Abortion Part 10001

[Oh_My_Goth]

so now your supporting MURDER?

No offense Phee...but I am sure that the Nazi's think the same way...cept all the ppl they believe need to be aborted are Jewish.

Do you just log on when you want to start shit with people?

[Rev.Reverence]

you'll knock off a concave metal cup placed in the canal of the female right before the womb??

....so your going into porn, right?...lol

FIRST OFF...I was in porn already.

SECOND...YES, I can see how a smaller man, with little to no book learnin' (Kama Sutra, possition 347 anyone?) may have sex, in the missionary position to climax & not displace this thing (stupid anyways, no matter what method of contraception you use, pull out too!)...that, having touched many a cervix, they are kinda' squishy...'specially next to my rock hard rod

THIRD...I did a quick search...& the 100% you gave is bullshit.

See that finger...that finger is between 3-4 inches, at best (it is a female finger)...I'm nearer 8.

I am certainly not trusting any Doctor that sais this thing won't move.

DIAPHRAGM AND CERVICAL CAP

* A diaphragm is a flexible rubber cup that is filled with spermicidal cream or jelly.

* It is placed into the vagina over the cervix, before intercourse, to prevent sperm from reaching the uterus.

* It should be left in place for 6 to 8 hours after intercourse.

* Diaphragms must be prescribed by a woman's health care provider, who determines the correct type and size of diaphragm for the woman.

* About 5-20 pregnancies occur over 1 year in 100 women using this method, depending on proper use.

* A similar, smaller device is called a cervical cap.

* Risks include irritation and allergic reactions to the diaphragm or spermicide, and urinary tract infection. In rare cases, toxic shock syndrome may develop in women who leave the diaphragm in too long. A cervical cap may cause an abnormal Pap test.

...how to not knock up a Lady (FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAIN)? Don't put your dick in her.

[phee]

so now your supporting MURDER?

No offense Phee...but I am sure that the Nazi's think the same way...cept all the ppl they believe need to be aborted are Jewish.

I am quite certain that you are familiar with the concept of sarcasm sir.

[Rev.Reverence]

so now your supporting MURDER?

No offense Phee...but I am sure that the Nazi's think the same way...cept all the ppl they believe need to be aborted are Jewish.

D00D!

That is SO not cool!

There were a whole bunch of peoples that the Nazi-death-machine ate up that were absolutely NOT Jewish, as well! I know, I'm completely off topic...but, fuck this shit...I can't hold it any longer.

Ignoring the non-Semitic peoples that died in the Holocaust is STILL ignoring the Holocaust...

MODS: ya'll can go ahead & make this a different thread if you want...but, that's pretty much me piece.

[bean]

So let me get this straight, Rev. With the "cap" 5-20 pregnancies occur in 100 women. Gee, the birth control pill I am on is more effective than that!

When taken correctly and consistently, YAZ is 99% effective at preventing pregnancy. This means that your chance of becoming pregnant is one in 100, if you take YAZ as instructed by your doctor or healthcare provider.

What's that? 1 in 100 women get pregnant on Yaz, a birth control pill?! That's even better than the "cap"!

Edited September 9, 2009 by bean water

[Slogo]

whoa...heated

[bean]

whoa...heated

It's one of those topics that lights people's fires

Edited September 9, 2009 by bean water

[phee]

Yes infact someone has played the all powerful Nazi card...

[Rev.Reverence]

So let me get this straight, Rev. With the "cap" 5-20 pregnancies occur in 100 women. Gee, the birth control pill I am on is more effective than that!

What's that? 1 in 100 women get pregnant on Yaz, a birth control pill?! That's even better than the "cap"!

As a matter of fact...YES.

...shit, the rhythm method is 18-20%

...condoms (wen I use them) are 86%

...then, there is the fact, that I pull out anyways... + some

...the Doctors don't even KNOW that in Tantra, we take a WHOLE lot longer to even get close to getting off...

...& that in Tantra, we practice OTHER forms of Yoga (like Raja 'mind')...so, I can tell my bodywierd things, like slow the heart, quicken the heart, I AM NOT MAKING BABIES TONIGHT/I AM MAKING A BABY RIGHT NOW, MAY IT BE BLESSED...& the like, oh, & other stuff, like...heal.

