Job Offer

[hunhee]

I got an offer, but with all good offers, they come with a price.

My boss (the eccentric one) called me the other day and asked me if I would be willing to move to Denver and take a job as a construction manager.

I am GROSSLY underqualified for this job. I know a lot of jobs fall under, on the job training, but there are a few steps most people have to take in order to get jobs like this. Most people who get these jobs have 30+ years of experience building things, I have never built anything from the ground up (I have fixed things).

PROS:

My salary would double

I would get to travel a lot more

I would get to work for someone whom I have a great deal of respect for.

Working for a large corporation has it's benefits

This is an amazing opportunity, One which I could thrive in.

If this doesn't work out, my current boss told me I could always come back. (I will get this in writing)

CONS:

My family/friends are here

I'm NOT qualified for this job (I'm not saying I cannot do this job, I'm just saying I'm not qualified as of right now)

I would be a corporate puppet

I don't know anyone there, or ever thought to move there

I probably would have absolutely no social life (Cept the people who would try to bribe me into giveing them contracts)

I no longer would be an employee of the company I work for now. (I would, in essence become their customer)

Can you see why my boss wants this?

HELP!!!

[violentivy]

I got an offer, but with all good offers, they come with a price.

My boss (the eccentric one) called me the other day and asked me if I would be willing to move to Denver and take a job as a construction manager.

I am GROSSLY underqualified for this job. I know a lot of jobs fall under, on the job training, but there are a few steps most people have to take in order to get jobs like this. Most people who get these jobs have 30+ years of experience building things, I have never built anything from the ground up (I have fixed things).

PROS:

My salary would double

I would get to travel a lot more

I would get to work for someone whom I have a great deal of respect for.

Working for a large corporation has it's benefits

This is an amazing opportunity, One which I could thrive in.

If this doesn't work out, my current boss told me I could always come back. (I will get this in writing)

CONS:

My family/friends are here

I'm NOT qualified for this job (I'm not saying I cannot do this job, I'm just saying I'm not qualified as of right now)

I would be a corporate puppet

I don't know anyone there, or ever thought to move there

I probably would have absolutely no social life (Cept the people who would try to bribe me into giveing them contracts)

I no longer would be an employee of the company I work for now. (I would, in essence become their customer)

Can you see why my boss wants this?

HELP!!!

Why do you even need to ask? Go! We'll miss you, but that is for the best, you are still young and not having children yet, I see no reason why not, plus you have the security blanket of knowing you can always come back!

[Fierce Critter]

Speaking as a person who was ripped from the place she loved living, her family, everything she knew so her husband could take a job that turned both of us into psychological basket cases...

...don't go.

I have been through this, for better reasons than you are stating - and it was the biggest mistake of my - and my husband's - life.

Money is great. But the consequences of doing something like this for money can be devastating.

Disclaimer: you do have a fallback offer, which we did not. DO GET IT IN WRITING. And then, maybe, it would actually be a good idea to go.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

[damagedangel]

Although I would be sad to see you go, I'd also be sad to see you pass up an opportunity to better your life. Make sure that you get it in writing that you can always come back if it doesn't work.

[saechalyn]

Personally I would follow the money. You can always, as you say, come back if it doesn't work out. And with all that extra dough you can come by to visit!

[Jadis]

friends and family are great .. but you seem like you're a friendly person who would make new friends quickly. you have nothing here to really tie you down... and it seems like it could be an awesome experience!

whatever you decided to do... good luck!!

[Burrich1]

You totally cant pass up an opportunity like this. what would life be without a little risk. you will make new friends and get a new social life.

[creatureofthenyte]

Hunhee,

As long as that come-back "contract" is written in stone and all legal and stuff, before you go, then I say go for it. If you are gonna be makin lots more money, then sock some of it away for a "just in case" or "This sucks, I'm goin back to Detroit" fund lol.

Good Luck!!

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I can see why your boss wants this...

Money.

He gives you a parachute if it doesn't work out and you have to jump...

He gets, or at least thinks he gets, a customer who is loyal to him no matter what.

Do you have an Engineering degree? Who's going to pay for your Li. when you get there? Are you going to be given a chance to learn all the building codes for that state before you start?

Something doesn't sit right. Why you? You have already said your under qualified... so what is their benefit for hiring you considering all the risks involved with construction?

[SuZQZ]

Hunhee - You are young and in a better position to bounce back should it not work out, but you really need to get more information about this position like what is expected of you from the word go, etc. It does sound like a great opportunity, but as Gaf states, why you if you are underqualified? You need to get answers to all of those questions you stated. No sense wasting your time or energy if you discover the answers are less than appealing. Good luck and great success with whatever you decide. *hugs*

[creatureofthenyte]

Yeah, get more information on that Hunhee.

After readin Suzy's post, it made me think that maybe your boss is offerin you that job, just as a way to get you off his payroll, so he can bring in someone new, and pay them alot less money to do your current job.

