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yea it sucks when you think you got a good thing with someone and you find out later its fake...iam sorry to hear about your shit to man thats rough i cant imagine what would posses anyone to do that man or woman if you have some one willing to step up to the plate to be a mom or dad and all they ask is for loyalty that has to be one of the easyiest things to give one would think

Ofcourse you understand this man. Because you are a decent human being. LOL

My ex was not.

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I don't care about the fact that I'm single, I have a broad that wants me and no money to make things work.

the only point of relationships is to reproduce, often accidentally,

the planet is fucked up and people are mad stupid

...nope...this is deluded thinking my friend...I know several peoples that have been together for YEARS & have no plans to reproduce...Humans are MAMMALS...most Mammals will DIE if left alone...FACT..comradery is necessary.....amongst the couples I know that "do it right"; they are each other's BEST FRIENDS FIRST.

(ZEN shit I thought of that I came here to post)

When we love ourselves...it is easier for others to love us as well.

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...nope...this is deluded thinking my friend...I know several peoples that have been together for YEARS & have no plans to reproduce...Humans are MAMMALS...most Mammals will DIE if left alone...FACT..comradery is necessary.....amongst the couples I know that "do it right"; they are each other's BEST FRIENDS FIRST.

(ZEN shit I thought of that I came here to post)

When we love ourselves...it is easier for others to love us as well.

:bravo well said as always Rev. I'm in complete agreement.

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:bravo well said as always Rev. I'm in complete agreement.

Indeed. Reminds me of this song by Delerium:

Euphoria -

And how I've loved

And I have served

And I have sinned

but I have learnt

As long as you are true to the life that you live

This is the time to feel love

I feel a stirring deep within

Slowly picking up momentum

Like the tide coming in to shore

Over and under in it's course

This feeling emblazed inside

Every nerve like a firefly

Hovering above me, glowing

Glow, glowing, glowing, divine

Every nerve like a firefly

Every nerve like a firefly

This feeling emblazed inside

Every nerve like a firefly

I never want to lose, what I have finally found

There's a requiem, a new congregation

And it's telling me to go forward

And walk under a brighter sky

Every nerve like a firefly

Every nerve showing like a firefly

Glowing divine

Every nerve like a firefly glow

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...nope...this is deluded thinking my friend...I know several peoples that have been together for YEARS & have no plans to reproduce...Humans are MAMMALS...most Mammals will DIE if left alone...FACT..comradery is necessary.....amongst the couples I know that "do it right"; they are each other's BEST FRIENDS FIRST.

True dat. If reproduction was the only point of relationships, there would be no gay couples or hetero couples who are child-free by choice. Companionship is a basic human need... there are all kinds of studies showing that solitary people are less healthy by many different measures.

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Most solitary people have no choice,some people live a wonderful life being single and

and enjoy it as well.what kills me is the poor judgment of single people,and the false accusations about them as well,

which is bullshit.

Another thing that got old are the ones that cannot handle being single.and will do anything to be with someone,their choice

I guess.

I like being single and I will do anything to keep it that way.

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That is true about stereotypes about being single, Taco. Some of my friends and some of my family, thing I am mental crazy cause I have not walk down the isle by now, nor do I have desire to walk down the isle in the future. I even get single stereotypes from folks I don't know. I hate when some folks tell me, that I am missing out of life by not being married.

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Being single has its perks. Many of them. Being single is much better than just being with a person for the sake of "not being alone." There is value in having your own freedom. Regardless of how perfect the match is you must, by definition, give up some of yourself. I WANT to give of myself , to the right person. But, doing so for no other reason than to be in "with someone" at least for me, is ill advised. I have a lot of friends that seem to just HAVE to be in a relationship, and have one practically ready to go just in case the current one doesn't work out. Ugh. If everything else was in place, sure I'd rather be in a great relationship than not, but settling for a tolerable relationship just too not be single isn't worth it. Once you throw children into the mix though, the rules change. (Whole other story.)

I know several people that almost don't even know how to exist outside of a relationship. Try it out. You might *gasp* actually like it. But, its only a real test once your WELL out and free and not pining over the loss. Otherwise the objectivity isn't there and you'll just go with the cultural peer pressure / knee jerk sadness.

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Most solitary people have no choice,some people live a wonderful life being single and

and enjoy it as well.what kills me is the poor judgment of single people,and the false accusations about them as well,

which is bullshit.

Another thing that got old are the ones that cannot handle being single.and will do anything to be with someone,their choice

I guess.

I like being single and I will do anything to keep it that way.

I should prolly clarify, by "solitary" I don't mean people who choose to live without a mate, but those who have few or no close relationships of any kind with others. IMHO it's definitely better to be single than to settle for anyone who happens by just to avoid being "alone"... everyone needs to learn to be secure & content in their own company.

