hunhee Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Sometimes guys tend to fall for a girl who is out TOTALLY of their league, and suffer for it. Guys have this problem of putting a woman up on a pedestal because she is beautiful-- and setting themselves up for that inevitable fall. I agree with most of your post.. except that part i left up there *points* I don't believe ANYONE is out of ANYONE's league.. Who created this league thingie, and can I kick them in the balls? I believe some people just aren't other people's TYPE, but never EVER think that you are beneath someone. That's already right there, a self defeating attitude, and will make you settle. Nothing is worse than settling for something because you don't THINK that you are worthy. That's all bullshit! I don't think it's so much "nice guys finish last" as "guys who lack confidence finish last". If you don't sell yourself no one else will want to either. Now that's some good postage.. OH and a good friend of mine told me that my last post was my nativity talking, could be, I have dated very VERY few people in my life.. Most of the guys that I talk to/hang with I pretty much find attractive in some way, or appealing in some way. If all the stars aligned the right way, maybe, just maybe, things could work. BUT this is a LOT Of maybes .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanuki1985 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 "but not afraid to come up and slug me like I'm one of the guys" thats the one thing i never understood about my own gender, lets slightly hit people as a symbol of friendship.... as if the common handshake these days (is this done anywhere but detroit) was enough. i never did that for some odd reason *Cracks Msterbeau's and Chernobyl's skulls together* WHAT'S GOIN ON FUCKERS?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 *Cracks Msterbeau's and Chernobyl's skulls together* WHAT'S GOIN ON FUCKERS?!?!?!?! GONAD KICK! OHHH YEAH DOWN FOR THE COUNT! Don't make me pull out my crazy Dragon Ball Z shit and get super saiyan up in this hizo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunhee Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 More to the point, people are drama-seeking machines. The word "drama" has sort of been mutated in our generation to only mean "Jerry Springer, babydaddy, red neck fight on the sidewalk, drunken screaming encounter at city club" type bullshit. But one forgets that intrigue is also drama as well. And so, if a girl stands before a guy who is courting her and can only see an infinite pattern of "movie night-cuddling-sex-movie night-cuddling-sex-movie night-cuddling-sex..." they will get bored long before you even pop in your copy of "V For Vendetta" into your DVD player for the first time. They can smell your DVD collection on you, I swear.That may be a little too specific, but I think a bit more helpful than the axiom "people are masochists". Or my favorite, "sadists are just masochists who follow the Golden Rule". Nice post. +2 for style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msterbeau Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 *Cracks Msterbeau's and Chernobyl's skulls together* WHAT'S GOIN ON FUCKERS?!?!?!?! Nuthin you need to know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Of course nice guys finish last... only a jerk would finish first and then roll over and go to sleep.... jeez, I mean I always finish last so that I am sure she is satisfied completely and.... wait.... maybe thats not what were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aequorea Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Of course nice guys finish last... only a jerk would finish first and then roll over and go to sleep.... jeez, I mean I always finish last so that I am sure she is satisfied completely and.... wait.... maybe thats not what were talking about. THANK YOU!!! i have been thinking that every time i look at this thread, and giggling to myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 more and more each year it seems like girls are going for looks and bad asses. then complaining that they are in a horrible relationship yet there best friend is there or just a friend saying i told you so. through most of my years i am the friend that warns the girl not to date the guy he will break your heart while having a crush on the girl and she dates the guy and then comes crying to me.any one have any stories or is the statement nice guys finish last false? I like to think I'm a nice guy...I am not in last place...{I can make a list..mater of fact} I'm NOT reading this drivel that my freinds are typing...SORRY GUYS...(your right no i'm not)... CHANGE is the one of few constants in this world... In all things there is a balance...I'm sure everyone is saying..."just be yourself"..."you'll find happiness"... FUCK THAT SHIT!...It's operating under broken logic...If you are not scoring the kinds of chicks you want...maybe you should change a bit ... so YOU like YOU! ..seems to me that you've a touch of jealousy on these heart breakers...STOP IT! .....That is not the direction you want to grow in... Make a list of the things you like about yourself...and the things you dislike about yourself... Also make a list of the things you dislike about these heart breaker types...{this is your "do not do" list} PM me if you would like help in this arena...if you want it be different...you have to want to change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
