Too Tattooed To Work?

[Hellion]

I have 3, working on getting a few more,but yeah at work over half of the employees have tattoos even my boss and no one there really cares since our shop is very very liberal on alot of thjings like this.the only two things they dont like there, are bible thumpers and supporters of Bush,which is fine with me

[sass_in_the_pants]

On donating blood:

HW can answer this for sure, but I remember when I was over there the rules for donating blood were indeed different than here.

There is also a waiting period after a piercing - I think it's also 12 months.

There are lots of other things that disallow you from donating blood, one of them, interestingly, is having been in the British Isles for a specific period of time (don't remember the period) - the Red Cross still has some concern about mad cow.

If you CAN donate, please do. You are eligible to donate every 58 days.

Now that I'm thinking about it...THIS crowd, of any crowd, should have a blood drive. I mean, how goth is blood, right?

[bean]

There is a time and a place for everything. Some situations are just not appropriate for tattoos. There are events that I've gone to where I knew there was no place for my ink, so I wore clothing that covered it up. No big deal.

The no tattoo policy doesn't quite make sense where I work because I don't personally interact with clients, but when I'm a therapist, I will be covering them up. I don't want clients knowing about me or my personal life, or trying to escape talking about their problems by asking me questions about my tattoos.

I agree with what Sass wrote about looking the part for her job. There are certain types of jobs that have standards for appearances because of the type of work it is and people's perceptions.

Whether we want to admit to it or not, people are judgmental and we do have certain perceptions about things.

[Head Wreck]

your quite right, 12 months it is

You may not be eligible to give blood if:

* You are pregnant or have recently been pregnant. Please wait at least one week for every completed week of your pregnancy before offering to donate.

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* If you have a job such as driving an HGV (over 7,500 kgs), PSV or for the emergency services, you should not offer to give blood just before going on duty or while on duty.

* In the past 6 months have you had any surgery or an examination with a flexible endoscope (magic eye)?

You should not give blood if it could transmit an infection to anyone who might receive it such as:

* If you have ever injected illegal or non-prescribed drugs including body building drugs, even if it was a long time ago or only once.

* If your lifestyle puts you at risk of infection with HIV, or hepatitis B or C, or if you are HIV positive or carry the Hepatitis B or C virus. Why we ask men who have sex with other men not to donate blood - Click here for more information.

* If you have had any piercing to your face or body, a tattoo or cosmetic treatment that involved piercing the skin within the previous 12 months.

* If you have received a transfusion since 1 January 1980, or have had a tissue or organ transplant and needed to take drugs to suppress your immune system.

[anametamystik]

On donating blood:

HW can answer this for sure, but I remember when I was over there the rules for donating blood were indeed different than here.

There is also a waiting period after a piercing - I think it's also 12 months.

There are lots of other things that disallow you from donating blood, one of them, interestingly, is having been in the British Isles for a specific period of time (don't remember the period) - the Red Cross still has some concern about mad cow.

If you CAN donate, please do. You are eligible to donate every 58 days.

Now that I'm thinking about it...THIS crowd, of any crowd, should have a blood drive. I mean, how goth is blood, right?

And this is why I will never donate blood. I don't go more than maybe three months at most between each play piercing, permanent piercing, scarification, heavy mods or suspension/flesh pull event that would disqualify me from donating blood. I personally find that I've yet to be inked even once to be most amusing.

As for appropriate tattoo designs, there are a very limited set of designs (almost entirely Nazi symbols) that in my opinion should not ever be visible, and if they are, steganography should be used. Something like hxxp://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/09/03/medic-alert-tattoos/ (caution, may not be entirely worksafe) would probably be beyond scrutiny.

I know the day will come where I will be working a 9-5 in a corporate office with my name banner highly visible on my sternum since my first name ("KRYSTINE") is relatively difficult to remember (hence the subliminal reminder in the form of a chest piece). I can only hope that a tastefully designed, creative yet elegant piece that would serve a practical purpose would be overlooked once it's finally inked.

In regards to facial tattoos and billboards, just because a few have "golden palace" tattoos on their foreheads does not mean that all facial tattoos are billboards.

