Blades, Do you practice or own any?

[Nymada del Sol]

As an infantry staff sergeant, id hope you have better things to do then to intricately train your squad in knife fighting. Perhaps maybe battle drill six, battle drill 1 alpha, or maybe even filling sand bags since that's really all the national guard does over here. Any active duty Army or hell any service prior or current should be laughing at this. Any of you want to know what real Infantry will be training in, please feel free to consult the Ranger handbook.... Please don't bring the Infantry or Rangers or any combat arms into these threads to try and boost your appearance's, it will only end up with a negative response by a hooch full of disgruntled paratrooper's and rangers.

Sorry I couldn't let that one go..so any ways..i'm not too big on throwing hatchets, but I throw knifes and stars on a regular basis when I get down time. I have a few katana's (show blades) back home but mostly for appearance. I do however practice Kendo when ever i'm home with a good friend that aspires to be a samurai. (i don't have the heart to tell him that time has passed.) I am a big fan of Gerber knifes but my deployment knife I been using and has prooven it's self even over my seal pup knife, is my Tops Knife. Not too big but not too small, full tungsten steel and never seemed to loose an edge for 9 months of this deployment so far. It's been banged around, soaked in water multiple times, soaked in swet, cut hundreds of 550 cord, and even pryed the gunner turret hatch open when our fob was attacked in june. My hat goes off to Tops knifes.

Since you sound like you know a thing or two, may I ask the main difference between military knife training and civilian dojo melee weapons training?

Edited July 9, 2012 by Nymada del Sol

[Dead~spirit]

Since you sound like you know a thing or two, may I ask the main difference between military knife training and civilian dojo melee weapons training?

I can only say what i know, which is this..if you are willing to fork forward the money for civilian training courses, it will usually be better training then the STANDARD military training. There are multiple reasons for this, the military knows what they are doing but usually they don't have the time to teach anything except the basics. Also in military training, One will not get the one on one training needed to really master the lessons at hand. When your paying for a course by a instructor who is well experienced, he is being paid to teach you and better damn well be spending the time with you to help you master the lessons. If not, then take your money else where. I've noticed the same with martial arts, the mma we get taught in the Army doesn't seem to be nearly as installed as it is when you go to a civilian instructor outside base. now I am no way saying the army doesn't teach well, they just don't have the time to teach one mma class every 2 to 3 days a week, every week, when they have to keep us up to date on CQB, give us range time, Give us commo classes, CLS, driving courses for every new vehicle that comes out, feed us, conduct PT daily, field trainings like JRTC, Air borne op trainings, etc, the list is endless, in the end it's really on the individual soldier to go out and expand on the besic lessons he has been taught, and better himself.

I just realized this seems like a massive rant but I dont want you getting the wrong idea. Hope it helped.

[Nymada del Sol]

I can only say what i know, which is this..if you are willing to fork forward the money for civilian training courses, it will usually be better training then the STANDARD military training. There are multiple reasons for this, the military knows what they are doing but usually they don't have the time to teach anything except the basics. Also in military training, One will not get the one on one training needed to really master the lessons at hand. When your paying for a course by a instructor who is well experienced, he is being paid to teach you and better damn well be spending the time with you to help you master the lessons. If not, then take your money else where. I've noticed the same with martial arts, the mma we get taught in the Army doesn't seem to be nearly as installed as it is when you go to a civilian instructor outside base. now I am no way saying the army doesn't teach well, they just don't have the time to teach one mma class every 2 to 3 days a week, every week, when they have to keep us up to date on CQB, give us range time, Give us commo classes, CLS, driving courses for every new vehicle that comes out, feed us, conduct PT daily, field trainings like JRTC, Air borne op trainings, etc, the list is endless, in the end it's really on the individual soldier to go out and expand on the besic lessons he has been taught, and better himself.

I just realized this seems like a massive rant but I dont want you getting the wrong idea. Hope it helped.

No problem. I am dojo and self trained myself. I trained a bit in escrima, Japanese style sword fighting, knife fighting, staff, and various hand to hand stuff. I like to learn from others. I've been out of practice for years.

