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I'm installing Vista on my home box tonight. Already downloaded Vista SP1 RC1 to take care some of the problems Vista has....

but really... Does anyone remember how they felt about XP when it came out? Everyone talks about how good it is now... but when it first came out it was just as hated.

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Once XP was actually on store shelves, I remember the reviews continuing to be generally quite positive. There were some reservations and qualifications, to be sure, but after 98 and ME, XP was like a godsend. The only folks I recall who were hating on XP were those people who either loathe everything ever made by Microsoft or who are never satisfied with anything.

I say XP was a-prettypretty good. Vista just raises the blood pressure.

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Vista is the devil....it lures you in with pretty graphics and flashy stuff and then says, usually in the middle of something important and for no reason what-so-ever: "PWNED! YOU MUST RESTART COMPUTER! I HATE YOU! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!"

Then everything is lost and you have to start again.

This happens to me a few times a day, at least. Damn Vista gets me everytime :rant:

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Except it did not work with most of the installed printer base. HP color inkjets come to mind. They will work now... but at release, you needed a 900 series or newer or your HP deskjet would not work. USB drivers were crap.

you can still find hundreds of articles about the release of XP and the havoc it caused.

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I've been using a brand-new computer with Vista on it for about a month now.

I'm not having any headache-causing problems for the most part. My HP 932 printer works fine with it, but I haven't tried any of my other peripherals yet. That will mostly mean my scanner, as my old HP Laserjet 5P alas won't hook up to this PC because it no longer has serial or parallel ports. so I gotta get a new laser printer.

The only f-ed up problem I've had so far was installing a program. When it brought up the window to register, no matter which option I picked, it told me I didn't have the right to do that as I wasn't an administrator... Ummm... yes, my main account - at the time, my ONLY account - was set-up with admin privileges. Numerous tries didn't fix it, until I created an administrator account actually NAMED "Administrator1". Then, it worked. That's a major "Duh" I find massively stupid.

Otherwise, I'm liking it muchly.

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No, you need a parallel to USB convertor. They sell for anywhere from $20 to $50. Cheaper than a new printer.

Why didn't you log in as Administrator?

When I set-up the computer, I didn't bother setting up separate accounts on here. You can click a box to assign admin privileges to whatever account you wish. The account may be named "Camille", but it's still an admin account.

It doesn't have any different privileges set-up than the admin one.

As for the printer, the Laser5 was on it's last legs anyway. I really need a new one, and have been thinking about getting one for a year or more now. I've never had a brand-new laser.

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um, there is a hidden Administrator account. It's turned off by default because if you log in using that account... ALL security is turned off.

Admin accounts that you create do NOT have full admin privileges nor can you give any account full admin privileges. Full privileges are reserved for the Administrator account.

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i remember when i had windows 3.1

you want to talk about buggy

what about good old doss"hell"

back before we had these nifty little os that let us drag and drop we needed to know entire command line chains to run commander keen!

damn right i brought up commander keen!

any ways

when 98 came out

i had 95 for about 2 years before switching

and mind you I LOVED windows 98 after we let them work out the bugs before buying it

we didnt intentionally deal with me

we got a free computer from ford in 2000 and it had me on it

me was a joke a complete joke we had to totally wipe the thing out just to downgrade it to 98

i probably waited a year to get xp im find with it altho i do wish it had a better layout i hate it i want to customize EVERYTHING and get rid of the window icon in the start menu itself

ill prolly wait a year to pick up vista

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vista is definatly not as bad as ME

TRUST ME

occasionaly i get an ME system still running i have to sort out and it is loathsome.

vista has a lot of potential, i like its user interface, i like how quick menus run in it, its optomiised for usability, but benchmarkwise, it suffers on applications.

as 80% of my computer use is process heavy i'm taking advantage of XP on a dual boot

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I know this is going to get me flamed.... but I have read a few comparrisions... Leapord hs more issues than Vista... but noone seems to care.

Leopard doesn't have a lot of issues. I've read the comparisons too... by PC magazines or third party sources... not Mac media. Everything I read said Leopard pretty much wipes the floor with Vista. It has a some noisy people unhappy about cosmetic stuff. And a bunch of third party software that need updates - which are happening a lot quicker then t Vista updates seem to be. I installed it on my laptop and have exactly one problem in a mixed computer networked environment. One printer driver needs updating. I've tried my parents Vista laptop. Bleh. Vista gets in the way too much.

Flame on back. I like what I'm using. :thumbsup:

PS. I'll try and dig up some of those articles so you don't think I'm blowing smoke up your ass...

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Mark... You might like this one. It talks about a lot of the underhood stuff:

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/1

Others:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/27/leopard...chart-showdown/

http://www.laptopmag.com/Features/Leopard-vs-Vista.htm

Personally... I hope OSX stays under 10% market share so it largely stays off of hackers radar and keeps the hardware proprietary. I prefer the stability, security and reliability that come along for the ride in that environment.

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