Guns, $$, Nipple Peircings And Homophobia

[Steven]

this is being passed around My Space...apparently it comes from Andy Rooney of 60 minutes fame from a few weeks back, but to be honest one never knows with these things anymore. To me it sounds very familiar, but it seemed worth discussing as there are certainly some unpopular and non PC ideas and attitudes in this gathering of quotations......at this point I am neither condeming nor condoning the statements, as i have mixed emotions about them, but I am presenting them to you spooky kids to take a few swings at.

Have at it.....

ANDY ROONEY:

(A) I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers.

The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America.

Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens... Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

(B) Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

© I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason; that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!

ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

(D) I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.

(E) I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

(F) When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.

(G) I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

(H) My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

(I) I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

(J) I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

(K) We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

(L) I don't hate the rich I don't pity the poor.

(M) I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television.

That doesn't stop you from watching them.

(N) I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.

(O) It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

(P) I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

(Q) I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe . I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

And if you don't like my point of view, tough...

edit: I went back thur and asigned paragraph or topical letters markers for future discussion....

[freydis]

Actually this wasn't Andy Rooney....

[Brenda Starrr]

Well, Steven didn't say that it definitely WAS. But it's an interesting read all the same.

[sass_in_the_pants]

So, Andy Rooney didn't say any of this, but theri just discussion points. I do have something to say about this one:

(P) I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

If I have to suffer through ONE more soliloquy about how someone's tattoos MEAN something, about how the porcupine on your leg is your fucking spirit guide, and the tribal band on your arm took forty-three hours to design, and the Japanese symbols on your very non-Japanese skin mean something super top secret (in which case let's hope you don't ever go to Japan and find out what you thought said 'Death is beautiful' actually says 'Purple Monkey Washing Machine'), if I have to suffer through ONE more speech about any of this foolishness, I might just pierce someone's mouth shut.

And that's all I hafta say about that.

[freydis]

Well, Steven didn't say that it definitely WAS. But it's an interesting read all the same.

Oh, definately. I was just clarifying, as I am a bit of a Snopes.com geek.

[jadnifer]

The one where he says that he has the right NOT to be tolerant of people that are different weird or tick him off...I just have to say that he is completely different from everyone else. I dont think that you necessarily have to accept someone that is different but you should at least be tolerant to the point where you can be humane to the person.

And thats all I have to say about that

[Brenda Starrr]

So, Andy Rooney didn't say any of this, but theri just discussion points. I do have something to say about this one:

(P) I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

If I have to suffer through ONE more soliloquy about how someone's tattoos MEAN something, about how the porcupine on your leg is your fucking spirit guide, and the tribal band on your arm took forty-three hours to design, and the Japanese symbols on your very non-Japanese skin mean something super top secret (in which case let's hope you don't ever go to Japan and find out what you thought said 'Death is beautiful' actually says 'Purple Monkey Washing Machine'), if I have to suffer through ONE more speech about any of this foolishness, I might just pierce someone's mouth shut.

And that's all I hafta say about that.

LOL.....

While mine really DO have meanings, I'm not some weirdo about it. Those that are simply grate my nerves.

[Marmee_Noir]

Heh, I agree with quite a few of those.. Specially love

“(Q) I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe . I am proud to be from America and nowhere else. “

Since my Grandmother is Japanese and from Yokohama, it makes me a fourth Japanese… From now on I am so referring to myself as “Asian-American.. Hahaha whatever!

[sass_in_the_pants]

Heh, I agree with quite a few of those.. Specially love

“(Q) I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe . I am proud to be from America and nowhere else. “

Since my Grandmother is Japanese and from Yokohama, it makes me a fourth Japanese… From now on I am so referring to myself as “Asian-American.. Hahaha whatever!

LOL.

Oh my gawd, that gets on my nerves SO freaking bad! I actually knew a girl who was like 'I'm Irish!' which came as news to me, because I thought she was from Monroe, but apparently, she was from Ireland.

Oh no, wait, it was her...wait for it...GREAT grandmother who was from Ireland. Yes, indeed she was from Monroe and was about as Irish as a green McDonald's milkshake. Why do people do that? Why do people have to go around misappropriating other people's history and heritage? Sheesh, get your own damn ancestry! Stop trying to steal someone else's!

[sass_in_the_pants]

LOL.....

While mine really DO have meanings, I'm not some weirdo about it. Those that are simply grate my nerves.

LOL. As long as the porcupine isn't your spirit guide, it's all good. Groundhogs, fine. But not porcupines. That's just for weirdos.

[Steven]

The one where he says that he has the right NOT to be tolerant of people that are different weird or tick him off...I just have to say that he is completely different from everyone else. I dont think that you necessarily have to accept someone that is different but you should at least be tolerant to the point where you can be humane to the person.

