President Barack Obama

[asphyxian_doll]

+10 zillion

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makes absolutely no sense.

[TitsMcGee]

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makes absolutely no sense.

Zillion - a fictitious word meaning large number.

What part of that doesn't make sense to you?

[asphyxian_doll]

Zillion - a fictitious word meaning large number.

What part of that doesn't make sense to you?

What didn't make sense was the quote before + zillion.

But that's a non issue.

Obama won.

Its a sign of growth and change.

And not saluting the flag is also a non-issue *re-directs topic*

If you oppose on the salute for WHATEVER reason, open you're own thread in discussion,

it has absolutely nothing to do with his campaign and ability to run the country.

As for the whining about Obama and his policies,....Its a little early to be whining!

If he walks the walk, I'm sure we will be experiencing very good change, opposed to bad...

AND AGAIN I agree with bean water completely, she made a valid and compassionate point.

I support her completely.

lol, he won...get over it!

[Goth Brooks]

What didn't make sense was the quote before + zillion.

Scroll up.

If it still doesn't make sense when it's read in context, then I'm sorry.

[bean]

I'm tired of high school drop outs, GED holders, and (gag) liberal art students with worthless degrees whining about the government not doing enough for them.

Get a fucking degree that will give you a job, and shut the fuck up.

I shouldn't even waste my fucking time responding to you, but I wanted to address this.

I'm currently working on my master's degree, thank you very much.

It's generally the high school drop outs, and GED holders that have the misinformed, racist, bigoted, redneck mentalities that I wrote about in my original post. Those are the people that I tend to find are the most hostile and don't really give a fuck about anyone other than themselves.

There are exceptions to this, of course.

There are also degree holders who are complete assholes on a regular basis.

[Guest Megalicious]

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And not saluting the flag is also a non-issue *re-directs topic*

it has absolutely nothing to do with his campaign and ability to run the country.

The woman has an excellent point.

I am excited that BO shall be in the white house come January, for more than one reason.

[asphyxian_doll]

I shouldn't even waste my fucking time responding to you, but I wanted to address this.

I'm currently working on my master's degree, thank you very much.

It's generally the high school drop outs, and GED holders that have the misinformed, racist, bigoted, redneck mentalities that I wrote about in my original post. Those are the people that I tend to find are the most hostile and don't really give a fuck about anyone other than themselves.

There are exceptions to this, of course.

I am a GED holder, of course I noticed you said there are exceptions...and those exceptions are vast.

GOTH BROOKS-

WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT OTHERS DECISIONS.....we are ALL HUMAN AND DESERVE COMPASSION AND FORGIVENESS.

If you cannot agree on that, I feel sorry for you when(yes WHEN) You find yourself in a position of helplessness, and come out empty handed DUE to the POLICIES of you're own avid support.

Of course, it is all about perception, no one NO ONE is left empty handed,

opportunity is out there, and this world is not as cruel as you like to think,

I hate it when people play the victim card but I am compassionate and want to help others in need.

In some ways I agree with you,

In others, I have no respect for your lack of tact.

As for the presidency....

I am sure Obama will bring a good balance To this issue, he seems to have a pretty good hold on things.

Lets hope he helps middle class, AND upper class to the extent that brings balance, or a good roll on the way to a more balanced system.

Education,

Health care,

and taxes.

He knows what hes doing in this arena, and I am happy to be a supporter.

[bean]

I am a GED holder, of course I noticed you said there are exceptions...and those exceptions are vast.

indeed

[asphyxian_doll]

And I hate it when people play the "fuck you, fend for yourself card."

I have compassion for people. You know nothing about me, my life, or what I have experienced. I can say the same for you of course. Your post makes me wonder if you truly have compassion for others.

HEY! read it again!

I agreed with you!.....

I never said i knew a damn thing about you bean....fuck, calm the fuck down.

my post makes you wonder?

RE-READ i had To edit it for context sake...it was directed towards GOTH BROOKS!

So quick to defend yourself....not always the best frame of fucking mind to be in when posting in a forum like this.

TRY to be diplomatic!

thanks...lol...and you keep re-editing too

GORRAMMIT STUPID FUCKING CONTEXT!

