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...to show them that ... people get married...if you don't think a kid can comprehend that his neighbor does things in a different manner than s/he does...

...So sorry...THEY got you.

Its their teacher.... not a friend of the family, thats my problem

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...nope...just because the "professionals" keep lowering the bar so that people FEEL their kids are "normal" & can be justified having a TV/Computer as their nanny/babysitter...I AM SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE...I still say...BULLSHIT & SHENANIGANS...I read at 5...I have seen many children start reading at or near this age...

*slides sandwich back to Gaf*

YOU take a nice bite YOU bought it...& pass it on to anyone else that buys that shit...

There is no "NORMAL" when dealing with Humanity...peoples make a distinction between one person and another due to age...they do not believe that we all go as far as the path laid before us...so ya'll go ahead...buy it..buy it & eat it...& when in 2-3 Generations there are a mass of near moronic peoples walking around BELIEVING that they are "NORMAL", & not one of them can think for themselves; don't worry...BIG BROTHER will feed & clothe them as long as they pick the soy beans...

WAKE UP & SEE THE PATTERNS.

THEY are manipulating you with their pie charts & statistics.

No, there is no normal, but there is average. Also, reading is one skill out of many people have to learn in school. Beyond that, but in the same line, reading a word does not mean comprehension of the word. Two different skills that develop at different rates. Nor are either of them math skills... or spacial relations.. or pattern recognition or problem solving or cooperation or geography or history.

Nobody excels at all of those skills.

Schools have to teach at a level that benefits most of the children, those that need special attention because they either excel at or perform badly on a given skill need special attention to address that need.

Like Rayne pointed out... schools teach a "base" curriculum and then adjusts to each child's needs. At least good schools do.

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You do realize that in a normal school day setting, the kids spend more time at school than at home with "family and friends", right?

Yes.... but a teachers responsibility is to teach the kids for the school year... not to raise them

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As I said... in general

...in GENERAL...voodoonista's & shamanic type peoples do that sort of thing..(with the slaughtering a goat at a wedding)..& any nudity I have EVER encountered in a spiritual setting has been a SUPER PRIVATE kind of ritual... & childeren can not attend.... (I don't know about the "Nudist Pagans" but in Gardinarian Wicca, you must be 18...for obvious legal reasons...)

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Yes.... but a teachers responsibility is to teach the kids for the school year... not to raise them

They have a big hand in it at young ages though. Think about it, your not there, someone has to. Hence rules and limits. The only thing you can do is talk to the teacher and be on the same page. A first grader is usually still pushing limits and trying to get a feel for rules. Especially if they have never been in a social setting before. It's all a part of growing up.

I'm not talking middle school and beyond, they should be self-sufficient enough.

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That I agree with you in.... the fact that it is gay should be irrelivent

..but it is in fact why the complaint was lodged...

"It's just utterly unreasonable that a public school field trip would be to a same-sex wedding," said Chip White, press secretary for the Yes on 8 campaign, told the Chronicle. "This is overt indoctrination of children who are too young to have an understanding of its purpose."
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They have a big hand in it at young ages though. Think about it, your not there, someone has to. Hence rules and limits. The only thing you can do is talk to the teacher and be on the same page. A first grader is usually still pushing limits and trying to get a feel for rules. Especially if they have never been in a social setting before. It's all a part of growing up.

I'm not talking middle school and beyond, they should be self-sufficient enough.

my point being is a teacher taking there own students to their own wedding.... gay, christian... church, city hall.... is not the same page.

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They have a big hand in it at young ages though. Think about it, your not there, someone has to. Hence rules and limits. The only thing you can do is talk to the teacher and be on the same page. A first grader is usually still pushing limits and trying to get a feel for rules. Especially if they have never been in a social setting before. It's all a part of growing up.

I'm not talking middle school and beyond, they should be self-sufficient enough.

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It is annoying to know the boredom I now know...*emo moment*

Which is why I explicitly instated a large list of rules...

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my point being is a teacher taking there own students to their own wedding.... gay, christian... church, city hall.... is not the same page.

Same page doesn't nessicarily mean "one thing". I desire for my kids to be exposed to all different kinds of things. They celebrate all different religious and ethnic holidays at school. I could have opted them out, but why? Diversity is what makes this world what it is.

That teacher is a HUGE part of a first graders life.

I would, however like to know if these were individual permission slips or the general ones (I've personally never seen a general one, but I have heard about it). And if it was a general one, why didn't these parents ask about it beforehand? First graders aren't just going to come home one day and say "Guess where we went today!" there's a whole lot of planning included in taking a bunch of first graders to one place.

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Same page doesn't nessicarily mean "one thing". I desire for my kids to be exposed to all different kinds of things. They celebrate all different religious and ethnic holidays at school. I could have opted them out, but why? Diversity is what makes this world what it is.

That teacher is a HUGE part of a first graders life.

I would, however like to know if these were individual permission slips or the general ones (I've personally never seen a general one, but I have heard about it). And if it was a general one, why didn't these parents ask about it beforehand? First graders aren't just going to come home one day and say "Guess where we went today!" there's a whole lot of planning included in taking a bunch of first graders to one place.

Rayne... it is a well documented and undisputed fact that you and I never disagree about anything on DGN... just ask some of the people that don't post as much any more.... How can you possibly be saying this knowing this fact? =P

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Rayne... it is a well documented and undisputed fact that you and I never disagree about anything on DGN... just ask some of the people that don't post as much any more.... How can you possibly be saying this knowing this fact? =P

...that means this must be the first time you have been wrong on DGN... ;)

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Rayne... it is a well documented and undisputed fact that you and I never disagree about anything on DGN... just ask some of the people that don't post as much any more.... How can you possibly be saying this knowing this fact? =P

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Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't love you any less, Phee! LoL ... and saying we never disagree about anything is just absurd. I disagree with your disagreement!

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Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't love you any less, Phee! LoL ... and saying we never disagree about anything is just absurd. I disagree with your disagreement!

But.... but you can't disagree.... people say we never diagree about anything and... and.... and..... *dies*

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Same page doesn't nessicarily mean "one thing". I desire for my kids to be exposed to all different kinds of things. They celebrate all different religious and ethnic holidays at school. I could have opted them out, but why? Diversity is what makes this world what it is.

That teacher is a HUGE part of a first graders life.

I would, however like to know if these were individual permission slips or the general ones (I've personally never seen a general one, but I have heard about it). And if it was a general one, why didn't these parents ask about it beforehand? First graders aren't just going to come home one day and say "Guess where we went today!" there's a whole lot of planning included in taking a bunch of first graders to one place.

...I would not sign a "General" trip ticket for any kid under...I'll say about..13...that seems REALLY IRRESPONSIBLE...(& I am not know far nor wide for my level of responcabilityness on bills & eating right...but DAMN...you are the custodian of another sentient being...you kinda' gotta' pay attention..most people don't.)

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