[sass_in_the_pants]

Something doesn't sound right here...

Like Gaf said, why you? Someone who is not quite qualified? Taking a job for which you are ill prepared, is, in my opinion, one of the easiest ways to screw yourself over. No one cares that you are brand new at all this - the first deadline you miss, it's YOUR ass that will get chewed out.

I've known people who had a similar situation - good job offer out of state, didn't REALLY want to go, but the money was good. They ALL got the 'you can come back if you feel like it' clause in writing.

They ALL came back. Some as soon as two months later, some as long as a year later. BUT, I will say this, for most of them, the experience was, if not great, not terrible either. One of those things where they took a risk and it didn't pan out.

If you get the come back clause in writing, I say you've got nothing to lose, so why not.

If you can't get that in writing, don't go...like I said, something just sounds fishy here.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Scapegoat is what popped into my mind. A Construction Manager is responsible for the whole project. They are the ones who sign-off on everything... building materials, plans... permits... they are the first ones arrested when the building falls down and kills people.

[hunhee]

Scapegoat is what popped into my mind. A Construction Manager is responsible for the whole project. They are the ones who sign-off on everything... building materials, plans... permits... they are the first ones arrested when the building falls down and kills people.

I don't believe I'd be doing that, I'm actually the person releasing the contracts and hiring the person who's responsible for the building materials, permits and plans. I'd be approving extra moneys and stuff like that, approving of the tile selection changes...

[hunhee]

I can see why your boss wants this...

Money.

He gives you a parachute if it doesn't work out and you have to jump...

He gets, or at least thinks he gets, a customer who is loyal to him no matter what.

Do you have an Engineering degree? Who's going to pay for your Li. when you get there? Are you going to be given a chance to learn all the building codes for that state before you start?

Something doesn't sit right. Why you? You have already said your under qualified... so what is their benefit for hiring you considering all the risks involved with construction?

I will be taking classes when I get there. I will be spoon fed the rest of the information that I need when I'm there. I have two people backing me up within the organization and one of those two will be my direct boss. My current boss will also help me along the way. Doing almost the same thing the other two will be doing. I will pretty much just nod and stuff till i get up to speed, but anyone would do that starting a new job, just some people have more previous knowlege.

SO.. in the next six months to a year, I'll be basically in the learning mode, where I will probably be working more than 60 hours a week just trying to get on top of shit. They want me right away (like yesterday).

I don't believe I will need an engineering degree for this job, I have no problems with getting to know the construction laws in the state, because I would have to learn it if my company got the jobs there anyway. I've done a lot of research as it is.

There are several reasons why they want me, some of it benefits all parties monitarily, some of the reasons are where my loyalties lie, and the personalities involved.

[hunhee]

BTW thank you guys for all your repsonses.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Oh, that sounds more like a Project manager than a Construction manager.

[Homicidalheathen]

OMG I would soo go. I love Denver. Whoot!

I used to work in construction.......all ya gotta do is be able to yell at the big boys and not take any crap. lol. What experience do you have?

It is weird they would let you without experience as a project manager....but....hell go for it if you have something to fall back on. Denver is booming, you could be set for life.

[Kit Kat P]

Oh, that sounds more like a Project manager than a Construction manager.

That is exactly what I was going to say. As someone working on a construction site, I'd say take it. And expect to do closer to 70 hours a week, but you will learn a lot, and that is never something to pass on.

[hunhee]

UPDATE: I'm leaning more toward staying in Michigan. I have my personal reasons, my immediate supervisor gave me more options to prepare me better in the future to take a job of this magnitude on my own merit, her opinion I value more than anyone's. I had a long discussion with her, and she believes I'd be successful, but she doesn't want to see me go because she feels I'm a HUGE asset to our company. I feel more comfortable with this decision. Plus, I've taken on a few responsibilities here in the D, and I kinda wanted to see them through before I made any brash decisions on moving away from them. This may be safe, but it's also smart in my opinion. I haven't burnt any bridges, so in the future, I may jump at this opportunity. I definitely take this as a compliment to my hard work.

[creatureofthenyte]

UPDATE: I'm leaning more toward staying in Michigan. I have my personal reasons, my immediate supervisor gave me more options to prepare me better in the future to take a job of this magnitude on my own merit, her opinion I value more than anyone's. I had a long discussion with her, and she believes I'd be successful, but she doesn't want to see me go because she feels I'm a HUGE asset to our company. I feel more comfortable with this decision. Plus, I've taken on a few responsibilities here in the D, and I kinda wanted to see them through before I made any brash decisions on moving away from them. This may be safe, but it's also smart in my opinion. I haven't burnt any bridges, so in the future, I may jump at this opportunity. I definitely take this as a compliment to my hard work.

Good for you Hunhee!

Sometimes, when a job offer is made, and there is more money offered, it isnt always best to jump at it. The details of the offer you had, did seem alittle fishy to be jumpin for, at this point anyway.