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IMHO it's definitely better to be single than to settle for anyone who happens by just to avoid being "alone"... everyone needs to learn to be secure & content in their own company.

true, but after a point, one's own company is no longer enough and life becomes a hollow shell, bereft of joy and happiness. times like those are when just avoiding being alone seems a welcome distraction.

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true, but after a point, one's own company is no longer enough and life becomes a hollow shell, bereft of joy and happiness. times like those are when just avoiding being alone seems a welcome distraction.

But you do not need that type of relationship to have company and joy. I have spent much time out of that type of a relationship. I keep very socially active and seek out things I enjoy whether I will go alone or not. When I go alone, I end up meeting people with similar interests. I have had plenty of great company, have felt very fulfilled and not hollow, never really felt lonely, and quite frankly, have enjoyed it immensely. Life has a lot to offer, but it is also short. Do not let something like not yet finding someone good enough to deserve you, keep you form enjoying it. There is not time to waste with that.

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true, but after a point, one's own company is no longer enough and life becomes a hollow shell, bereft of joy and happiness. times like those are when just avoiding being alone seems a welcome distraction.

Despite my tough talk above, I can totally empathize. But so far, I've managed to come out of such feelings without the replacement relationship. Which usually would come well after, when I wasn't really looking for it. I know when you are in the throws of the feelings, all the rationalizing and "cheer up skipper" type talk in the world doesn't really seem to work. (Although it is very nice of people to try and help. Almost ANY distraction is better than just being stuck in the muck. I know our conversations run long, but if you have any interest at all in chatting, feel free to call me. I don't have the rural bike ride and Redwing Blackbird sighting option (added later: oops sorry about the obscure Zen & Motorcycle Maintenance reference) , but I can just STFU and listen.

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Life has a lot to offer, but it is also short. Do not let something like not yet finding someone good enough to deserve you, keep you form enjoying it. There is not time to waste with that.

not short enough - and so one spends the next 40 years "enjoying life" and never finds someone, and one day they're lying on their death bed with absolutely noone around them... doesn't that seem a little hollow to anyone? so for example, i'm sitting there doing something, enjoying it, and then i turn and say, "hey, cat, isn't this cool!? what's that? 'meow'!? I don't get it, what are you saying... 'meow'? no, that's not what i... oh, nevermind."

seriously, what's the point of enjoying life if it's not to be shared with another? what's the point of doing anything if the only thing you have to share the experience with is a wall?

i don't get it. i really don't.

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not short enough - and so one spends the next 40 years "enjoying life" and never finds someone, and one day they're lying on their death bed with absolutely noone around them... doesn't that seem a little hollow to anyone? so for example, i'm sitting there doing something, enjoying it, and then i turn and say, "hey, cat, isn't this cool!? what's that? 'meow'!? I don't get it, what are you saying... 'meow'? no, that's not what i... oh, nevermind."

seriously, what's the point of enjoying life if it's not to be shared with another? what's the point of doing anything if the only thing you have to share the experience with is a wall?

i don't get it. i really don't.

And this pretty much sums up why I am not liking the single life thing. I don't even have a pet around to offer a meow, a bark, or the bubbles of the air stone in the aquarium.

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When?

You've never heard of a dog dieing 'cause another dog died?

...why do they keep at least 2 elephants at a zoo?

...pandas...koalas...it goes on & on...you'll never see 1 dolphin (or maybe you'll see 1 very lost dolphin)...

..this IS recorded by -ologists from several different fields that intersect.

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not short enough - and so one spends the next 40 years "enjoying life" and never finds someone, and one day they're lying on their death bed with absolutely noone around them... doesn't that seem a little hollow to anyone? so for example, i'm sitting there doing something, enjoying it, and then i turn and say, "hey, cat, isn't this cool!? what's that? 'meow'!? I don't get it, what are you saying... 'meow'? no, that's not what i... oh, nevermind."

seriously, what's the point of enjoying life if it's not to be shared with another? what's the point of doing anything if the only thing you have to share the experience with is a wall?

i don't get it. i really don't.

you see, i can't stand this kind of attitude - this is the kind of negativity that becomes self-fulfilling, and just spirals down out of control into depression. so why is it, then, that it makes so much sense? and if it makes so much sense, how does one get away from that kind of thinking?

life is frustrating...

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you see, i can't stand this kind of attitude - this is the kind of negativity that becomes self-fulfilling, and just spirals down out of control into depression. so why is it, then, that it makes so much sense? and if it makes so much sense, how does one get away from that kind of thinking?

life is frustrating... :yes It will be with a positive attitude as well...

Start making POSITIVE self-fullfilling-prophesys...? :p

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