*blames my compassion on the topic + inability to write in correct context*

[bean]

HEY! read it again!

I agreed with you!.....

I never said i knew a damn thing about you bean....fuck, calm the fuck down.

my post makes me wonder?

RE-READ i had To edit it for context sake...it was directed towards GOTH BROOKS!

So quick to defend yourself....not always the best frame of fucking mind to be in when posting in a forum like this.

TRY to be diplomatic!

thanks?

your original post, before you edited it, appeared as though you were attacking me. I read your edit, and saw that the rest of it was not directed at me, and edited my response as such. You were also quick to defend yourself here.

*shakes fist in the air* damn you context!!

[asphyxian_doll]

your original post, before you edited it, appeared as though you were attacking me. I read your edit, and saw that the rest of it was not directed at me, and edited my response as such. You were also quick to defend yourself here.

oh yeah of course I was,....and I understand why you were too....big fat custard filled misunderstanding......

lol

sorry about that.

[bean]

oh yeah of course I was,....and I understand why you were too....big fat custard filled misunderstanding......

lol

sorry about that.

I apologize too

[asphyxian_doll]

shoopdawoop!

....

[Goth Brooks]

It's generally the high school drop outs, and GED holders that have the misinformed, racist, bigoted, redneck mentalities that I wrote about in my original post.

And those kinds of people are far more likely to be black, hispanic, and liberal voters.

Those are the people that I tend to find are the most hostile and don't really give a fuck about anyone other than themselves.

You mean like all the poor idiots that demand more money from the government/rich to support their continuing stupidity?

Here is an AWESOME idea.

With the exception of medical aid, lets take every cent that would be sent off to those worthless downtrodden people who can't [read: won't] support themselves, and instead put it all into the education system. Then maybe their kids will get a head.

I am a GED holder. I have only 15 college credits to my name. I have no health insurance. I have a shitty low pay job. I have a low income rent. I barely pay bills and I am in debt.

I have never applied for government assistance, with the exception of Federal Financial Aid. I have been in the same situations as all those whiners; broke, jobless, evicted, in debt, lost.

These things are all MY fault. Not the government, not Joe Millionaire, or Joe Plumber. They shouldn't have to foot the bill for my stupidity.. or anyone else's.

[Oh_My_Goth]

Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear arms?

A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.

Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?

A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.

QUOTE

Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcin and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent.

When I queried him about the vote, he said, "I didn't find that [vote] surprising. I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms."

It wasn't until a few weeks later that another theory came forward about the uncharacteristic vote. Obama was battling with his GOP opponent to win the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police.

KEYES: [to Obama]: I am a strong believer in the second amendment. The gun control mentality is ruthlessly absurd. It suggests that we should pass a law that prevents law abiding citizens from carrying weapons. You end up with a situation where the crook have all the guns and the law abiding citizens cannot defend themselves. I guess that's good enough for Senator Obama who voted against the bill that would have allowed homeowners to defend themselves if their homes were broken into.

OBAMA: Let's be honest. Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.

Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004

FUCK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT-ELECT.

Ummm, I only see he wants to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.....

& Wants certain types of fire arms to be banned from 'every day' people.....

Strict gun laws are not going to keep you from having a gun.....Or many guns.....

The right to bear arms should not be the right to have a gun on you at all times.....

Do you really need to carry one on you when going to the grocery store?????

[Destroit]

And those kinds of people are far more likely to be black, hispanic, and liberal voters.

You mean like all the poor idiots that demand more money from the government/rich to support their continuing stupidity?

Here is an AWESOME idea.

With the exception of medical aid, lets take every cent that would be sent off to those worthless downtrodden people who can't [read: won't] support themselves, and instead put it all into the education system. Then maybe their kids will get a head.

I am a GED holder. I have only 15 college credits to my name. I have no health insurance. I have a shitty low pay job. I have a low income rent. I barely pay bills and I am in debt.

I have never applied for government assistance, with the exception of Federal Financial Aid. I have been in the same situations as all those whiners; broke, jobless, evicted, in debt, lost.