know_buddy_kares Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Women seem to have a natural desire for losers. I do not understand it. I have had (wait, scratch that, I STILL have) many friends involved with total douchebags. It's so frustrating when you beg her to dump the guy, then you still see them together. Trust me, they don't only go crying to the nice guys -- they cry to their female friends too. It makes me sick. On the flipside, however, I have also known a few men involved with scummy women. This is a much more rare occurence, though. Nevertheless, it's still frustrating watching them with shitty women despite all the advice you give, but hell, these guys can ruin their lives if they want to. Why should I care? just a few minor adjustments to this if you don't mind? Because you're hitting the nail dead on as it is but.. women aren't attracted to loosers, little girls are. Now what I honestly would LOVE to see happen.. take these girls in that situation of mindlessly going to that asshole and crying about it, if everyone she could ever possibly cry to about it would cut her off and say the same then, "dump his ass or shut the fuck up" and refuse to give her the pity she desires... I think it would actually straighten them out to be honest. It would make them grow up, or just go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Women seem to have a natural desire for losers. I do not understand it. I have had (wait, scratch that, I STILL have) many friends involved with total douchebags. It's so frustrating when you beg her to dump the guy, then you still see them together. Trust me, they don't only go crying to the nice guys -- they cry to their female friends too. It makes me sick. Psssht the few female friends I have know better than to come crying to me for frivolous bullshit (i.e. any time you cry where someone isn't dead or dying = frivolous to me). Last one I had that did got my shoe up her baby-maker. OKAYYY...I'm not THAT brutal and that never actually happened...but I did have the desire to kick her in the cooch. I REALLY wanted to...sincerely. Those people I just eventually stop talking to because life is too short for me to have to comfort emotional girls 24/7. So when I do run across one of these "sob stories" (I use quotes because it's ALWAYS some stupid bullshit that even most five year olds would be more mature than to cry about) I ex-communicate them from my life, warn all the guys I know not to date her and to pass on the message. Then we all just steer clear of the craziness. I've never had a guy come crying to me about anything because well...guys are awesome, most guys don't do that. SO...if you're a girl who is friends with me and value our friendship...do not ruin it by crying about stupid drama queen attention whore bullshit. Kthnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
know_buddy_kares Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 At 27 and still only in a relationship... however this is really seriously going somewhere between me and her I won't say we finish last.. look at the jerkasses.. they can get it, but they can't ever keep it for good. Me on the other hand, I'm glad I waited the 27 years, dealt with some trash girls myself, because it really woke up my eyes to the shit that's out there so now that I do have someone really awsome, I can truely apreciate and cherish what I have so much more than I ever could without this experience under my belt. I didn't finish last, I got first fucking place with who I'm with. I had alot of hard times getting girls at first, then i had a hard time with only being able to pull the insane ones.. try as I might I didn't give up or give in.. and in the last 4 years I held out, never giving all of my heart or even close to 1/16th of it to anyone until now. It wasn't a race to me anymore, It was simply a steady paced quest to find the one that's good for me. I'm glad I held out.. I'm so fucking glad I held out too.. because I would never give her up for anyone else, or anything. And that's what matters, figuring out the difference between the scum and the decent, no matter what sex you are, or what sex you're pulling to get. Learn the ability to recognize and separate the good from the scum, and avoid the scum. Once you do that... heh, well it's only a matter of time before you find him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh_My_Goth Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 There is such a thing as too nice.....That is called a push over..... Male or female, the pushover will always get walked on..... I have broken up with the 'push over' guy many times, mainly because I do not want to be with somebody that does not respect themselves enough to stand up for what they believe in..... In order to be happy with another person, you must first be happy with you..... You must find out what makes you happy, then, and only then, will you be able to have a healthy relationship..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanuki1985 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 just a few minor adjustments to this if you don't mind? Because you're hitting the nail dead on as it is but.. women aren't attracted to loosers, little girls are. Very true, thanks for adjusting that. Cher, I don't bother with those people either. I am a supportive friend, but damn, when they come to me with the same BS over and over, I ignore them. I've known people who are always trying to use others as free psychologists, including myself. I actually listened to them the first couple times and gave them very good advice, only to have them ignore me and keep coming to me with their "woe is me" stories. Nowadays, I choose to simply ignore them. I let them bitch, but I sit there and ignore it. People seem to think they're stuck in shitty situations, but they are NOT. Hell, even if you have a kid with the boyfriend/girlfriend in question, you're not "stuck" with them, as this is not the ultra-conservative 1950's anymore. Times have changed, people. Get with the program or do us a favor and cut your testicles or uterus out so we don't have to worry about people like you polluting the earth with your genes. /end rant KBK and Cher, the three of us seem to think so alike that it's almost creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
