How Different Can Your Significant Other Be....?

[Homicidalheathen]

Someone's post got me thinkin' (yup, were all in trouble now heh)

How different can your significant other be?

I personally could not be with a chirstian because I would freak said person out, they would NEVER totally 'get' me.......

I am with a hindu because its not so different from wiccan......

could never be with a repulican because of what it stands for.....hell at this point I don't want to ascribe to any political point of view as it may change.........

I know a muslim wouldn't work in a long term relationship......even though the bow down to mecca thing 3x a day is awfully cool......I like that........but thats about it.

Someone who is not into art in some way or another......cause they would not understand all the time and energy I need to focus outside the relationship to make a project come together.......

Although some difference is healthy as we balance each other out......I am more outspoken........ect.....ect........

[Steven]

Someone's post got me thinkin' (yup, were all in trouble now heh)

How different can your significant other be?

I personally could not be with a chirstian because I would freak said person out, they would NEVER totally 'get' me.......

I am with a hindu because its not so different from wiccan......

could never be with a repulican because of what it stands for.....hell at this point I don't want to ascribe to any political point of view as it may change.........

I know a muslim wouldn't work in a long term relationship......even though the bow down to mecca thing 3x a day is awfully cool......I like that........but thats about it.

Someone who is not into art in some way or another......cause they would not understand all the time and energy I need to focus outside the relationship to make a project come together.......

Although some difference is healthy as we balance each other out......I am more outspoken........ect.....ect........

Girl you couldent freak me out if you tried.....

[Destroit]

I personally could not be with a chirstian because I would freak said person out, they would NEVER totally 'get' me.......

Apparently you don't get us s'okay, there's always massive misconception by people who are non christian (that and, yeah, you'd probably scare the more "devout" sects, and yeah the quotes were on purpose, like mormons for instance. But I think all of us would scare the hell outta them)

Raven and I have a good deal in common, but a WHOLLLE lot of things we disagree on. We're one of those walking examples of "opposites attract" He's pagan/wiccan (doesn't do any of like, the rituals or anything anymore, but that is still his persuation, he was raised up that way). I'm Presbyterian (Non-practicing, because 9 am on a Sunday...I mean DAMN, God sure gets up fucking early after a night of clubbing).

He's all "everything should be natural" and I'm all "dude it would be totally sweet if people...you know...looked like cyborgs and had day-glo everywhere with sparkles 'n' vinyl 'n' stuff"

Musically we're different, he listens to like actual rock/alternative/metal and then rapper Tech Nine (only rap he likes), I listen almost entirely to industrial/ebm/synthpop and if I feel like getting silly I reminisce with old silly music from my past (think...you know...like Ace of Base. If anyone disses...I have DBK to back me up on how bad they still rock . Keep in mind Chernobyl WAS at one point a 10 year old little girl, coincidentally in 1995).

I can tend to be very home-oriented (I'm a cancer) and can keep myself entertained in my own house for days without leaving, whereas he loves to be out and about seeing new things.

He loves change, I fear it, etc.

I could go on for awhile, but you get my point.

[jadnifer]

I think its all in each individuals preferences. Some people can live with and get married to someone that has a different religion.

The way that I feel is that if the couple decided to have children...I think that it might be difficult to decide how to raise that child.

[Steven]

I think its all in each individuals preferences. Some people can live with and get married to someone that has a different religion.

The way that I feel is that if the couple decided to have children...I think that it might be difficult to decide how to raise that child.

I agree - especially if one parent's religion was rooted in exclusivity, such as Christianity being the case in that it teaches there is only one mediator between God and man....if the other parent does not ascribe to this beleif - you've got mixed messages and confusion.

[Nienna]

I'm really pretty different from my sig. other in the sense of taste, lifestyle, music, social scene, etc. We are the exact same person inside though and that makes the other stuff not matter.

[the eternal]

Agreed. I think Christian is an EXTREMELY broad term.

I couldn't be with a moralizing christian who has damned me to hell or waiting for me to accept Jesus, but that's the stereotype not the reality.

Windy, none of the Christians on here would be freaked out by you, but there are some people, regardless of faith that might be.

Me, I couldn't be with a Republican, because I'm very political and very progressive, and I'd eventually kill that person, and donate said person's clothes and money to a battered women's shelter that's underfunded due to GOP cutbacks. (I hope you caught the irony, there)

But I think I'm more the exception, not the rule.