...& that through such rigorous Yogic exercises, we in fact, become quite keenly aware that the 'pre-cum' is happening...I always pull out, & rub the drip out of the urethra for 'good mojo' in the matter...

I think...wait; lemme' do the math...last (we'll use ten years, it's nice & round, & I was nowhere near as careful before that) ten years...I have 1 kid from that period (planed, prayed, & chanted for him)...

WOW! That makes my method 100 per-mutha'fuckin'-cent effective

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Look Ma'...I used the sarcasm!

_{*REV skulks off to pray the prayer of humility for that braggin' there*}

Edited September 9, 2009 by Rev.Reverence

[bean]

Yay, sarcasm!

[IsleofRhodesEnt]

Do you just log on when you want to start shit with people?

Cuz I'm not allowed to represent the side of "hey...if you don't want to deal with the consequences, don't do the act"?

shocker...well...not here...forgot no-one can have an opinion here that disagrees with "Public Opinion" on this board.

However, facts are facts....WAY too many abortions are performed for the simple fact that they don't want to DEAL with the consequences. It's not medical or anything else, simply the fact that they don't want a child messing up their life.

The statement of "it's a choice...we shouldn't HAVE too if we don't want to." is a cop-out response and attitude.

And while the Diaphram or a temporarily installed Cervical Cap is NOT 100%, the chances of getting pregnant with a properly installed PERMANENT Cervical Cap (Dated a woman for a couple years that had the after-pregnancy installation done...works just fine) are beyond insane...as in non-existant. Their non-existant because the PERMANT INSTALLATION CAP is made to UN-REMOVABLE without a medical procedure that is FAR more complex then "my dick is above average size".

[IsleofRhodesEnt]

D00D!

That is SO not cool!

There were a whole bunch of peoples that the Nazi-death-machine ate up that were absolutely NOT Jewish, as well! I know, I'm completely off topic...but, fuck this shit...I can't hold it any longer.

Ignoring the non-Semitic peoples that died in the Holocaust is STILL ignoring the Holocaust...

MODS: ya'll can go ahead & make this a different thread if you want...but, that's pretty much me piece.

poorly stated in my part...but the comparision is still there, regardless.

I was not ignoring the non-Semitic's that died in the Holocaust.

That being said, I am POSITIVE that the attitude of "I know people alive now that should be aborted" was very much a reality among the Nazi Party, as well as among all other groups that dwell on hateful discrimination.

[phee]

poorly stated in my part...but the comparision is still there, regardless.

I was not ignoring the non-Semitic's that died in the Holocaust.

That being said, I am POSITIVE that the attitude of "I know people alive now that should be aborted" was very much a reality among the Nazi Party, as well as among all other groups that dwell on hateful discrimination.

And you missed the statement that was sarcstic correct?

[Rev.Reverence]

Cuz I'm not allowed to represent the side of "hey...if you don't want to deal with the consequences, don't do the act"?

shocker...well...not here...forgot no-one can have an opinion here that disagrees with "Public Opinion" on this board.

You should read what went down in the thread about welbutrin from last night, & then apologize to the O_M_G for that rudeness.

However, facts are facts....WAY too many abortions are performed for the simple fact that they don't want to DEAL with the consequences. It's not medical or anything else, simply the fact that they don't want a child messing up their life.

The statement of "it's a choice...we shouldn't HAVE too if we don't want to." is a cop-out response and attitude.

And while the Diaphram or a temporarily installed Cervical Cap is NOT 100%, the chances of getting pregnant with a properly installed PERMANENT Cervical Cap (Dated a woman for a couple years that had the after-pregnancy installation done...works just fine) are beyond insane...as in non-existant. Their non-existant because the PERMANT INSTALLATION CAP is made to UN-REMOVABLE without a medical procedure that is FAR more complex then "my dick is above average size".

Um...I can find no mention of any such thing on the intrawebs...ALL I get back is the shit I JUST READ about caps...I think you are lying, or were lied to.

[IsleofRhodesEnt]

And you missed the statement that was sarcstic correct?

no...but just because a statement is sarcastic doesn't make it any less a view shared by groups that are historically and racially reviled, does it?