As for piercings, I would not want to work for any company that objected to my bridge piercings. I'll eventually take them out for personal reasons, but for now, they're part of me.

[freydis]

At the moment, i have nothing i cant dye over or cover up.

[Head Wreck]

on employment front, thats what put me off before i became a regular donor.

something with hot rods, flames and bettie page

[ManicQueen]

Tattoo's have been around longer then almost everything so why aren't they accepted yet?

[Head Wreck]

stigmatism from up until very recently, people who wore tattoos were generally the rough sort, ted's, rockers, etc.

its the same on our attitudes to public decency, a hangup from the Victorian era of prudity. (speaking as possibly one of the biggest prudes here)

[Vater Araignee]

Tattoo's have been around longer then almost everything so why aren't they accepted yet?

Because judaic based cultures as a whole like to view them as primitive, barbaric and or paganistic.

[sass_in_the_pants]

Tattoo's have been around longer then almost everything so why aren't they accepted yet?

So has sex. That doesn't mean people want to see you having it at work.

stigmatism from up until very recently, people who wore tattoos were generally the rough sort, ted's, rockers, etc.

its the same on our attitudes to public decency, a hangup from the Victorian era of prudity. (speaking as possibly one of the biggest prudes here)

Because judaic based cultures as a whole like to view them as primitive, barbaric and or paganistic.

See, I kinda don't think so. My grandpa has tattoos. My grandpa. He's so old he played stickball with Jesus. And he's Catholic. And Republican. And a prude. He owned his own business for about forty years before he retired. And in that forty years, though his tattoos were on his upper and lower arms, he never, never, in forty years wore a shirt to work which would show his tattoos. It's just not professional. I mean, if you own your own business, and the amount of money you make is SOLELY determined by how many customers you can get, would you do ANYTHING EVER to risk losing even one? What if your tattoos DO offend a customer? That is YOUR problem, not the customer's, because now YOUR check is smaller, and that customer just went somewhere else, no worries for them. And in his forty years of owning a business, he hired many men, and some women, who had tattoos. He never saw them at work. So he didn't care.

And let's see, I have two great uncles, three regular uncles, a mother-in-law, several aunties and my brother-in-law (who's in a band at his christian revival church) who all have tattoos. All are judeo-christian. All would consider themselves prudes (except my aunt Gertie, who thinks she's wild and crazy).

And what the heck is a ted anyway?

[Vater Araignee]

Sass,

You obviously missed the qualifier in my statement "as a whole" it has nothing to do with a few progressive individuals.

The individual is not a judaic based culture, the town, county, state or country are all very small parts of the whole.

Christians are just a part of judaic based culture as are the Jews and Muslims.

Siting a few people offers no proof contrary to fact.

[Rev.Reverence]

Sass,

You obviously missed the qualifier in my statement "as a whole" it has nothing to do with a few progressive individuals.

The individual is not a judaic based culture, the town, county, state or country are all very small parts of the whole.

Christians are just a part of judaic based culture as are the Jews and Muslims.

Siting a few people offers no proof contrary to fact.

& it's ONE little mis-interperated Law in the Tora that people are clinging to...

..After the death of a loved one do not cut mark your skin...

This is a direct command to stop cutting the forearm to put dead people's ashes under your skin...

Furthermore...we should (as a society) stop referring to Swastikas as a "Nazi" symbol...it is really alott older than that...and a creative/healative symbol.

[Head Wreck]

swastika is a vadic symbol. but even hey now use alternatives. half of my get up now is designed around alternatives now.

[sass_in_the_pants]

Sass,

You obviously missed the qualifier in my statement "as a whole" it has nothing to do with a few progressive individuals.

The individual is not a judaic based culture, the town, county, state or country are all very small parts of the whole.

Christians are just a part of judaic based culture as are the Jews and Muslims.

Siting a few people offers no proof contrary to fact.

I guess I just don't consider gramps to be all that progressive.

He wears plaid pants.

He plays bridge.

I guess it's just that when I think of what the typical uptight stody old person is, it's him. When I think of a 'typical' representative of the Judeo-Christian culture, it's him.

