We're Back!

[The evil fish]

Sorry guys - I had no idea there was so much being said - I was writing that novel above.

On a lighter note... I was extremely happy to see you all last night! That means everyone even though you want to hang the DJ.

Ice Queen - Spook - I had no idea you were Spook from DGN! LOL! Next time introduce yourself as Spook from DGN... then again, I now know you're Spook from DGN so I guess that makes it unnecessary! :-)

Ice Queen, the pics are cool - I have taken them into the bathroom 6 times already and I may again before I'm finished with this post!

Hunhee - You're too hard on yourself, you and yo man looked great last night, top notch and some class to boot.

BTW Spook - Ron From Draconian is having shoulder problems and is having surgery this week on it. They will be doing a full show in February in which you will see what you expected.... and next time I will make sure the equipment is left up til the end of the night.... I guess that means you guys missed me getting whipped?

Drags

Ice Queen - that makes 7! LOL

[hunhee]

I was getting ready to go to bed last night and IceQueen said, "Wait, you don't have to work in the morning? Then I'm kidnapping you and taking you out." So, I was Kim's date captive last night.

I saw a Draconian show over a year ago down in the Labyrinth that was very well done. It actually impressed me and that's hard to do with fetish shows. But last night, I was severely disappointed and that's hard to do with fetish shows too. Oh well ... I enjoyed the company I was with and got to see Gimp do a suspension which, as a general rule, I don't watch suspensions. Not my thing. But, gotta support the peeps and all.

WHAT?!?!? I missed you too? damn!!! Grrr!!

[The evil fish]

WHAT?!?!? I missed you too? damn!!! Grrr!!

Hunhee... really - you probably need to quit your job.... really! :-)

[hunhee]

Sorry guys - I had no idea there was so much being said - I was writing that novel above.

On a lighter note... I was extremely happy to see you all last night! That means everyone even though you want to hang the DJ.

Ice Queen - Spook - I had no idea you were Spook from DGN! LOL! Next time introduce yourself as Spook from DGN... then again, I now know you're Spook from DGN so I guess that makes it unnecessary! :-)

Ice Queen, the pics are cool - I have taken them into the bathroom 6 times already and I may again before I'm finished with this post!

Hunhee - You're too hard on yourself, you and yo man looked great last night, top notch and some class to boot.

BTW Spook - Ron From Draconian is having shoulder problems and is having surgery this week on it. They will be doing a full show in February in which you will see what you expected.... and next time I will make sure the equipment is left up til the end of the night.... I guess that means you guys missed me getting whipped?

Drags

Ice Queen - that makes 7! LOL

Thanks..

I had a great time! I shall be back..hopefully stay later. Just a long drive from FH when ya gotta get up early the next morning.

[The evil fish]

Thanks..

I had a great time! I shall be back..hopefully stay later. Just a long drive from FH when ya gotta get up early the next morning.

No explanation needed - its just peer pressure and we're good at peer pressure!

[hunhee]

No explanation needed - its just peer pressure and we're good at peer pressure!

o0o0 I wanna feel pressure.. from.. umm.. friends.. oh wait.. NM.. :goth phade:

[The evil fish]

o0o0 I wanna feel pressure.. from.. umm.. friends.. oh wait.. NM.. :goth phade:

Ok, we'll put the squeeze on ya! :-)

[Ice Queen (1)]

Ice Queen - Spook - I had no idea you were Spook from DGN! LOL! Next time introduce yourself as Spook from DGN... then again, I now know you're Spook from DGN so I guess that makes it unnecessary! :-)

Ice Queen, the pics are cool - I have taken them into the bathroom 6 times already and I may again before I'm finished with this post!

BTW Spook - Ron From Draconian is having shoulder problems and is having surgery this week on it. They will be doing a full show in February in which you will see what you expected.... and next time I will make sure the equipment is left up til the end of the night.... I guess that means you guys missed me getting whipped?

Drags

Ice Queen - that makes 7! LOL

I didn't tell him you were the evil fish, either. I am a bad DGNer. Maybe I need some discipline?

I saw you get a couple hits, I would have been more then happy to give you more, but you got down so fast, and I didn't have any instruments to use. I will gladly make use of the equipment if it is there and available

And WTF? Only 7?

[The evil fish]

I didn't tell him you were the evil fish, either. I am a bad DGNer. Maybe I need some discipline?

I saw you get a couple hits, I would have been more then happy to give you more, but you got down so fast, and I didn't have any instruments to use. I will gladly make use of the equipment if it is there and available

And WTF? Only 7?

Ok ok! I didn't want anyone to think I was chronic - 22 - is that better?

U should have picked up a table and whacked me! I will make sure the instruments are available next time you cum.