I think the key issue you'd have to ask yourself is:

What are the things most important to me and how does my partner stand on them?

(for me: political philosophy, emotionality, religion, intelligence, music)

EVEN if your partner has different stances, they may compliment you, or at least respect your viewpoints.

As long there's respect and understanding, there are few things that two people can't overcome.

[Destroit]

Agreed. I think Christian is an EXTREMELY broad term.

I couldn't be with a moralizing christian who has damned me to hell or waiting for me to accept Jesus, but that's the stereotype not the reality.

Windy, none of the Christians on here would be freaked out by you, but there are some people, regardless of faith that might be.

Me, I couldn't be with a Republican, because I'm very political and very progressive, and I'd eventually kill that person, and donate said person's clothes and money to a battered women's shelter that's underfunded due to GOP cutbacks. (I hope you caught the irony, there)

But I think I'm more the exception, not the rule.

I think the key issue you'd have to ask yourself is:

What are the things most important to me and how does my partner stand on them?

(for me: political philosophy, emotionality, religion, intelligence, music)

EVEN if your partner has different stances, they may compliment you, or at least respect your viewpoints.

As long there's respect and understanding, there are few things that two people can't overcome.

Yeah I had a guy tell me that we wouldn't work out because he was a democrat and I'm not. I thought..."wow...that was rude, yet somehow, expected." Thought it was immature of him at first, still slightly do, but I figured if he felt that strongly about it then that's his priority. I'm not even like this crazy right-winger who runs around thumping bibles on my head and shit like that all anti-gays, anti-abortion (I think it's horrible when women get them, but it's not my place to judge and say no), etc, I'm more of a Rudy Giuliani kinda person, pretty much on the fence but a bit more republican because I do not believe in the government hand-outs, I believe in people helping themselves (I understand slight aid or slight pushes here and there, but things like cash assistance just because you got knocked up and had a kid on your own stupidity? Puh-lease, not on my tax dollars, kthnx. If people make stupid decisions, they should drown in them and not be fished out, that's my philosophy.)

[Steven]

Agreed. I think Christian is an EXTREMELY broad term.

I couldn't be with a moralizing christian who has damned me to hell or waiting for me to accept Jesus, but that's the stereotype not the reality.

Windy, none of the Christians on here would be freaked out by you, but there are some people, regardless of faith that might be.

Me, I couldn't be with a Republican, because I'm very political and very progressive, and I'd eventually kill that person, and donate said person's clothes and money to a battered women's shelter that's underfunded due to GOP cutbacks. (I hope you caught the irony, there)

But I think I'm more the exception, not the rule.

I think the key issue you'd have to ask yourself is:

What are the things most important to me and how does my partner stand on them?

(for me: political philosophy, emotionality, religion, intelligence, music)

EVEN if your partner has different stances, they may compliment you, or at least respect your viewpoints.

As long there's respect and understanding, there are few things that two people can't overcome.

Disagreed (lol) in that the term Christian is a broad term.

Ultimately if you profess to label yourself as a follower of said Religeous leader (J. Christ) then you run into the problem of his claiming to be "the truth, the way, and the life, no one comes to the Father except thru me..."

that part of the faith is intrinsic to the core of the identity itself, because Christianity is a mediative process between man and God, and Im not even arguing for the value or possible truth of Xtianity here, I'm simply saying that in the long run its divisive, I admit that freely.

So If Im partnered with a hot redhead whos of another beleif system and I tell our kid "Jesus is the only way" and she tells my kid "there are many pathways and walk the rice papah" well then you see we've got a conflict and were both doing the kid a dis service.

HH and I could still be buds though. I'd even tip a few with her. But Chernobyl is far too conservative for me.

[Destroit]

HH and I could still be buds though. I'd even tip a few with her. But Chernobyl is far too conservative for me.

Damn...I just can't get nuthin' right. *kicks dirt*

[odims_sphere]

Damn...I just can't get nuthin' right. *kicks dirt*

I'd bang ya, well that is if.. you wern't, and I wasn't... you know....

Nevermind.. butthole J/K!

[Destroit]

Psssht! J/k my butthole

No I know you were jokin'.

[creatureofthenyte]

It's been said already,

but I too think that if two people can connect on the level of their personalities, and they enjoy being together and get along, then alot of differences can be dealt with, overcome, etc.

If someone says; "oh I can't be with you cuz yer a democrat, or you're this or you're that" then just leave them in the dust, they are not the right one for you.