know_buddy_kares Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 haha don't get creeped, I've known cher long enough to know she's got plenty of life wisdom to throw her 2 cents in as hard as she wants... we're so common because we have climbed the ladder, ran the rase, burned by love, only to realize it's not finishing last. We know what we're talking about and we're all right on this, wich is exactly why we say almost the exact same thing only in slightly different wording... I see a cash cow in this.. the three of us (along with a few other people who gave some sagely advice on here) should sit down and write a universal guide to dating... With all 3 of our strong style's of writing moving words.. we'll make a fucking cash cow and a half!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Very true, thanks for adjusting that. Cher, I don't bother with those people either. I am a supportive friend, but damn, when they come to me with the same BS over and over, I ignore them. I have two friends in particular who are always trying to use me as a free psychologist. I actually listened to them the first couple times and gave them very good advice, only to have them ignore me and keep coming to me with their "woe is me" stories. Nowadays, I choose to simply ignore them. I let them bitch, but I sit there and ignore it. People seem to think they're STUCK in shitty situations, but they are NOT. Hell, even if you have a kid with the boyfriend/girlfriend in question, you're not "stuck" with them, as this is not the ultra-conservative 1950's anymore. Times have changed, people. Get with the program or do us a favor and cut your testicles or uterus out so we don't have to worry about people like you polluting the earth with your genes. /end rant KBK and Cher, the three of us seem to think so alike that it's almost creepy. Pssht...ignore is not in my vocabulary in those instances. If someone comes up to me with a wussy sob story and it's something so stupid and mundane they shouldn't have let it left their mouths - I tear them DOWN. Hard. I let them know they're A) Fucking ridiculous B) Are a loser C) Are a totally pussy and D) That they need to cut it out because nobody cares about their sob "woe is me" shit, not even God. Sometimes it works...with some people the only way to get across to them is harshness. It's like with little kids...if you're nice to them or nice about whatever you're trying to address, they walk all over you and don't take you seriously. If you're stern, harsh, and truthful with them then they get the point. Even if said individual "does not get it" after all that...at least I made them feel shitty about themselves. Hey, imo, it's a perfect trade off because drama queens really should be DISCOURAGED not ENCOURAGED, by making them feel shitty about being a whiny bratty bitch...you're getting one step closer to discouragement. If you outrightly ignore the problem it may make them think that you're actually listening...therefore encouraging said behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 haha don't get creeped, I've known cher long enough to know she's got plenty of life wisdom to throw her 2 cents in as hard as she wants... we're so common because we have climbed the ladder, ran the rase, burned by love, only to realize it's not finishing last. We know what we're talking about and we're all right on this, wich is exactly why we say almost the exact same thing only in slightly different wording...I see a cash cow in this.. the three of us (along with a few other people who gave some sagely advice on here) should sit down and write a universal guide to dating... With all 3 of our strong style's of writing moving words.. we'll make a fucking cash cow and a half!! RIGHT ON! *sucker punches in eye socket* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
know_buddy_kares Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hey cher..... CUNT PUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanuki1985 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 haha don't get creeped, I've known cher long enough to know she's got plenty of life wisdom to throw her 2 cents in as hard as she wants... we're so common because we have climbed the ladder, ran the rase, burned by love, only to realize it's not finishing last. We know what we're talking about and we're all right on this, wich is exactly why we say almost the exact same thing only in slightly different wording...I see a cash cow in this.. the three of us (along with a few other people who gave some sagely advice on here) should sit down and write a universal guide to dating... With all 3 of our strong style's of writing moving words.. we'll make a fucking cash cow and a half!! Now that's an idea! The weird thing is that I have only had a couple "serious" boyfriends in my lifetime. One of them lasted for a very long time (I dated him from age 12-18 1/2) and the other lasted for 3 1/2 years. The first one and I do not talk anymore, but the second one and I are still friends. I'd rather be alone than with someone who's going to treat me like dung, especially since I'm the kind of gal who will not take crap off of anyone. It just sickens me to see people are willing to settle for anyone or anything, then they bitch to me about their 100% foreseeable relationship woes. If you really need someone to cuddle that badly, then get a cat; if you really need sex that badly, then masturbate. I tell people that I'm single and not really looking, but I have not completely sworn off relationships either -- I'm simply willing to wait, no matter how long it takes, to find the right person. If I never find someone, then oh well, I'm fine with that too. No matter my situation in life, I'm happy with myself above all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