And u need discipline even on good days!

[hunhee]

Ok ok! I didn't want anyone to think I was chronic - 22 - is that better?

U should have picked up a table and whacked me! I will make sure the instruments are available next time you cum.

And u need discipline even on good days!

Can I watch?

[The evil fish]

Can I watch?

Watch what? Spankings, Whacking or my 32nd time with Ice Queens pics?

[GothicRavenGoddess (3)]

Who I saw/talked to:

Deathfearsnone: he was my ride to this event, and I'm VERY glad I got to go. Too bad it was a slow night, but I saw the potential in what it could be.

The Evil Fish: Sean, thanks for all the hugs and a for being such a great host!!! (and the shirt! )

XillaToxic: Great to see you! Looked like you were working hard.

TheGimp: it was great hanging out with you! I'm extremely proud of you, participating in the suspensions. 4

hooks, not two. Jesse, don't worry, you didn't break my hand. (He's squeezed it, as they were pulling out the hooks)

Skyfire: we didn't talk much, but it was great seeing you again.

pRick: thanks for the drink. you are so nice. too bad you took off... Jesse didn't hang that long after you left. ya old fart. lol (j/k)

Hunhee: STOP with the putting yourself down or whatever! you are beautiful!!!

Burrich1: great seeing you again. man, you can move, out there on the dance floor...

Ice Queen and Spook: I'm so glad that she dragged you out there. lol great to see you two again.

My ONLY two complaints: the huge gaps in the acts, and one of the "act"... seriously.... girls getting off on stage? uh, NO. Please get rid of that... that's kinda ugh...

anyways... as for everything else, the music was great. I would have loved to hear more industrial. Other than that, it wasn't a bad night, as I was HANGING OUT WITH MY FRIENDS AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE MUSIC.

I left shortly after they pulled Jesse down.

Thanks, again Sean. I had a great time. Too bad the place was so empty. That event has the potential to take off. I can't wait for it to reach its full glory.

[n0Mad]

one of the "act"... seriously.... girls getting off on stage? uh, NO. Please get rid of that... that's kinda ugh...

She wasn't even getting off. She was just sitting there like, "Tee hee hee ... look at me. I'm doing something naughty. Tee hee hee. Am I supposed to be feeling something? This kinda tickles, but whatever. Tee hee hee ... I can't orgasm, I'm not feeling anything. Okay, this is kinda lame. Tee hee hee."

Please, I've seen chicks get off harder from eating a cheeseburger than that chick was sitting on the Sybian.

[The evil fish]

Who I saw/talked to:

Deathfearsnone: he was my ride to this event, and I'm VERY glad I got to go. Too bad it was a slow night, but I saw the potential in what it could be.

The Evil Fish: Sean, thanks for all the hugs and a for being such a great host!!! (and the shirt! )

XillaToxic: Great to see you! Looked like you were working hard.

TheGimp: it was great hanging out with you! I'm extremely proud of you, participating in the suspensions. 4

hooks, not two. Jesse, don't worry, you didn't break my hand. (He's squeezed it, as they were pulling out the hooks)

Skyfire: we didn't talk much, but it was great seeing you again.

pRick: thanks for the drink. you are so nice. too bad you took off... Jesse didn't hang that long after you left. ya old fart. lol (j/k)

Hunhee: STOP with the putting yourself down or whatever! you are beautiful!!!

Burrich1: great seeing you again. man, you can move, out there on the dance floor...

Ice Queen and Spook: I'm so glad that she dragged you out there. lol great to see you two again.

My ONLY two complaints: the huge gaps in the acts, and one of the "act"... seriously.... girls getting off on stage? uh, NO. Please get rid of that... that's kinda ugh...

anyways... as for everything else, the music was great. I would have loved to hear more industrial. Other than that, it wasn't a bad night, as I was HANGING OUT WITH MY FRIENDS AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE MUSIC.

I left shortly after they pulled Jesse down.

Thanks, again Sean. I had a great time. Too bad the place was so empty. That event has the potential to take off. I can't wait for it to reach its full glory.

Thank you so much - that means a lot.

The girl on stage - that was suppose to be a little more hidden... next time it will be lol.

[The evil fish]

She wasn't even getting off. She was just sitting there like, "Tee hee hee ... look at me. I'm doing something naughty. Tee hee hee. Am I supposed to be feeling something? This kinda tickles, but whatever. Tee hee hee ... I can't orgasm, I'm not feeling anything. Okay, this is kinda lame. Tee hee hee."

Please, I've seen chicks get off harder from eating a cheeseburger than that chick was sitting on the Sybian.

LOL! Thats why it's suppose to be hidden - so they can.

