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sometimes i wonder why people have to judge you by the way you dress and have fun ; instead of by your actions. I really get annoyed by stereotypes and hypocryts. There is nothing wrong with being yourself and enjoying it. Along time ago back in the early eighties: I used to follow the crowd and do the top fourty garbage: but then one day I started to explore music that was not played on the radio and found out what I was missing. It was the best thing I ever did in my life! when I started following my own path: alot of people started looking at me stupid as if I did something wrong: oh well. I basically have made better friends underground than in real world! maybe people will someday realize that goths are the real pioneers of the underground movement! IN GOTH WE TRUST!

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parents really need to make tolerance of others diffrneces a prioiry to teach to there children, as well as teach there children to be an indiviual. THats how this crap starts its is a revovling cycle of ignorance.

lilith

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that is true but look at it from other parents point of view, I know at my sisters school that the "goth" kids start a lot of trouble. Maybe this trouble is born out of being judged but the trench coat kids don't do alot to sway peoples opinions.

I went to taco bell last night and some of them were being loud and throwing stuff.

Stereotypes exist for a reason. Sure you or I or whoever might like to wear black, listen to Ministry and are good people.....but there are enough idiots to skew peoples opinions of "goths".

i'm just trying to tell you where the judgers are coming from.

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that is true but look at it from other parents point of view, I know at my sisters school that the "goth" kids start a lot of trouble.  Maybe this trouble is born out of being judged but the trench coat kids don't do alot to sway peoples opinions. 

I went to taco bell last night and some of them were being loud and throwing stuff.

Stereotypes exist for a reason.  Sure you or I or whoever might like to wear black, listen to Ministry and are good people.....but there are enough idiots to skew peoples opinions of "goths". 

i'm just trying to tell you where the judgers are coming from.

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My husband who grew up "punk? goth? skatboarder? (what ever) was and still is a gentlemen, open doors for ladies, grabs the cans off the top shelf for the little old ladies int he grocery store etc....why?..well his mom taught him to do the right thing, be respectful helpful etc...... Well this is another thing parents need to teach there kids no matter how they dress......

I guess cause i have kids, and one who was visibaly handicapped for a long time, i think about this stuff alot, i in no way want to ever stiffle my kids indiviuality, but i also know people think us freaks are bad, so not only do i teach tolerence but i teach all my kids to be polite to every one and plain out do the right thing............

especially when my kid gets all gothed up, i allways stress the fact he better behave a hell of alot better then he normally does, i am teaching him to be his own person and break the stero types, prove himself to be a good person no matter how he looks. Get the little old lady who ran from you yesterday to start looking at you as a smart up standing young man. Brian and i broke his parnet of judgeing us freaks and now they will go to stores and look for the kids all pierced up n stuff to ask for advice on products, etc......

In the same way i see the parnets of the Judgers lacking i see the parents of the freaks who act up lacking as well. Ughhh now my mind is racing with all the crap parents do to kids that just keeps fucking this world up more..........

I did not express all that befor as i was just reponding to the being judged side.

lilith

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yeah well you are a good parent, not everyone is.

Let me put it this way: I wore a black trenchcoat to work alot and about a year ago my boss pulled me aside and asked if I really needed to wear it. He said it made some of my co-workers nervous. It sucked, at first I was offended. Now sure I was being 'judged' but after I thought about it for awhile I started to get angry at the kids who shot up those schools who wore trench coats - they were the idiots who gave trench coats a bad name!

My co-workers are guilty of judging, sure, but they were just being human. I have a shaved head (usually) I wear all black, I wore a trench coat, I listen to "weird" music.....well the only contact these people had with anyoe like me is what they saw on TV from kids who shot up the school in Colorado and Minnesota. It's shallow on their part but they can't help it, I am sure some of them were legitemately concerned I might be thinking of killing everyone there.

Lame? Yes. Understandable? Sort of.

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Heh, when I was 17 I worked in the produce department at krogers. The boss at the time hated my guts cause I didn't LOOK like he thought I should look like. He had been looking for a reason to fire me and found a really lame one, I forget why. Anyway, as a final good riddance to his ass I purposefully wore a long black trenchcoat and went barging into his office. The guy practically shit his pants, apparently he thought I had a weapon under my coat, which I didn't. He was clearly shocked when I stared him right in the eye and asked in a very sinister but polite voice, why did I get fired? He offered to hire me back as a bagboy, and I said hell no and walked out of there with a huge grin on my face. :devil

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They do exist for a reason, and usually a pretty solid reason. But it's still pretty ignorant for people to make blind assumptions based on those stereotypes. Maybe on a first-impression basis (as in, "I'm not used to being exposed to this kind of person or lifestyle, I'm a little nervous"), some trepidation is understandable, but once you get past that initial encounter, it should probably make sense to try to actually get to know someone and see if your conclusions are actually based on anything solid, or if you're just filling in blanks with your own (mis)information.

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This is something I have dealt with all my life. When I was 13 and had hair down to my waist I was told "long hair is out of style" and would get harrased by other kids at school. When I was 18 and colored my hair green I was stared and laughed at not only behind my back but to my face. When I was 23 and had put on wieght I was called fat and ugly by many people. It never seems to end. I've gotten use to it and because of a hard life have become protective of myself. You just have to realize that people that say things to hurt you are really insecure with themselves and aren't worth the energy. It can be a so called friend or a soon to be ex gf, it doesn't matter. Just stick to your guns and never let them get to you. People who are "blind" will always be blind and why spend your time trying to make someone see that you are yourself?

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I'm secure enough with myself that I could care less what other people think of me. When people point and stare at me, I smile back at the them. Usually that just either scares them or they start talking to me. I think its hilarious. The only thing that pisses me off is when they call me names to my face. I then have to remind them that I'm a grown up and will not sink to their level.

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