Its a matter of:

what attracts you to the other person,

how do they make you feel,

what Do you have in common,

are you both open minded and willing to try stuff that the other person is into ?

Its your life, live it your way.

[the eternal]

It's been said already,

but I too think that if two people can connect on the level of their personalities, and they enjoy being together and get along, then alot of differences can be dealt with, overcome, etc.

If someone says; "oh I can't be with you cuz yer a democrat, or you're this or you're that" then just leave them in the dust, they are not the right one for you.

Its a matter of:

what attracts you to the other person,

how do they make you feel,

what Do you have in common,

are you both open minded and willing to try stuff that the other person is into ?

Its your life, live it your way.

Well put!

I hate that other people can say what I want to say in a better more succinct manner (yet of course that's what I love about Bean )

I don't think any reason is too immature for not being with someone, IF said issue is so important to them that it will cause problems that can't be resolved in the future.

Steven--

Being a follower of Jesus is different than being a Christian.

Anyone can say they're Christian.

Not everyone follows the teachings.

There are zillions of people that violate every commendment daily, don't go to church, and couldn't distinguish between Jesus Christ and Jesus Garcia (pron HEY-seuss) their favorite coke dealer.

Yet they walk around with a cross on their chest, and say they're Christian.

And then, of course there are people like R Kelly who lauds the bible and thanks Jesus for making him

all that he is today

(Hmm, well he's an untalented pedophilic whore--I suppose he must have been created the day G-d rested)

[saechalyn]

Hmm. Well, I work at Planned Parenthood, so anyone who does not support our mission and work is out, no exceptions. Also out is anyone who is against gay rights, including marriage. I do not want kids, so it's obviously important that my partner feel the same.

I think those are the only absolutes, but there are others that fall in the "never say never, but do say 'not bloody likely'" category. I suppose it's not unfathomable that I could fall for someone who is in favor of this morally bankrupt war, but I can't say I see it happening. Also, I used to be a Christian, and losing my faith was hard, but irreversible. I won't say I'd never date a Christian, but it would present significant challenges.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I gotta ask.. and I'm not trying to be an ass or anything... but how can... I mean... How can you work for Planned Parenthood and then take a stand on rights? I mean... I have no problem with most of what they do. The org is for the most part a good thing and a needed thing. It's thier founding I have issues with. I mean, they used to be pretty open to the fact they were created to get rid of a certain class of people. Namely the poor and those of color.

In Pivot of Civilization, Sanger referred to immigrants and poor folks as "human weeds," "reckless breeders," "spawning ... human beings who never should have been born."

"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." (Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon)

[Steven]

I gotta ask.. and I'm not trying to be an ass or anything... but how can... I mean... How can you work for Planned Parenthood and then take a stand on rights? I mean... I have no problem with most of what they do. The org is for the most part a good thing and a needed thing. It's thier founding I have issues with. I mean, they used to be pretty open to the fact they were created to get rid of a certain class of people. Namely the poor and those of color.

damn good post Mark. Ugly but good.

Dr. Leonard horowitz (tetrahydron.org) has taken this further in some of his books. He goes to suggest (declare as fact) that 50 percent of Native American women are sterile, and 30 percent of African American women are sterile, as a direct result of free immunizations given at inner city clinics and also thru planned parenthood. He states that there is a certain type of protein included in these free imunizations that makes it impossible for an egg to bond itself to the uterine wall.

[Steven]

Damn...I just can't get nuthin' right. *kicks dirt*

I jest.

yer kool.

edit: forgot to add cute (dont get cocky)

[Steven]

Well put!

I hate that other people can say what I want to say in a better more succinct manner (yet of course that's what I love about Bean )

I don't think any reason is too immature for not being with someone, IF said issue is so important to them that it will cause problems that can't be resolved in the future.

Steven--

Being a follower of Jesus is different than being a Christian.

Anyone can say they're Christian.

Not everyone follows the teachings.

There are zillions of people that violate every commendment daily, don't go to church, and couldn't distinguish between Jesus Christ and Jesus Garcia (pron HEY-seuss) their favorite coke dealer.

Yet they walk around with a cross on their chest, and say they're Christian.

