Do you make more than $603,000 dollars?

[Destroit]

Or you could find a place that is more comfortable with your budget, or find better paying jobs, rather than wonder why people who've put in their own hard work should have to pay your way. Even two people working full time min. wage jobs shouldn't have an issue paying rent/utilities in a low income area.

+To infinity and beyond

I couldn't give a shit if I was poor and homeless on the street, if rich people don't want to hand me the money they earned so I can take the easy way out, they should have the right to keep every penny of it. Nobody should have the right to anyone else's money, especially if it's being taxed by force. If they want to give me money volunteerly...then plus one to their karma.

I don't believe in taxes or welfare because A) The money ALWAYS has to come from somewhere and B) They are handouts and handouts enable to people to be weak and not able to face reality over time. Handouts cause or can contribute to dependancy, demotivation, "comfort" with said handout, staying at one place in your life for forever, and basically low self-esteem and self-worthlessness over time.

[Destroit]

Easier said than done.

We tried .... the economy is causing all kinds of nasty issues with the housing market and job market that makes that almost impossible.

Nasty issues with the housing market...?

As someone who works in real estate, I will say that right now is the best time to buy/lease/rent then we've ever seen in our lives.

[phee]

Nasty issues with the housing market...?

As someone who works in real estate, I will say that right now is the best time to buy/lease/rent then we've ever seen in our lives.

We can't seem to sell... that was one big issue....

[phee]

+To infinity and beyond

I couldn't give a shit if I was poor and homeless on the street, if rich people don't want to hand me the money they earned so I can take the easy way out, they should have the right to keep every penny of it. Nobody should have the right to anyone else's money, especially if it's being taxed by force. If they want to give me money volunteerly...then plus one to their karma.

I don't believe in taxes or welfare because A) The money ALWAYS has to come from somewhere and B) They are handouts and handouts enable to people to be weak and not able to face reality over time. Handouts cause or can contribute to dependancy, demotivation, "comfort" with said handout, staying at one place in your life for forever, and basically low self-esteem and self-worthlessness over time.

What if the persons money was in someway "stolen" from another....? Or is it a finders keepers situation?

[Destroit]

HAHAHA!

..we still have starving/homeless kids.

That's the parent's fault, not the government's. All kids can 100% be taken care of, for free, in this country by our government, so if they're starving, it's their parents fault for being either lazy/ignorant and not getting help.

I know this because I was one of those kids. All kids are guaranteed free health care if their parents qualify to be poor enough also, and they actually set the bar quite high on how much you can be making to still qualify.

[Destroit]

What if the persons money was in someway "stolen" from another....? Or is it a finders keepers situation?

Elaborate. Whatchu mean by that? (in relavancy to my post)

[phee]

Elaborate. Whatchu mean by that? (in relavancy to my post)

Lets say by misleading business practices for example...

[Rayne]

Nasty issues with the housing market...?

As someone who works in real estate, I will say that right now is the best time to buy/lease/rent then we've ever seen in our lives.

Buy/Lease/Rent ... yes. I know plenty of people who have bought recently and gotten really good deals, but not sold. They moved out of an apartment or another rental situation. Heck, there's a HUGE increase in forclosure homes just waiting for someone to cash in on.

But sell ... NO WAY! That was our problem. We have a $180k home that we can't even sell for $120k right now. ... and a $150k mortgage we'd have to pay off.

ONE house has sold in our neighbourhood in the past 3 years that I have seen (probably more than that have exchanged hands ... I know there's a few empty ones ... one behind us in fact). A $125k house they sold for $35k. A lot have gone up on the market only to not sell and whomever pulls it off the market.

The one behind us was empty from the time I moved here (3 years ago). It's been on the market off and on. Someone recently poured a lot of money into it and redid everything. It's still on the market.

[Rev.Reverence]

That's the parent's fault, not the government's. All kids can 100% be taken care of, for free, in this country by our government, so if they're starving, it's their parents fault for being either lazy/ignorant and not getting help.

I know this because I was one of those kids. All kids are guaranteed free health care if their parents qualify to be poor enough also, and they actually set the bar quite high on how much you can be making to still qualify.

I choose to disagree. Having been BARLEY scrapping by with the Food Stamps being canceled...& we did not even have a car to pay for..nor NEW CLOTHES..nor Clubbing..or much anything other than survival.

[phee]

That's the parent's fault, not the government's. All kids can 100% be taken care of, for free, in this country by our government, so if they're starving, it's their parents fault for being either lazy/ignorant and not getting help.

I know this because I was one of those kids. All kids are guaranteed free health care if their parents qualify to be poor enough also, and they actually set the bar quite high on how much you can be making to still qualify.

This is an over statement....

I won't go into the "once you have kids" cliche, but the government doesn't just take care of kids because the parents are poor... There are levels of complexity to this that would fill up pages upon pages to explain... but in order to get government help, many things have to fall into place in almost a perfect way to get the help thats needed.

[Rev.Reverence]

This is an over statement....

I won't go into the "once you have kids" cliche, but the government doesn't just take care of kids because the parents are poor... There are levels of complexity to this that would fill up pages upon pages to explain... but in order to get government help, many things have to fall into place in almost a perfect way to get the help thats needed.

[n0Mad]

in order to get government help, many things have to fall into place in almost a perfect way to get the help thats needed.

Now there's an idea ... all the poor play in Tetris competitions and the winners get government aid.

[phee]

Now there's an idea ... all the poor play in Tetris competitions and the winners get government aid.

My wife is good at Tetris... which is good because we I think qualify as "the poor"

[SaGa]

inflation or deflation. with people having there cash (or assets poof into thin air. commodities going down. it looks a like a wild ride. of chaos so less money exchanging hands and circulating.

inflation scares everyone. theres no doupt about that. its a perpetual devaluation of the price of labor with a delayed rise in pay rate to balence the devaluation(often times extremely delayed)

a spike in deflation could bolster the economy bye incressing the price of labor. and thus incress the consumerism wheel back into motion. but this could turn into bad deflation if left unchecked for a long period of time, and people think that there money will incress in value and return back to the hoarding scheme. and buisnessess end up suffering and laying of people from the incress in the price of labor

is now really the time to buy or is it 2 weeks from now. thats the question that is the symptom of deflation.

[Velvet Tears]

i demand you marry me.

who are you dating/married to? i will challenge them to a duel to the death.

LOL...I'm single. , with a son.

[SaGa]

My wife is good at Tetris... which is good because we I think qualify as "the poor"

my highest was lvl 15, at that level i suffered from the restrictions of the keypad to move the peices fast enough. often it was i knew where the peice was going and what bottons to hit exactly in the order they should be hit. but alas bottons couldnt be pushed fast enough

[Rayne]

This is an over statement....

I won't go into the "once you have kids" cliche, but the government doesn't just take care of kids because the parents are poor... There are levels of complexity to this that would fill up pages upon pages to explain... but in order to get government help, many things have to fall into place in almost a perfect way to get the help thats needed.

Worth repeating.