[Ice Queen (1)]

Ice Queen - Spook - I had no idea you were Spook from DGN! LOL! Next time introduce yourself as Spook from DGN... then again, I now know you're Spook from DGN so I guess that makes it unnecessary! :-)

Ice Queen and Spook: I'm so glad that she dragged you out there. lol great to see you two again.

Hey Spook! We've been coupled! I told you we wouldn't be able to keep it secret!

Ok, here comes the whole story.....

Spook and I met several years ago, at a whipping clinic. It was love at first crack, so to speak. We have kept it secret from the everyone, all this time, fearing condemnation. We just finally got to the point where the living separately, being in relationships with other people, and pretending not to know each other was too much. We thought we could steal a few precious moments together posing as friends in a rather diverse crowd, but you guys caught on to us, and now it is all out in the open.....

wait, now that it's not a secret anymore, it doesn't turn me on. I think we need to talk, Spook.

[GothicRavenGoddess (3)]

oh stop, a blind man could see you two dig each other. silly... so oblivious I swear....

[damagedangel]

Other than that, it wasn't a bad night, as I was HANGING OUT WITH MY FRIENDS AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE MUSIC.

I really don't think this was necessary. I wasn't in the wrong for voicing my opinion. I've already stated that I liked the songs that he was playing, just OVERPLAYING the same bands.

*edited cause I wanted to.

[The evil fish]

I really don't think this was necessary. I wasn't in the wrong for voicing my opinion. I've already stated that I liked the songs that he was playing, just OVERPLAYING the same bands.

*edited cause I wanted to.

Now now, lets be nice to each other - don't make me break out a hippie side and start preaching about love and harmony and weed!

No - I asked for it, said I welcome it and you voiced you're opinion and had every right too. No hard feelings from this side at all.

[Ice Queen (1)]

oh stop, a blind man could see you two dig each other. silly... so oblivious I swear....

Apparently, you did not catch me checking out a tall, young, piece of meat, or grabbing another young man's ass.

Before you guys get your panties in a wad......I know you aren't all just pieces of meat. I'm sure you are all great and have "feelings" and such, and a lot to offer, blah, blah, blah. But, until I actually talk to a piece of eye candy that is 10 or more years younger then me, they are merely meat, cougar that I am See, the one I knew, I called young man.

[n0Mad]

oh stop, a blind man could see you two dig each other.

Actually, I was kinda digging on that blond who did the suspension which is odd because I normally don't like blonds. Something about her though just piqued my interest. Anyone know who she is and want to make the introduction? Me wants, go fetch.

[DJ Nocker]

Well, here's my two cents for what its worth.

First of all, our count through the door fluctuates, and has been good for only being open for 5 weeks (not including the 2 weeks we weren't open for the holidays) and we anticipated a low door count last night because it being the first open night after NYE which is always the case this time a year but neither the less, there was still a decent crowd there and several people even commented that there were more there than we or they anticipated. So I'm not to worried about last nights count - as long as its more than we thought there would be, we're fine. It has been 60 to 80 people and I would say that a good half of who was there were repeat guest.

As for the DJ... I can't help to bring this out... that which you all already brought out - it was all DJ's complaining or saying they could do a better job. Ya see, I'm not just a guy trying to run a night at a bar, I'm also in a band which most of you all know. This is very similar to what I've seen bands do when they go to a venue and watch other bands. "Oh man, he screwed that solo up"... "man, I could play circles around their drummer".... etc! Hell I do it. When there is someone performing and doing something you also do - you automatically start to critique them and find everything bad about them instead of relaxing and having a good time and getting into the spirit of the night.

Circus Obscene isn't about the DJ and it isn't a dance only night. We have acts and people performing and it is meant to be a mixture of lifestyles, acts, music and people with a foundation of Industrial Goth. Some people were calling it a "Goth Night" and just yesterday I had to correct some people on Myspace calling it a "Techno Night" .... God, that is the last thing we want to be called.

Now don't think I'm not listening - I did say if anyone had some complaints that they should let me know and I will ponder on them and weigh the pros and cons - but I will also say, just as was said last night, most of what was being played was requested and our DJ goes with the flow... we've had some nights that I heard more Techno because the crowd kept wanting that, some nights its more old school Industrial and some nights you have people wanting to hear more main stream or harder driven music mainly because of the activity going on out on the floor and stage. The majority of the crowd has stated to me and others that they like our DJ and last night was the only time we have had any complaints and that was from DJ's. The majority of the crowd are not DJ's and had no complaints. Now from a business point of view, you weigh the pros and cons. I'm certainly not going to fire my DJ if only 1 out of 5 nights we had complaints. I am going to speak with him and I am definitely going to tell him that I don't want friends of his hanging out at the booth begging him to play song after song by Ministry which is what I think was going on last night. And I did notice too much being played by Ministry and Prodigy. So don't think you're alone. I don't think I'm gonna even give any thought to 2 Zombie and Rammstein tracks being played - we're open for 5 hours. 2 of each in that amount of time to me isn't even something I feel should be a complaint.