And thats all I have to say about that

we shall have to define tolerant then....

and yes I DID say that I didint know if it was Andy ROoney and I did not codone or condemn....just thougth it was interestgin stuff at which I'llpost my thoughts on later tommorow...carry on....

[Steven]

Whether you agree with the points or not, the only thing that would make one an idiot is to think that any of these perspectives are original.

were not trying to prove originality here, that thought never came to mind....doesent matter who wrote it.

[Marmee_Noir]

LOL.

Oh my gawd, that gets on my nerves SO freaking bad! I actually knew a girl who was like 'I'm Irish!' which came as news to me, because I thought she was from Monroe, but apparently, she was from Ireland.

Oh no, wait, it was her...wait for it...GREAT grandmother who was from Ireland. Yes, indeed she was from Monroe and was about as Irish as a green McDonald's milkshake. Why do people do that? Why do people have to go around misappropriating other people's history and heritage? Sheesh, get your own damn ancestry! Stop trying to steal someone else's!

Hahaha technically, I’m 50% German 25%Japanese and the other 25% is made up of French and Irish… So to be politically correct I need to go by, German-Japanese-French-Irish-America.. lol Maybe I can get some government grant to help pay off my student loans with that title...

Heh, I know what you mean though.. I have a guy friend who is like that with the whole Irish thing... But in his defense he least looks Irish through and through.

P.S Shamrock shakes.. Gawd those things are just not natural.. YUCK lol

[Marmee_Noir]

LOL. As long as the porcupine isn't your spirit guide, it's all good. Groundhogs, fine. But not porcupines. That's just for weirdos.

LMAO I met this guy one time who had a big shack/motel tattooed on one leg and roaches all over his body.. Spouted some junk about a roach motel and how it represented his life and blah blah blah.. Ummm yeah ok sure!

[Brenda Starrr]

LOL. As long as the porcupine isn't your spirit guide, it's all good. Groundhogs, fine. But not porcupines. That's just for weirdos.

HAHA!!! I was thinking leeches, since most of my life has been inhabited with bloodsuckers.....

[Homicidalheathen]

(E) I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

That part is true. I tell my kids to expect strange looks when they go out of their way to look strange!!!! Hello! Are you NOT doing it for shock value?

I liked this post overall. Americans sometimes get their panties in a bit too much of a bunch. Considering....

[Steven]

(E) I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

That part is true. I tell my kids to expect strange looks when they go out of their way to look strange!!!! Hello! Are you NOT doing it for shock value?

I liked this post overall. Americans sometimes get their panties in a bit too much of a bunch. Considering....

cool response, straight up honest.

what is "Tolerate" by the way kiddies? and please dont quote me Webster, just give me yoru impressions...

other commentary:

on living here and not speaking english:

GET OUT IF YOU DONT WANT TO SPEAK MY LANGUAGE. I have two grandmotehrs, both from Mexico. One never learned to speak english, she was here longer than I have been on planet. She died bitter and detatched. The other one is oh so cool and in her 90's and speaks english wonderfully - thick accent but she's proud of what shes accomplished.

On Tattoos:

I have em, and I admit that one I want to cover up, only because its no logner a part of my life (and Anhk). Some fo the shit I see is sooooooooooooo friggen done to death and unoriginal, and other shit is so "original" that its trite. If you cant live on yoru own and pay your bills then your not anywhere near ready for a lifelong body mark. Some foyou have tats that say your powerful and indipendent and yet you live at Mom's...

On guns and killing and death:

people kill people. Rules are fine, background checks are fine, but when we give up our arms for good we're BF'd for good.

On racial pride: I am proud of my Latin heritage. I do not say "Hispanic" because thats a class coined by white folk. I sometimes say Mexican although I was bron in Cali. But the bottom line is that I am definately not a typical Jones/smith blond haired blue eyed kid - my homelife had EVERYTHING to do with my heritage - and so that is important, as is yours, and yours, and yours.....stop wasting all our time being offended that Black people want their own social vehicles of recognition, there is a reason they want it - a reason they identify the way they do and its their right. If you REALLY wanted "White whatever", you'd do it, if you REALLY had the conviction to do it, but you dont, you just bitch, and so there you go.

gotta get back to work.

and Brenda Starr has the coolest tattoos ever.

Steven

[saechalyn]

(Q) I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe . I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

When I worked in a nursing home this lady once said to me, "You know what? When I was your age, I was colored. Then I was a negro, then I was black. Now I'm an 'African American. What the hell is that? I've never been to Africa! My grandson tells me 'Nana don't say black say African American.' I say, what the hell for? Boy, you ain't African you from BROOKLYN."