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Black Sunday9 Newbie

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He seems to hate me... so kinda yeah

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are you part of the axis of evil?

what I find interesting is that people like Lucas won't admit that war often leads to good.

I'll give you an example, Bill Maher was on Jay Leno last week and he opened by saying "I hate George Bush and I wish John Kerry would have won.....but even I can't deny that some of his middle east policies are working"....comedian Jon Stewart of the daily show said the same thing.

- Though there is violence everyday in Iraq, polls inside Iraq show most of the Country (shia and kurds, which make up 77% of population) approve of the war.

- Syria has pulled out of Lebanon.

- Libya voulantarily abandoned it's uranium enrichment program.

- democratic reform in Saudi Arabia and Palestine, first time women are allowed to vote in either place...the only places in the middle east where women are allowed to vote is in places Bush has influenced.

None of these thing would have happened without George Bush. I didn't vote for Bush in either election, but I always shake my head at his critics, they have short memories.

Bush is a so-called homophobe yet his policies on gay marriage are the same as Gore, Clinton and Kerry.

Clinton bombed Kosovo without UN approval which effectively ended genocide, but killing between 200 and 1,000 people depending on what you read.

Clinton said we should have acted in Rwanda, which would have been non UN sanctioned if we had.

Clinton bombed Iraq on a Muslim holiday, resulting in the deaths of 75 people.

Clinton bombed a target in Sudan, which was later found to be a pharmecudical plant, meaning we killed a bunch of innocent people (killing between 2 and 100 people, the official number was not confirmed).

I bet Jaques Treatment has something to say about this but luckily I put him on my ignore list, people who claim they know more about economics than the guy who won the nobel prize for economics get on that list pretty quick.

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First off let me say I hate the series for what it has become. George Lucas has become nothing but a money grubbing whore. His vision has changed from what it originally was to dollar signs now. Everywhere I look he's got the Star Wars name brand on it (yes that is what it has become).

Star Wars Coke

Star Wars Burger King

Star Wars M&M's

Star Wars the new video game.

Lego Star Wars

Star Wars the Flamethrower

Next is George Bush, who has never been anything else but a money grubbing whore. The original reason we went into Iraq was for oil, nothing else. WMD was just an excuse and liberation of the country was just an added bonus.

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After reading the article, I really cant believe such a poor shameless plug like this was made against the US. Of course, the news has been having a nack for such things lately. Reminiscing the comparisons of SW3 and the US is just plain childish... especially for something to make a news posting. *no offence*

Ya....all that free oil.....ya know, the oil that we havent touched. You cant accuse the US for plotting to take oil if the 'crime' is never committed.

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yet people dont hesitate to draw serious and scholarly references between lord of the rings and WWII, despite tolkeins repeated and vehment denials.

let me put up a recent favorite quote of mine, which is somewhat applicable regarding works of art, the artist and the critics and general public perception of it.

An author I admire, one Mister Orson Scott Card, says (and I'm seriously paraphrasing here) that writers shouldn't worry about themes - that themes in fact are more a creation of critics and scholars and the other button-sorters who come along well after the fact and try to make it their business to tell folks what any given story really means and what any given author really had in mind. Card advises, rightly in my opinion, that a writer should just worry about telling a good tale, and let others worry about themes and such.

bill willingham in an interview regarding his title 'Fables'.

i dont think its childish at all. people read into something what they want to see. it cant be helped. and there are, of course, obvious parallels that CAN be drawn. as i said, i cant help but agree, especially with the historical comparissons made. as the saying goes, 'history repeats itself' or 'those who dont learn from the past are doomed to repeat it'.

cliche, perhaps, but evidently true. art and literature has a long tradition of being an indirect (or even quite direct) vehicle of political criticism.

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I find it interesting how people assume that bush started the war over oil, especially when you take the time to look at the facts.

#1. countries of the UN are/ was not allowed to purchase Iaq's oil. (Russia and france did it on the sneak tip)

#2. the cost in re refining Iraqi crap oil for American use is so cost prohibitive, that it makes zero sense that a business man would bother with it.

plenty more facts but it's better saved for a different thread started by an actual bush supporter.

DOWN WITH THE DEMOPUBLICANS!!!

DOWN WITH THE REPUBLICRATS!!!

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Well I didn't mean to imply that it was the only reason. He had to finish what his daddy started too.

That's also why I like BP stations, they don't get their gas from terrorist states.

I find it interesting how people assume that bush started the war over oil, especially when you take the time to look at the facts.

#1. countries of the UN are/ was not allowed to purchase Iaq's oil. (Russia and france did it on the sneak tip)

#2. the cost in re refining Iraqi crap oil for American use is so cost prohibitive, that it makes zero sense that a business man would bother with it.

plenty more facts but it's better saved for a different thread started by an actual bush supporter.

DOWN WITH THE DEMOPUBLICANS!!!

DOWN WITH THE REPUBLICRATS!!!

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