You also need to understand that most of the time we have guest DJ's coming in. And they have their own playlist they do which may be completely different than the norm here at CO. So far it's been great. And, I invite you all to book a night and come in and do a set or two. That's what we do. We try to provide a place where instead of you being hidden nameless in a booth, you can be placed in the limelight and show people what you got. You never no... you might be so good that we may tell ya to come back as a regular the next week.... but I have to see it. As for activity and acts - last night was slow compared to all the other nights and again, mainly because we anticipated a smaller crowd and were trying to limit saving it until we we're gonna have a bigger night. More people came in and we had Nizzle do more than he had thought he was going to do. Normally we have 2 to 3 people suspensions and fire breathing all through out the night.

As for the seconds of dead air well that was a mix up with Draconian's act and when that Depeche Mode song did come back on - its because that was the song Draconian was doing their act to. Nothing is scripted or rehearsed and sometimes we have seconds to get something right and that was just a glitch but certainly not worth the attention it got in fact I can't believe I'm even on here explaining that considering what kind of night it is - that will happen from time to time. I was not aware of the bar speakers being on until 2/3rds though the night - I personally don't like them either and will demand they not be turned on again... that pissed me off too.

No disrespect towards you. As you know, I know you all at a somewhat personal level and was very glad to see you last night and hope to see you again, not as a paying customer but as a friendly face but... I think the complaints here are a bit overboard.... warranted and listened too but overboard in their context.

I want to make a few things very clear,

First of all, none of us are bashing you becuase we want you to fail, its actually the opposite. Alot of us are from dead-line and we switched our night from Thursday to Wednesday becuase we dont want the scene to compete against each other more than it has to, the scene is to small as it is. This is not some plan to get people to hate your night so that they wil go to another. I did enjoy several aspects of the night, the performances were really cool, and the layout of the place is neat, I also like what was done with the lights, The drinks were pretty good to. Although, none of those things are what make me enjoy a club, its the music...

That being said, its true that alot of the people who said something about the DJ were in fact DJ's (myself included) but we werent the only ones saying something, just the only ones that went up to you guys and said it. There was more than one person that said " Oh My God another freaking NIN song!?" you guys did play alot of songs by the same bands last night, particularly NIN and Ministry. I dont deny that alot of those were requests, but how many of those were requests from people running the night or close friends of the people running the night? And you guys did say it was centered around a goth industrial scene...so I would expect to hear some goth music, or at least some music that isnt highly influenced by the "metal" genre and there for not really easy to dance to. I also expect to hear a couple songs from the same band through out a 5 hour club night, it happens, but not 3 songs apart from each other, and certainly not more than 2 songs from the same band...unless the place was completly dead when the first songs were played. I got there at around 11 and heard at least 5 NiN songs before I left at 1:30...thats a little ridiculous. The numbers for the Manson and minisrty were very high as well but oh well. its not that I dont enjoy the bands, Its that if I wanted to listen to an album worth of the same band..I would have stayed at home, could have been my favorite band playing and I would have had the same thoughts.

We did make some requests, The did not have the majority of the music and had to download it right then and there, you should already have a good amount of music with you, and its not like we were requesting really obscure stuff either... All we are saying is you may want to give a little more variety in the music you play, as you said, its supposed to be a diverse night and when all I heard last night was NIN, Ministry, Prodigy, and Manson...that doesnt seem to diverse. Its the same reason I dont go to Necto anymore, Im no longer a fan of the majority of the music played at the club. I hope your night stays alive and grows, but i wil not be coming again unless I hear a change in the music or am asked to help in a Draconian show. Its not worth the 40 minute drive.

[deathfearsnone]

Apparently, you did not catch me checking out a tall, young, piece of meat, or grabbing another young man's ass.

Before you guys get your panties in a wad......I know you aren't all just pieces of meat. I'm sure you are all great and have "feelings" and such, and a lot to offer, blah, blah, blah. But, until I actually talk to a piece of eye candy that is 10 or more years younger then me, they are merely meat, cougar that I am See, the one I knew, I called young man.

i got dark meat and some say its yummy

[n0Mad]

Sluagh, you and I were finally in the same place at the same time and we didn't know it? Damn!

[Ice Queen (1)]

i got dark meet and some say its yummy