Detroit beheading case

[Homicidalheathen]

http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story/New-T...Zcy0BlWWOg.cspx

he felt abused by his mother

[Slogo]

Well I definitely think he should behead people then.

Even if I did feel threatened by someone, I know that I wouldn't have to go all Henry VIII on them to diffuse the situation

[ttogreh]

I don't care if you were abused by your mother. I don't care if you were waterboarded every day for ten years. If you have the presence of mind to attempt to destroy the evidence, you had the presence of mind to not commit the crime in the first place.

These sociopaths need to stay locked up forever.

[TitsMcGee]

I don't care if you were abused by your mother. I don't care if you were waterboarded every day for ten years. If you have the presence of mind to attempt to destroy the evidence, you had the presence of mind to not commit the crime in the first place.

These sociopaths need to stay locked up forever.

+50 million

[Guest Megalicious]

I don't care if you were abused by your mother. I don't care if you were waterboarded every day for ten years. If you have the presence of mind to attempt to destroy the evidence, you had the presence of mind to not commit the crime in the first place.

These sociopaths need to stay locked up forever.

I think that is a black and white view. Not that I am rationalizing what this boy has done - and yes we must remember he is A BOY, but there are circumstances to which we do not understand.

The mind is a strange place. We do things sometimes that we do not understand, and we do regret. I am not saying that it makes it right, it doesn't. Beheading someone and burn their body is ... frightening. But I can't help but think, its takes a lot to get to that point and I can empathize.

I think back to all the things I did at 19 , when I was young and stupid. If all those flaws, all those things I wish to tuck away deep down in my "closet" I regret, I cry, I try and justify, to process the emotional turmoil. This boy will have to live with his choice the rest of his natural life, he will have to live with the fact everyday that he has taken someone else's life - as he should ...

Some times people do things out of emotion, rather then logic. We panic, we do shit under any OTHER NORMAL circumstance we wouldn't. So when I say "black and white" view, what I mean is ... he may not be sociopathic. He may have made the wrong choice at the wrong time..... his choice was just ... a little more .. uummmmm... deeply impacting.

Its sad for both sides.... two lives lost..... a lose, lose situation.

[pomba gira]

I think that is a black and white view. Not that I am rationalizing what this boy has done - and yes we must remember he is A BOY, but there are circumstances to which we do not understand.

The mind is a strange place. We do things sometimes that we do not understand, and we do regret. I am not saying that it makes it right, it doesn't. Beheading someone and burn their body is ... frightening. But I can't help but think, its takes a lot to get to that point and I can empathize.

I think back to all the things I did at 19 , when I was young and stupid. If all those flaws, all those things I wish to tuck away deep down in my "closet" I regret, I cry, I try and justify, to process the emotional turmoil. This boy will have to live with his choice the rest of his natural life, he will have to live with the fact everyday that he has taken someone else's life - as he should ...

Some times people do things out of emotion, rather then logic. We panic, we do shit under any OTHER NORMAL circumstance we wouldn't. So when I say "black and white" view, what I mean is ... he may not be sociopathic. He may have made the wrong choice at the wrong time..... his choice was just ... a little more .. uummmmm... deeply impacting.

Its sad for both sides.... two lives lost..... a lose, lose situation.

I agree with much of this... yes this was a horrific crime but we don't learn anything, or do anything to prevent this kind of tragedy, by just writing off the perpetrator. Violence has its own life, once violence enters a situation none of the humans involved have control over what happens. Like Meg, I am not trying to excuse or justify anything, just trying to gain some perspective on how something like this could happen. One thing is for sure, the "lock 'em up and throw away the key" approach doesn't prevent this kind of thing. Maybe if everyone started treating everyone better we wouldn't have so many of these occurrences.

...but that "self defense" thing is the kind of lawyer talk I despise. I have a hard time seeing how self-defense would ever require you to decapitate & burn someone.

[TygerLili]

If you google the names, you'll see there was a lot more going on than what is mentioned in this article.

In this case, sorry, I'm not buying the "poor me I was abused and threatened story." This kid is a sociopath who needs to be kept away from the rest of us, and his accomplices aren't much better. There's no way this was a "self-defense" killing.

[jynxxxedangel]

It takes quite a bit of brute force, or sawing of bone and tendon, to behead someone.

I've been angry enough to kill, and have acted upon those feelings (thankfully, no one died at my hands)-- but I just can't imagine having a ghost like that (brutally beheading my own mother) rolling around in my head, and thinking about it every day, and being faced with it, for the rest of my life.

Enough said.

Edited June 20, 2009 by jynxxxedangel