Is Love blind? or bi-polar?

[asphyxian_doll]

It seems to me, that a lot of people i know, don't know what they want.

Or they DO and its so unrealistic, that you just want to slap them upside the feckin head!

My point here is.....is love really blind?

or feckin bi-polar?

I know of instances where someone "claims" they are in LOVE and will never let the person go...

But then that self doubt, insecurity, and distrust plays in.....shit happens and they break up!

bi-polar much?

If love is blind, then it should be able to overcome these things....but in my honest opinion...i don't think the majority of people in AMERICA let alone this PLANET really know, or have felt true, unconditional love....

Its a sad thing to think about, and id like some opinions on it.

Am i wrong? and I would love to know if i am....

set this in retrospect.

[Enishi]

I think people have a vision of the ideal mate in their heads, and when they find someone who merely conforms at a superficial level to said image, they're so desperate that they convince themselves that person is "THE ONE". They can't look at things objectively once that happens, because admitting the person they thought they knew is someone else entirely would be devastating and humiliating for them.

[SaGa]

It seems to me, that a lot of people i know, don't know what they want.

Or they DO and its so unrealistic, that you just want to slap them upside the feckin head!

My point here is.....is love really blind?

or feckin bi-polar?

I know of instances where someone "claims" they are in LOVE and will never let the person go...

But then that self doubt, insecurity, and distrust plays in.....shit happens and they break up!

bi-polar much?

If love is blind, then it should be able to overcome these things....but in my honest opinion...i don't think the majority of people in AMERICA let alone this PLANET really know, or have felt true, unconditional love....

Its a sad thing to think about, and id like some opinions on it.

Am i wrong? and I would love to know if i am....

set this in retrospect.

the mind dont see what the heart sees. somehow can hate somone yet love them, or cant let go of the past memories

[asphyxian_doll]

I think people have a vision of the ideal mate in their heads, and when they find someone who merely conforms at a superficial level to said image, they're so desperate that they convince themselves that person is "THE ONE". They can't look at things objectively once that happens, because admitting the person they thought they knew is someone else entirely would be devastating and humiliating for them.

Definitely.

I believe that anybody can be the one.

Its a matter of perception.

Looking at love objectively, and being able to accept a person for their attributes...ALL OF THEM, is what is lacking in our culture.

This country is such a materialistic, idealistic breeding ground for broken hearts.

[asphyxian_doll]

the mind dont see what the heart sees. somehow can hate somone yet love them, or cant let go of the past memories

Sometimes

[phee]

Good thread....

My 2 pesos

Love is one of the most relative emotions one can possibly hope to describe (romantic love anyway). No two people on earth share the same definition of what it is, what it means, what it should mean, how it works, how it doesn't, blah blah blah, etc....

It is a product of the person or people involved... A crazy person, will most likely have what others would define of a crazy version of love. One thing that love does to a lot of people though, is cut deep down below the surfaces that they project and see and themselves, bringing a seemingly sane persons passions and demons from his/her hidden selves and forcing them to the surface.

Love is it blind? Yes but not always... is it Bi-polar, yes but not always, it can also be painful, wonderful, life ending, life changing, suprficial, never-ending, hot, sexy, torturous, blah blah blah, etc....

Kind of like describing "ART" there is good art, bad art, strange art, political art..... like love, art is all of the above x 1,000.

It is also relative to who we are at any given moment. Love can mean one thing to us now, and something else 5 minutes from now.... Just like us in fact.... so love in otherwords has as many dimensions and traits as people do.... which you could say is infinite.

[phee]

To add....

If someone believes they are in love.... I think they are.... whether it fits our definition or not... As twisted as theirs might be....

[asphyxian_doll]

Good thread....

My 2 pesos

Love is one of the most relative emotions one can possibly hope to describe (romantic love anyway). No two people on earth share the same definition of what it is, what it means, what it should mean, how it works, how it doesn't, blah blah blah, etc....

It is a product of the person or people involved... A crazy person, will most likely have what others would define of a crazy version of love. One thing that love does to a lot of people though, is cut deep down below the surfaces that they project and see and themselves, bringing a seemingly sane persons passions and demons from his/her hidden selves and forcing them to the surface.

Love is it blind? Yes but not always... is it Bi-polar, yes but not always, it can also be painful, wonderful, life ending, life changing, suprficial, never-ending, hot, sexy, torturous, blah blah blah, etc....

Kind of like describing "ART" there is good art, bad art, strange art, political art..... like love, art is all of the above x 1,000.

It is also relative to who we are at any given moment. Love can mean one thing to us now, and something else 5 minutes from now.... Just like us in fact.... so love in otherwords has as many dimensions and traits as people do.... which you could say is infinite.

I find this very enlightening.

thank you phee.

also, your right, if someone says they are in love,

its for them to decide...not us.

no matter how warped it may be....to an outsiders view.

[know_buddy_kares]

well when you got someone you can't get away from emotionally.. because everyone knows i hate opening myself up and being vunerable.. and will avoid it at all costs... and if there's a girl that can still make me do it.. it's love.. honestly..

that's one way.. but I still go with Psychostick's song title, "Love = Orgasm"

[asphyxian_doll]

well when you got someone you can't get away from emotionally.. because everyone knows i hate opening myself up and being vunerable.. and will avoid it at all costs... and if there's a girl that can still make me do it.. it's love.. honestly..

that's one way.. but I still go with Psychostick's song title, "Love = Orgasm"

Being vulnerable is a beautiful thing,

it shows humanity, and life in someone who would otherwise rather hurt than be hurt.

if she makes you feel this way, keep her.

[phee]

I find this very enlightening.

thank you phee.

also, your right, if someone says they are in love,

its for them to decide...not us.

no matter how warped it may be....to an outsiders view.