know_buddy_kares Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Now that's an idea! The weird thing is that I have only had a couple "serious" boyfriends in my lifetime. One of them lasted for a very long time (I dated him from age 12-18 1/2) and the other lasted for 3 1/2 years. The first one and I do not talk anymore, but the second one and I are still friends. I'd rather be alone than with someone who's going to treat me like dung, especially since I'm the kind of gal who will not take crap off of anyone. It just sickens me to see people are willing to settle for anyone or anything, then they bitch to me about their 100% foreseeable relationship woes. If you really need someone to cuddle that badly, then get a cat; if you really need sex that badly, then masturbate. I tell people that I'm single and not really looking, but I have not completely sworn off relationships either -- I'm simply willing to wait, no matter how long it takes, to find the right person. If I never find someone, then oh well, I'm fine with that too. No matter my situation in life, I'm happy with myself above all things. that's exactly what i was like.. not giving a shit and flirting horribly with everyone too i might add (i was not saying you were) before i realized.. hey holy shti... this girl.. and then the skies above my head parted... as angels came gently soaring down with mighty trumpets as the serephan 6 winged singing angels came down second and sang as if they were the beauty of the heavens sound themselves with, "YOU WAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNT TO BONE HER!!!!!!" heh no i just kid.. but it was sorta like that, only the message was.. dude.. you're hopelessly inlove.. admit to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Nister Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Ha! ~ That's my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torn asunder Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 actually, the name of this thread should be... "doormats finish last"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scales Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 With female physcology there seems to be a lot of evidence in the correlations between the mother-daughter relationship (which expands to include the father and parent's relationship) and how that female will act in romantic situations. I had very strong feelings for a girl with a messed-up family life and upbringing combined with a lot of parental reinforcement of negative values, and I went through a lot of shit for it which has helped teach me to always keep high standards whether than becoming unhappy or a doormat. If a chick doesn't click with me or isn't up to my standards, I'll be friends with her, but that's the extent of her involvement in my life. Unless she's a huge bitch, then the friendship thing will probably go out the window. Whatever gender you are though.. it's a matter of you standing up for yourself, your beliefs, and not sacrificing your happiness for short term happiness and emotional baggage. It's worth waiting for someone who's worth the time, because giving time to immaturity will only get you experience in what kind of pain it causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morbid Side Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Nice guys who are first in line end up last. I wish I was Ash from Evil Dead, wielding a boomstick. Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun. There is nothing wrong with being an asshole, but able to keep it in check. I cannot speak for every guy out there, but guys who open doors, pull out seats, common chivalry is not totally dead. Just sometimes I think some girls flock to the bad boys since they don't always play by the rules and the good boys are often to soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandywine0880 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Oh now now every "good" guy has a bit of sleaze in him. There was this one dude who had gone through a divorce, had the kid, and seemed so emotional and needy and ...tender. Shortly after we started hanging out I realized he had like a ton of ho's on the side. And I found out me and the harem of ho's all shared the same endearments, sweet nothings being said. Not just girl "friends" but he was giving them all his stick too. I would've never imagined him to be such a man~whore. I gotta give him credit for being so damn smooth about it, what a bastard! Sorry I used "ho" so much. It just seemed fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
know_buddy_kares Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 recently divorced guys typically do that... it's psychological to get over the hurt of what was supposed to be forever leaving them dry. As for people who play by their own rules, more power to them!!! That's how I do it. This is Vampyro's world, accept it or gtfo. that's pretty much my mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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