Because if it does, then one could make the arguement that many of the "hate-speeched" of the KKK, Neo-Nazi party, and the like, were siad in Sarcasm, and therefore not ment to be hurtful or hate driven.

Even if we take away the Nazi, or racial, part, it's still a statement, sarcastic or not, that comes across in the support of murder, if not Euthenasia.

[phee]

Dude...

What do you think about people who murder abortion doctors?

[Rev.Reverence]

IEOR...what the fuck do youths n aisa have to do with this?

[IsleofRhodesEnt]

Um...I can find no mention of any such thing on the intrawebs...ALL I get back is the shit I JUST READ about caps...I think you are lying, or were lied to.

I seen it, Rev...her BF after me decided to pull it out with a pair of Needle nose Pliers. It's a metal cervical cap with four small tabs/claws that are clamped lightly into the flesh.

[bean]

Cuz I'm not allowed to represent the side of "hey...if you don't want to deal with the consequences, don't do the act"?

shocker...well...not here...forgot no-one can have an opinion here that disagrees with "Public Opinion" on this board.

However, facts are facts....WAY too many abortions are performed for the simple fact that they don't want to DEAL with the consequences. It's not medical or anything else, simply the fact that they don't want a child messing up their life.

The statement of "it's a choice...we shouldn't HAVE too if we don't want to." is a cop-out response and attitude.

And while the Diaphram or a temporarily installed Cervical Cap is NOT 100%, the chances of getting pregnant with a properly installed PERMANENT Cervical Cap (Dated a woman for a couple years that had the after-pregnancy installation done...works just fine) are beyond insane...as in non-existant. Their non-existant because the PERMANT INSTALLATION CAP is made to UN-REMOVABLE without a medical procedure that is FAR more complex then "my dick is above average size".

There are very differing views on this board on a few different topics. Sometimes it's not about the argument itself and more about how the argument is presented. If someone is rude and hostile when they present their argument, it won't be well received.

Edited September 9, 2009 by bean water

[Rev.Reverence]

I seen it, Rev...her BF after me decided to pull it out with a pair of Needle nose Pliers. It's a metal cervical cap with four small tabs/claws that are clamped lightly into the flesh.

Don't believe you...that hole, is for to let the blood out during the menstrual cycle...

...she'ld have died of toxic-shock-syndrome.

[IsleofRhodesEnt]

Dude...

What do you think about people who murder abortion doctors?

dear gods....

Phee...it's MURDER...it's not justified, thought they like to think so.

Murdering someone that is performing the proceedure is the same act as performing the proceedure yourself.

Your taking a life in an act that is neither war or self defense...and NO-ONE has the right, not as a choice or anything else.

We been over this...time and again...and my stand is the same: IF it's used in any other aspect then as an emergancy medical proceedure, then it is immoral, irresponsible, and can be termed very easily as MURDER...infact, the medical definition of Abortion and the definition of murder are much more similar then many would like to think about...something I have already PROVEN in an earlier thread on the same subject.

[Oh_My_Goth]

I would just like to say that if someone has to refer to a child as "a consequence" they have to "deal with" they should have just gotten an abortion so that soul has a chance to go on to a better situation.

[phee]

It seems to me.... that if the point had been PROVEN, there would no longer be a discussion about it.

[Slogo]

"How come when it's us it's an abortion? And when it's a chicken, it's an omlett?"

Okay, sooner or later someone was going to throw Carlin in there, it was me

[Rev.Reverence]

Cuz I'm not allowed to represent the side of "hey...if you don't want to deal with the consequences, don't do the act"?

shocker...well...not here...forgot no-one can have an opinion here that disagrees with "Public Opinion" on this board.

You should read what went down in the thread about welbutrin from last night, & then apologize to the O_M_G for that rudeness.

...hey..D...I mean it...you owe her an apology.

Her stance in this thread is different than the populous as well.

I would just like to say that if someone has to refer to a child as "a consequence" they have to "deal with" they should have just gotten an abortion so that soul has a chance to go on to a better situation.

How ZEN.

"How come when it's us it's an abortion? And when it's a chicken, it's an omlett?"

Okay, sooner or later someone was going to throw Carlin in there, it was me

Edited September 9, 2009 by Rev.Reverence