These things are all MY fault. Not the government, not Joe Millionaire, or Joe Plumber. They shouldn't have to foot the bill for my stupidity.. or anyone else's.

[Goth Brooks]

Ummm, I only see he wants to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.....

Taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens will not take the guns out of hands of criminals and crazies.

Say it again with me people.

GUN CONTROL LAWS DON'T WORK BECAUSE CRIMINALS DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW.

WHEN IT IS A CRIME TO OWN A GUN, ONLY CRIMINALS WILL HAVE GUNS.

& Wants certain types of fire arms to be banned from 'every day' people.....

And why? Do you know what the difference between a hunting rifle and an assault rifle is?

Its cosmetic, strictly cosmetic. An assault rifle looks like a military rifle, a hunting rifle does not.

In a lot of cases, a hunting rifle bullet has more kinetic energy than an assault rifle.

So why is he so hardon for banning assault rifles? Because he's a typical democrat.

Strict gun laws are not going to keep you from having a gun.....Or many guns.....

The right to bear arms should not be the right to have a gun on you at all times.....

That is EXACTLY what that right is.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Not, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms when they're jogging through Central Park at midnight.

Do you really need to carry one on you when going to the grocery store?????

Yes?

Show me statistics of the number of people that knew they were about to be the victim of a crime, in which a gun would have saved them, before the crime actually occurred.

[deathfearsnone]

So Afgahanstan is all about oil and not the fact that planes slammed into buildings killing over 3000 people. That shows your ignorance. Now go back and play and let the adults talk.

if you opened your eyes we invaded the wrong country at first osama was the terrorist not sadaam but who we go after first hmmm now think of that. this isn't a war its just getting rid of every terrorist quote on quote

i am very happy this country has gone to hell and we are suffering with bush's tactics put us in debt if mccain won i would be a citizen of canada before he took office he wanted to shut down the talks with any other country rather have a guy i can relate to rather then someone thats been handed everything his whole life

[Goth Brooks]

and its people like you which makes this country oh so great

oh i'm sorry, racist isn't allowed but ageism is... i completely forgot, my bad!

Prejudism is prejudism, doesn't matter if it's colour, age, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.

It is all equally hateful, and ignorant.

Thank you for not only being a prejudicial idiot, but hypocritical as well.

[deathfearsnone]

no you sir went way too far with it i said age didn't say this old cracker no cause i respect white people hell i was raised by a white family so you can't go there with me the socialism didn't bother me your use of the N word bugged the hell out of me.

you want to call me a hyprocrit for stating my opinion that i think he is a little too old to run the country when in fact the truth is running a country takes so much out of a person and ages them dramatically right

[Goth Brooks]

no you sir went way too far with it i said age didn't say this old cracker no cause i respect white people hell i was raised by a white family so you can't go there with me the socialism didn't bother me your use of the N word bugged the hell out of me.

you want to call me a hyprocrit for stating my opinion that i think he is a little too old to run the country when in fact the truth is running a country takes so much out of a person and ages them dramatically right

you said old hag.

you used a derogatory slur against old people.

it is equal to my use of the slur against black people.

you were ageist, i was racist.

but i'm in the wrong? why? when i was specifically using my slur to make a point, where you were using your slur with feeling. you MEANT it, i did not.

there-in lies the hypocrisy.

[Rev.Reverence]

[Sexy_Asian_Reaper]

Ok both of you shut the fuck up! goth brooks you are very wrong in your term

deathfearsnone you are also wrong

JUst stop edit your post like death did goth its offensive atleast deathfearsnone had the courage to edit his ok JUST STOP the both of you.

i am not taking any sides in the matter but keep the forum clean you guys are pretty bad.

so just knock it off before you both get reported for being offensive

[Rev.Reverence]

+1

...& done.

..noRudies'!

[Simon Bar Sinister]

what kinda of conservatives we talking about neocons, normal, or pre world war 2 type thinkers.? theres a wide variety. shouldnt blame a philosophy on our problems.

The variety inflicted on the American populace over the last 28 years. Teddy Roosevelt-style conservatives they wasn't, ain't and never gon' be.