Homicidalheathen Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 A shocking story yeah, but if its not fit for kids, why put one on your pet..eh? Father uses dog collar to shock kids The Salem man faces four charges of mistreatment By Stacey Barchenger • Statesman Journal May 6, 2009 By Stacey Barchenger • Statesman Journal • May 6, 2009 A Salem man was arrested Tuesday for putting an electric dog collar on each of his four children and shocking them. Todd Marcum, 41, said he did it "because he thought it was funny," Salem Police Lt. Dave Okada said. The four children, ages 3, 6, 8 and 9, had been shocked while wearing the collar at least once, according to a statement from their father, Okada said. Marcum told police that he would chase the 3-year-old boy around with the collar, making him cry at the thought of being shocked. Okada said that because of the boy's behavior, it is likely that the children were shocked more than once. Oregon Department of Human Services workers on Tuesday summoned police to Marcum's Salem home. Marcum was taken into custody on four charges of first-degree criminal mistreatment. He is in the Marion County jail. The four children were left in the custody of their mother, Okada said. The case has been handed over to DHS. Dog shock collars are used in training and to control barking, said John Seroczynski, the national sales manager for D.T. Systems. The Dallas, Texas, company manufactures the electronic collars. It is unknown whether the collar used on the children was made by D.T. Systems. "There's not one collar made today that can actually burn a dog or a person," Seroczynski said. Most collars are powered by a 9-volt battery and don't produce a large enough shock to injure a person, he said. Seroczynski said it was not likely that the children were seriously injured. "He definitely would not have hurt them to the point that it would have damaged any organs or caused them to be hospitalized," he said. The charge of one collar is less powerful than that of a Taser, such as the kind used by police, he said. Seroczynski said the collars are not to be used on humans. "Regardless of what your kids are like, it's sure not going to cure any behavioral problems," he said. "Bottom line is, what he did was dead wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 ..how do you keep finding such horrid shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynxxxedangel Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Am I the only one who finds this slightly comical (especially when my neighbours' annoying, bratty kids come to mind)? Perhaps I need my head examined. P.S. I remember my grandmother mentioning something about keeping my mom, aunt, and uncle, on leashes, while shopping. I guess they didn't have buggies with seatbelts, back in those days. Edited May 12, 2009 by jynxxxedangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) I find it on weird news or weird universe. cause its a weird world we live in yo You know, if I were a drunk asshole it would be funny. If the kids were indeed brats...but me thinks this is bad for a kids mind. I bet pervs use these all the time in their 'training sessions' Personally I love electroshock play. Edited May 12, 2009 by Homicidalheathen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh_My_Goth Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Maaaaan.. Some people suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelingchrome Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I agree that this is wrong. DEAD F*CKING WRONG. I am in favor of a little appropriate spanking when necessary, but nothing at this level. However, I stopped dead in my tracks when I read this line... The four children were left in the custody of their mother, Okada said. The case has been handed over to DHS. Is DHS Department of Homeland Security? And if it is, why is the Department of Homeland Security getting involved in something like this? I believe that they shouldn't exist at all, but this is waaaay out of their jurisdiction in my mind. Aren't they the nanny organization set up to stop domestic terrorism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynxxxedangel Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) I wonder if it was an episode of The Simpsons that gave this goober the idea? Would only be fair if EVERYONE in the family had shock collars on. Edited May 12, 2009 by jynxxxedangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 you might be a redneck if...you use electric dog collars to keep your youngin's in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormKnight (1) Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Is DHS Department of Homeland Security? I have seen it before. It stands for Department of Human Services, usually the social workers and people who handle this type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TygerLili Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I am trying to figure out why this product exists at all. Whether you're shocking your children or your dog, it sounds like abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttogreh Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 As I understand it, the shock is about as disconcerting as getting hit by cold water from a spray bottle. That being said, being threatened with a spray bottle or a dog collar is mental abuse. Dogs, well... I wouldn't use a collar on a dog, but I would use a spray bottle. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynxxxedangel Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Found the clip. In a cartoon, shocking family members is pretty damn funny. In real life, it's sadistic. Simpsons Shock Aversion Therapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taysteewonderbunny Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I agree that this is wrong. DEAD F*CKING WRONG. I am in favor of a little appropriate spanking when necessary, but nothing at this level. However, I stopped dead in my tracks when I read this line... Is DHS Department of Homeland Security? And if it is, why is the Department of Homeland Security getting involved in something like this? I believe that they shouldn't exist at all, but this is waaaay out of their jurisdiction in my mind. Aren't they the nanny organization set up to stop domestic terrorism? DHS = Department of Human Services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taysteewonderbunny Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I am trying to figure out why this product exists at all. Whether you're shocking your children or your dog, it sounds like abuse. There's supposedly no real damage from those kinds of collars, but there is a kinder alternative on the market now for dogs--instead of shocks, it delivers high frequency noises dogs find annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs....0441&Ref=AR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs....0441&Ref=AR That's the guy? Isn't it bad enough he gave those kids his DNA? He had to zapp 'em too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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