Aw shucks

[asphyxian_doll]

Aw shucks

:D *poke!*

mwarrharr!

teehee:P

[hunhee]

As a successfully propagating species, our prime directive is to mate.

Love was something invented by Hallmark to make those of us who haven't found this "Crazy little thing called love" feel inadequate, or inept about something (like any of us really need a reason to feel inadequate at something OR it's to just completely waste our minds on such frivolity).

It could also be a propagandistic conspiracy to keep our government in power.

DiSCLAIMER: the words formulated in the posting above may not entirely be the view or the opinion of the originator of said message, just occasionally the logical/cynical side of said person gets all entwined, and it's sometimes hard to differentiate thoughts from views.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Love is a fickle whore that demands payment in tears and heart ache.

[asphyxian_doll]

Love is a fickle whore that demands payment in tears and heart ache.

I would have to disagree

Love..to me....true love, comes within...and starts with loving yourself.

[Head Wreck]

life is as complicated as you make it.

[know_buddy_kares]

Being vulnerable is a beautiful thing,

it shows humanity, and life in someone who would otherwise rather hurt than be hurt.

if she makes you feel this way, keep her.

i'd rather have it as love =orgasam still.. because blowing my nut in a girl fucking RULES

[Enishi]

I agree that the definition of love tends to depend on the person.

For me, I define romantic love as strong, genuine affection with some degree of sexual passion mixed in.

Based on what I've seen however, some people apparently only think they're "in love", if it involves a form of hyper-clingy, possesive mental insanity.

i'd rather have it as love =orgasam still.. because blowing my nut in a girl fucking RULES

LOL!

[know_buddy_kares]

I agree that the definition of love tends to depend on the person.

For me, I define romantic love as strong, genuine affection with some degree of sexual passion mixed in.

Based on what I've seen however, some people apparently only think they're "in love", if it involves a form of hyper-clingy, possesive mental insanity.

LOL!

just remember.. though love = orgasm... hate = child support!!!

but yeah.. as fuckn drunk as i am.. (leave for iraq friday so getting fuckin tore up ftw!!!) love is alot of shit...

one thing.. my disinterest in sex personally... it fuckin sucks without love.. i cannot fall inlove due to sex.. the way to my heart aint through my fuckin dick...

hoqwcwe... er fuckin drunk fingers.. however, when i'm inlove like i am.. jesus fucking christ does that shit ever make me horny.. my love i'm with... god do i wanna pork the fuck out of her every night simply cuz she's got my heart

[Scales]

I.m.o., romantic love starts with acceptance or rejection and is based on normal and sexual communication. Unconditional love is different, underlying, and something that can be unlocked towards anything and everything. From a physcological standpoint I see unconditional love as a trait of the "child", and romantic love as a trait of the "adult."

That's all I have on it from my brain-dump.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

hmmm...interesting.

Blind-folded would be a good way to put it. Loving someone else often has repercussions that no one really considers in the start. We're raked up in the beginning, like leaves in a yard, and tend to pile much of ourselves, mentally and emotionally, on another human being. This happens whether or not we think it is.

The strain of such baggage takes it toll, and a sign of TRUE love is the ability to handle the issues each person in the relationship has, as well as your own. This happens both as a couple, and individuals. Can you change for the person your with? Will you? Can you be better then what you are?

Don't just ask yourself, ask your partner as well. It's not a sin to ask someone to change for the better...it is only a sin to ask them to change for the worse, or to look the other way. Now, before anyone goes off on the "if they love you, they won't ask you to change" rant, because I know it's out there....sit back and consider that a relationship with TRUE love in it isn't just about living, loving, and dying for that person, but making the personal sacrifices, both physically & mentally, that need to be made so that the relationship can last.

I'm not asking anyone to give up their lives, but with love comes wisdom and understanding.....and sacrifice.

[asphyxian_doll]

I.m.o., romantic love starts with acceptance or rejection and is based on normal and sexual communication. Unconditional love is different, underlying, and something that can be unlocked towards anything and everything. From a physcological standpoint I see unconditional love as a trait of the "child", and romantic love as a trait of the "adult."

That's all I have on it from my brain-dump.

Unconditional love is still alive in adulthood

[asphyxian_doll]

hmmm...interesting.

Blind-folded would be a good way to put it. Loving someone else often has repercussions that no one really considers in the start. We're raked up in the beginning, like leaves in a yard, and tend to pile much of ourselves, mentally and emotionally, on another human being. This happens whether or not we think it is.

The strain of such baggage takes it toll, and a sign of TRUE love is the ability to handle the issues each person in the relationship has, as well as your own. This happens both as a couple, and individuals. Can you change for the person your with? Will you? Can you be better then what you are?

Don't just ask yourself, ask your partner as well. It's not a sin to ask someone to change for the better...it is only a sin to ask them to change for the worse, or to look the other way. Now, before anyone goes off on the "if they love you, they won't ask you to change" rant, because I know it's out there....sit back and consider that a relationship with TRUE love in it isn't just about living, loving, and dying for that person, but making the personal sacrifices, both physically & mentally, that need to be made so that the relationship can last.

I'm not asking anyone to give up their lives, but with love comes wisdom and understanding.....and sacrifice.

I agree with you completely.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

I agree with you completely.

great...you wanna explain that to everyone else I've dated???

[asphyxian_doll]

great...you wanna explain that to everyone else I've dated???

no... you can't explain to those who don't want to understand.

But i will say that changing is a BIG part of being in a relationship,

and a lot of individuals are afraid of change, or don't want to for whatever reason,

....and like you said, change can be good.

I personally LOVE change.

It comes with experience.