[Dead~spirit]

No problem. I am dojo and self trained myself. I trained a bit in escrima, Japanese style sword fighting, knife fighting, staff, and various hand to hand stuff. I like to learn from others. I've been out of practice for years.

I was taking ninjitsu for almost 2 years off base while I was taking my advanced class in brazilian jue jitsue. It was amazing how much they taught one to use weapons in their hand to hand class's. I loved it, but at the time i couldn't afford it with my drinking, and weekend stripper visits, so i had to drop it. When I get back though I am going to try and find a good krav maga instructor off base.

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Not that I have any detailed experience with "structured" weapons training (every martial art I've been involved with has bee 95% unarmed) but almost always there is some sort of "artistic" aspect to it , in that you memorize things that are not useful in actual combat but are more about the "art" than the "martial" aspect. Also, at least hinted at "supernatural" or "spiritual" element to them, which , for me at least, didn't help at all with the combat. (I have some random belt that I do not remember in Taekwondo from when I was a teenager and a brown belt in "American Karate" (although I've not trained in over a decade.)

I'm assuming these elements are also present in "weapon based martial arts training".

Somewhat off topic I apologize, just popped into my mind randomly.

[Cowboydave]

As an infantry staff sergeant, id hope you have better things to do then to intricately train your squad in knife fighting. Perhaps maybe battle drill six, battle drill 1 alpha, or maybe even filling sand bags since that's really all the national guard does over here. Any active duty Army or hell any service prior or current should be laughing at this. Any of you want to know what real Infantry will be training in, please feel free to consult the Ranger handbook.... Please don't bring the Infantry or Rangers or any combat arms into these threads to try and boost your appearance's, it will only end up with a negative response by a hooch full of disgruntled paratrooper's and rangers.

Sorry I couldn't let that one go..so any ways..i'm not too big on throwing hatchets, but I throw knifes and stars on a regular basis when I get down time. I have a few katana's (show blades) back home but mostly for appearance. I do however practice Kendo when ever i'm home with a good friend that aspires to be a samurai. (i don't have the heart to tell him that time has passed.) I am a big fan of Gerber knifes but my deployment knife I been using and has prooven it's self even over my seal pup knife, is my Tops Knife. Not too big but not too small, full tungsten steel and never seemed to loose an edge for 9 months of this deployment so far. It's been banged around, soaked in water multiple times, soaked in swet, cut hundreds of 550 cord, and even pryed the gunner turret hatch open when our fob was attacked in june. My hat goes off to Tops knifes.

I'm Sorry, did you just go full f**Cking RETARD on a comment I made 4 f**king years ago? OF COURSE I teach basics like battle drill 6 and that would be the most common place to use this training, but this post is about blades not battle drills. And if you think I mention military just to make myself sound better what does being a retard and going off on a 4 year old post to make yourself look good say, oh right is says retard. People like you are why this board is dying... Thanks...

[Troy Spiral (13)]

I'm Sorry, did you just go full f**Cking RETARD on a comment I made 4 f**king years ago? OF COURSE I teach basics like battle drill 6 and that would be the most common place to use this training, but this post is about blades not battle drills. And if you think I mention military just to make myself sound better what does being a retard and going off on a 4 year old post to make yourself look good say, oh right is says retard. People like you are why this board is dying... Thanks...

Its a problem with all social settings, put more than 3 people together and someone is eventually going to say something irritating. A few few random abrasive posts are going to happen no matter what we do, its always been the case. After awhile if someone is consistently abrasive, they either leave or are removed. No other way to deal with it.

The board is actually growing, it was dying, now its slowing growing again, it was dead due to me getting sick for an extended period, lack of promotion and and other things.

Blowing a gasket over someone stating the obvious / something irritating is more likely to cause people to not want to be involved than someone just stating something irritating.

How else do you deal with such things? Ask everyone involved to calm down and hope they are adult enough to do so, and move on from there if that doesn't work.

[StormKnight (1)]

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[Dead~spirit]

Haha just sayin, and hell no man I thought you knew...ya never go full retard.

[Invictus]

I've done a little bit of Kali(Inosanto and Pekiti Tirsa), a bit of Krabi Krabong(muay thai with weapons pretty much), a little bowie knife fighting, and stolen some drills from the dog brothers. Mostly because it's fun.