ttogreh Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 OCD exists. OCD kept our ancestors alive, and now it cause their descendants to wash their hands until they bleed. The world is a spectrum, Gaf. Stop seeing it in black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Can you prove that? Can you site any source that even says it's a fringe theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Oh god. Not another one. I married someone like you. But I used to be a bit ocd with even numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttogreh Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Don't ever ask questions that you don't know the answer to, Gaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odims_sphere Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Don't ever ask questions that you don't know the answer to, Gaf. So... you're argument is based on a Hypothesis? Doesn't a hypothesis require evaluation? By posting that link you're saying you could be right, and you could be wrong, more study and evaluation is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I never ask questions I don't want an answer to. It's how people learn. BTW, I never said OCD did not exist. Interesting read. So it is a fringe hypotheses. You should not use such definitive statements when talking about an untested hypotheses. I'm still going with the widely accepted science that OCD is a genetic flaw in the brain of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttogreh Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Yes, science is the process of gathering more an more and more and more and more and more evidence for a hyppothesis until it becomes a theory, which can be thrown out as well. Science is NEVER finished. So, I suppose I should have qualified my remarks and said things like "there is evidence to believe that OCD is an evolutionary adaptation". That was my fault, I mangled the language in my previous posts. In any event, the theory of relativity was once a "fringe hypothesis". Genetic flaws have to come from somewhere. The idea that OCD has always been with us, and our environment is turning it into a mal adaptation seems less frightening than the idea that we are spontaneously mutating and developing a mal adaptation. Indeed, that begs the question... what is causing this spontaneous mutation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 About a million factors. Everything from fluctuations in cosmic radiation to the eating habits of the mother while with child. With a big nod to Stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 And how do you know that it has not always been with us as a genetic mutation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttogreh Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Well... if it has always been with us, then it couldn't rightly be a genetic "mutation", now could it? Sickle cell anemia is only sometimes a mal adaptation, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 When exactly is Sickle cell anemia not a bad thing? Any abnormality in the genetic code is a mutation. Some can be passed on, some cant. Hence the need for genetic research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttogreh Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Well, not sickle cell anemia... the sickle cell trait. When both parents have it, you get sickle cell anemia (well, maybe not all the time). When one parent has it, you have a higher resistance to malaria, or so the research shows. Moreover, if the OCD... artifact... has been in our code since the caves, is it really a "mutation" more than it is a "trait"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Gaf + Ttogreh, Really REALLY interesting convo...however I must tell you that you've probably threadjacked that last 20 posts (exaggerating of course, but you know what I mean). Please either cut it out or make a new thread before one of you gets a SCHPANKING! Thanks for the understanding. This topic is moreover about "What is YOUR personal OCD habits". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttogreh Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Hmm. Oh, all right. My OCD issues? Well, I have an inordinate compulsion to clean at the homes of my friends, yet my place is disordered at best and a disaster area at worst. I don't know what that actually says about me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hmm. Oh, all right. My OCD issues? Well, I have an inordinate compulsion to clean at the homes of my friends, yet my place is disordered at best and a disaster area at worst. I don't know what that actually says about me, though. That's funny you say that because I'm the same way. I used to be a sloppy pig though and now I'm a neat freak, out and about and even at my house. Somethings get cluttered when I get busy or my sink might fill with dishes but other than that I've pretty much dropped the clutter bug ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Well, not sickle cell anemia... the sickle cell trait. When both parents have it, you get sickle cell anemia (well, maybe not all the time). When one parent has it, you have a higher resistance to malaria, or so the research shows. Moreover, if the OCD... artifact... has been in our code since the caves, is it really a "mutation" more than it is a "trait"? Yes, all the time. don't get confused by the terms. "Trait" is just the generic term for any genetic option. Anything outside the known norm is a mutation. Hemoglobin S or Sickle Cell Anemia is one of 9 differnt mutations that give some protection from Malaria. Of them, it's the one you really don't want to have as your chance to reach adulthood is severly decreased. No one is sure if it was a direct evolutionary change to combat Malaria or not. If it was, it was a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 On the subject.... I have certain types of OCDish drawing habits.... I tend to draw things in my sketch book in extreme detail of technological nature.... kind of hard to explain I guess, but Rayne has seen it. Maybe I should scan some and put them on DGN... IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrich1 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 My annoying OCD behavior is that I need to read every comic strip twice before my brain can process it. It bugs the crap out of me. I usually avoid reading comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttogreh Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Phee, I would like to see your sketches. However, If they are novel and innovative ideas, perhaps you should consult a copyright or patent law professional before posting them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_princess Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 the only numbers that i don't like are 2 & 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadnifer Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I cannot STAND it when my hands aren't doing something. I need to be doing something with them at all times. When I'm watching T.V. I will be doing a crossword puzzle or something like that. If I'm not doing that, I at least have to be holding hands with my boyfriend if he is with me or holding my own hands. It ticks people off sometimes because if I don't have access to a crossword while I'm watching television, I tend to drum my fingers on the table or side of the chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Phee, I would like to see your sketches. However, If they are novel and innovative ideas, perhaps you should consult a copyright or patent law professional before posting them here. Thanks... some of them are in some odd shape from the pen and paper quality (acidity and whatnot). I doubt that the skill level is worthy of copyright... but I will see if scanning them will be possible... Thanks for the interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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