Maybe some people are somehow morally opposed to tattoos. I just find it hard to believe I don't know any.

I'm very stodgy and uptight you know. You'd think in my circle I would have encountered one person who is morally opposed to them.

Man, is gramps gonna be mad when I tell him someone thought he was progressive.

[Michiko_Dreads]

Yeah. I might have to become a blood donor too cuz Iwant to live in Japan but I got facial peircings and a tatt. Gosh the world suckz.

[Vater Araignee]

& it's ONE little mis-interperated Law in the Tora that people are clinging to...

Fact is, no matter how little the lay was they still cling so in large numbers.

Furthermore...we should (as a society) stop referring to Swastikas as a "Nazi" symbol...it is really alott older than that...and a creative/healative symbol.

Actually it is an inversion of your mentioned symbol and there by rendering it a destructive symbol.

I guess I just don't consider gramps to be all that progressive.

He wears plaid pants.

He plays bridge.

I guess it's just that when I think of what the typical uptight stody old person is, it's him. When I think of a 'typical' representative of the Judeo-Christian culture, it's him.

Maybe some people are somehow morally opposed to tattoos. I just find it hard to believe I don't know any.

I'm very stodgy and uptight you know. You'd think in my circle I would have encountered one person who is morally opposed to them.

Man, is gramps gonna be mad when I tell him someone thought he was progressive.

Well my fathers parents where Roman Catholic. My father converted to Lutheranism an the army. He married a Baptist that was the child of Southern Baptists who was unfortunately converted to wicca by me when I was 22 and wont listen to me now. Only my grandmothers accepted me for what I was and most of my family despises me for what I currently have become. Hell I over heard an uncle say he would rather I be a satanist because they don't claim JHVH is satin, but I digress.

What I'm trying to get at is, though my search I have basically been forced to boil things down into whole to make defending my self simpler, thats why I say judaic based and not Cristian, Jew or Muslim....

Ya know what I just realized that I'm still having problem formulating a coherent thought, so just disregard that stuff.

If you take the judaic base as a whole then a lot of those in western society are progressive.

[Goth Brooks]

Actually it is an inversion of your mentioned symbol and there by rendering it a destructive symbol.

No, it's not.

[xbittergracex]

Just an FYI about the blood donor thing. Its 12 months in MICHIGAN (and I think New York...maybe a couple other states) NOT because of the sterilized needles....most people use sterilized needles now, its the ink. I talked to this lady at the red cross just about 2 weeks ago. She said that Michigan was just one of a couple/few states that hasn't regulated the ink. Other states require that any ink left over (that the needle has been dipped into) be thrown away. Michigan does not. And this is where the diseases etc. that they are worried about grow...

Just thought I'd throw that in there. Kinda gross.

[Vater Araignee]

No, it's not.

Oh so basicaly what you are saying is that the chapter SYMBOLOGIE¹ in Unsere Wahrheit (hinter unseren lügen)² is out right lying?

1. SYMBOLOGIE = Symbology

2. Unsere Wahrheit (hinter unseren lügen) = Our Truth (behind our lies)

Or is it simply that the Hitler channel is spewing its usual disinformation?

[Rev.Reverence]

Actually it is an inversion of your mentioned symbol and there by rendering it a destructive symbol.

But the social stigmata remains on the original...

[Vater Araignee]

But the social stigmata remains on the original...

True, but the only way to change the view is to educate and convince the world, that ain't happenin.

Or we could all just forget, but you know what they say about forgetting history.

[Goth Brooks]

Oh so basicaly what you are saying is that the chapter SYMBOLOGIE¹ in Unsere Wahrheit (hinter unseren lügen)² is out right lying?

1. SYMBOLOGIE = Symbology

2. Unsere Wahrheit (hinter unseren lügen) = Our Truth (behind our lies)

Or is it simply that the Hitler channel is spewing its usual disinformation?

Basically what I'm saying is, it's not.

[Head Wreck]

not inverted Vater. Brooks is indeed right on this, as this topic has come up in conversation with my friend, a Brahmen

[torn asunder]

Totally off topic... But damn... she's cute!!

it's funny - that's the first thing that went thru my mind, too!