork. My neck is where all my tension sits. I've lived on various pain killers from Motrin to Vicodin and everything in between since 2001.

[Gauge]

"We don't understand how this is so it must have been created by an all powerful creator". Well, we've learned slowly over time that we can start to explain things we previously didn't understand.

umm whats not to understand. . .and why do you think it has to be explained away? its not anything mystical, its bones, nerves, and when they get messed up they mess you up. . .

[function13]

umm whats not to understand. . .and why do you think it has to be explained away? its not anything mystical, its bones, nerves, and when they get messed up they mess you up. . .

I'm thinking that "innate life energy" is pretty "mystical" sounding.