And then, of course there are people like R Kelly who lauds the bible and thanks Jesus for making him

all that he is today

(Hmm, well he's an untalented pedophilic whore--I suppose he must have been created the day G-d rested)

not sure exacty where your going with this on as a refute to my former post bud. please explain further?

but just for yux - let me add this....

anyone can say they follow after the teachings of Christ too and be comepletely full of shit. And again, not everyone follows the teachings. Anyone can be a fraud in any position in life and under any decalred identifyer, be it religeous, "spiritual", political, whatever, and we'd all disagree on one universal mode of singleing out sincerity - just look in here, nobody can even agree on what a true Goth is.

Violating a commandment does not seperate one from being "real". Im a a commandment violater. And Chrsit himself said if you fail on just one statute you fail on them all.....so he must have been pointing toward something else...

my original statement Eternal, was really just intended to exemplify that differing faiths CAN indeed create an impasse in a relationship or if anytgin add confusion to it. (hence the biblical warngin about being unequally yoked.....)

[Steven]

Hmm. Well, I work at Planned Parenthood, so anyone who does not support our mission and work is out, no exceptions. Also out is anyone who is against gay rights, including marriage. I do not want kids, so it's obviously important that my partner feel the same.

I think those are the only absolutes, but there are others that fall in the "never say never, but do say 'not bloody likely'" category. I suppose it's not unfathomable that I could fall for someone who is in favor of this morally bankrupt war, but I can't say I see it happening. Also, I used to be a Christian, and losing my faith was hard, but irreversible. I won't say I'd never date a Christian, but it would present significant challenges.

well, this is probably wise on your part. Although I disagree with your stance per se, I understand how the no exceptions rule would apply to you.

I'm sorry you lost your faith, I definately understand the pain that accompanies that recognition.....if God is real I think he understands as well.....

[Nienna]

Hmm. Well, I work at Planned Parenthood, so anyone who does not support our mission and work is out, no exceptions. Also out is anyone who is against gay rights, including marriage. I do not want kids, so it's obviously important that my partner feel the same.

I think those are the only absolutes, but there are others that fall in the "never say never, but do say 'not bloody likely'" category. I suppose it's not unfathomable that I could fall for someone who is in favor of this morally bankrupt war, but I can't say I see it happening. Also, I used to be a Christian, and losing my faith was hard, but irreversible. I won't say I'd never date a Christian, but it would present significant challenges.

You!! Out of my head!! LOL

[saechalyn]

I gotta ask.. and I'm not trying to be an ass or anything... but how can... I mean... How can you work for Planned Parenthood and then take a stand on rights? I mean... I have no problem with most of what they do. The org is for the most part a good thing and a needed thing. It's thier founding I have issues with. I mean, they used to be pretty open to the fact they were created to get rid of a certain class of people. Namely the poor and those of color.

Our country has a racist history. If you go back far enough you will find ugliness everywhere, and it is nothing to be proud of. But what does that mean for how we should behave today? Should I dismiss the Declaration of Independence because Thomas Jefferson owned slaves?

I have heard all the criticisms of Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) and all the defenses a thousand times. I've heard that she wanted to exterminate everyone of color and I've heard that Martin Luther King praised her work. Where is the truth? I don't know.

I am the daughter of racist parents. The way I was raised is not my fault, but it is my responsibility to correct that thinking as an adult, and I work on a daily basis to do so. I do not know the full truth of my organization’s history as it is clouded by propaganda from both sides. I imagine the truth is somewhere in the middle, as it so very often is.

But I do know what our mission is today. Our mission is to ensure full access to reproductive health care for all people through medical services, education and advocacy. We believe that each person should be free to decide when and whether to be a parent so that every child is wanted and loved.

I can work here because I believe in what we are doing now, today, in this day and age. I can work here because there are women who still think you can’t get pregnant during menstruation. I can work here because there are men who think their lives are over because of an STD when all they need are some antibiotics. I can work here because as a society we are so profoundly fucked up about sex we don’t even teach our children the proper names of their body parts. I can work here because I believe in the right to abortion. I can work here because there are hundreds of thousands of people who would not be able to afford birth control without us.

If this work comes with an imperfect legacy, I accept that.

[Steven]

If this work comes with an imperfect legacy, I accept that.

sounds a little bit like me with my christianity....

[saechalyn]

sounds a little bit like me with my christianity....

Me too, when I was christian (crusades?? hehe)

[saechalyn]

well, this is probably wise on your part. Although I disagree with your stance per se, I understand how the no exceptions rule would apply to you.

I'm sorry you lost your faith, I definately understand the pain that accompanies that recognition.....if God is real I think he understands as well.....

Thanks. I like to think so