Cloves Banned by the FDA!

[Oh_My_Goth]

This is Jacked up I didn't think they would really do it

[Raev]

wtfx

[Oh_My_Goth]

I know.. I am baffled by this

[Oh_My_Goth]

& This >>HERE.. Where have I been??

[Tacohitts]

The a-hole government believes this is a country only for kids,(so when they are adults they get the same treatment we have gotten)yes I will wonder what else they will ban I know they banned freedom of speech.government needs to stay the f&^% out of everyones personal lives!wait till another Jim Jones happens.

[jynxxxedangel]

I was totally expecting something like this, due to the push for nationalised health care. Smoking is a liability. Just wait, it's going to be bans and restrictions on what we're allowed to eat, next...

[Scales]

I had heard a rumor that hookah was going to be banned and after reading this that might be the case.

EDIT: Behind..

http://www.healthkicker.com/712874096/the-ban-on-flavored-cigarettes-too-little-too-late/

Damn.. I would've tried those.

Edited September 30, 2009 by Scales

[Simon Bar Sinister]

1) clove cigs are the only ones that shouldn't be banned.

2) there goes the goth scene. glad the Lab's not around to see this.

[Oh_My_Goth]

1) clove cigs are the only ones that shouldn't be banned.

2) there goes the goth scene. glad the Lab's not around to see this.

I know.. No more Djarum Blacks?? What will they do?

[Destroit]

Hey, we all voted for change didn't we?

I didn't. Thanks to everyone who did for me .

YAY OBAMA! What will you fuck up NEXT?! I can't wait to wake up and see tomorrow's news.

Edited September 30, 2009 by Chernobyl

[Oh_My_Goth]

Hey, we all voted for change didn't we?

I didn't. Thanks to everyone who did for me .

YAY OBAMA! What will you fuck up NEXT?! I can't wait to wake up and see tomorrow's news.

I honestly don't know if it would have made a difference what douche was voted in

[jynxxxedangel]

I had heard a rumor that hookah was going to be banned and after reading this that might be the case.

I don't think Uncle Sam will get away with banning shisha. There would be people of Arabic descent rioting in the streets, and raising all sorts of hell!

[KatRN05]

Not really surprised. As mentioned in a previous post, they are seeing things like smoking and drinking as liabilities. Soon they will be taxing your Mt. Dew or Diet Coke or Cheetos. I think the Governor in NY wanted to tax the obese or something to that effect.

[Destroit]

I honestly don't know if it would have made a difference what douche was voted in

I do, that's why I vote. I know McCain wouldn't have made cloves illegal and tried to push some socialist freeloader healthcare system...hence why I voted for him . Cap and trade wouldn't have happened, he probably wouldn't have made a ridiculous stimulus "bailout" plan that costed us billions that we'll never get back, etc. Oh well. The thing I hate is that I DIDN'T vote for him and yet still have to deal with this shit.

[KatRN05]

The problem with the bailouts is now everyone wants a bailout. The government cannot possibly bailout everyone. They shouldn't have passed that bailout bill. It's not working, thousands and thousands of people remain unemployed. I don't know what's going through our reps' brains right now. They are too concerned about saving some freaking fish than the people who are losing their homes, jobs and businesses.

[candyman]

I was called crazy a few years ago when I said tobacco would be targeted...now what?

Obama should never have signed a company over to the FDA when it has already paid its dues and has followed every rule since then. However, they know what is best for us so we should listen to them...listen to the same people that believe that companies are still putting ads in circulation, sending ads to kids in the mail, and handing out free cigarettes to kids on campus. I loved cloves but I can't really argue against people that have the ability to still be living in 1970.

[Destroit]

For the record, Obama doesn't give TWO FUCKS about the children of America, neither does the FDA. Why do I say that? Why not ban high fructose corn syrup, additives to food, harmful food dyes, ALL trans fat (none of that 0g per SERVING stuff, it still has trans fat in it, what bullshit), aspartame, monosodium glutamate, HARMFUL chemicals on our produce, and the harmful antibiotics, pesticides, and poisons that our livestock are forced inhumanely to consume and then is indirectly fed to us when we eat these animals?

But cloves. That's the number one threat to our kids? What a fucking joke. I have absolutely no respect left for this President and didn't really have much to start with in the first place.

Edited September 30, 2009 by Chernobyl

[Raev]

Some info -

This is the official bill

Occurred: Introduced Mar 3, 2009

Occurred: Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments

Occurred: Reported by Committee Mar 4, 2009

Occurred: Amendments (80 proposed) View Amendments

Occurred: Passed House Apr 2, 2009

Occurred: Passed Senate Jun 11, 2009

Occurred: Signed by President Jun 22, 2009

That info comes from this website.

Don't just thank the president for this one. Don't forget to give a special thank you to the House and Senate.

[Homicidalheathen]

Whats next oregano? LOL

[TheGimp]

so...legalize marijuana to a degree? but make cloves illegal? hmmmmmm

[Rev.Reverence]

I do, that's why I vote. I know McCain wouldn't have made cloves illegal and tried to push some socialist freeloader healthcare system...hence why I voted for him . Cap and trade wouldn't have happened, he probably wouldn't have made a ridiculous stimulus "bailout" plan that costed us billions that we'll never get back, etc. Oh well. The thing I hate is that I DIDN'T vote for him and yet still have to deal with this shit.

The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids says more than 1,000 organizations, including public health and faith groups, joined to support the bill, which passed overwhelmingly in both the House and Senate.

Alphabetical by Senator Name

Akaka (D-HI), Yea

Alexander (R-TN), Nay

Barrasso (R-WY), Yea

Baucus (D-MT), Yea

Bayh (D-IN), Yea

Begich (D-AK), Yea

Bennet (D-CO), Yea

Bennett (R-UT), Nay

Bingaman (D-NM), Yea

Bond (R-MO), Not Voting

Boxer (D-CA), Yea

Brown (D-OH), Yea

Brownback (R-KS), Nay

Bunning (R-KY), Nay

Burr (R-NC), Nay

Burris (D-IL), Yea

Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting

Cantwell (D-WA), Yea

Cardin (D-MD), Yea

Carper (D-DE), Yea

Casey (D-PA), Yea

Chambliss (R-GA), Nay

Coburn (R-OK), Nay

Cochran (R-MS), Yea

Collins (R-ME), Yea

Conrad (D-ND), Yea

Corker (R-TN), Yea

Cornyn (R-TX), Yea

Crapo (R-ID), Yea

DeMint (R-SC), Nay

Dodd (D-CT), Yea

Dorgan (D-ND), Yea

Durbin (D-IL), Yea

Ensign (R-NV), Nay

Enzi (R-WY), Yea

Feingold (D-WI), Yea

Feinstein (D-CA), Yea

Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea

Graham (R-SC), Nay

Grassley (R-IA), Yea

Gregg (R-NH), Yea

Hagan (D-NC), Nay

Harkin (D-IA), Yea

Hatch (R-UT), Nay

Hutchison (R-TX), Yea

Inhofe (R-OK), Nay

Inouye (D-HI), Yea

Isakson (R-GA), Nay

Johanns (R-NE), Yea

Johnson (D-SD), Yea

Kaufman (D-DE), Yea

Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting

Kerry (D-MA), Yea

Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea

Kohl (D-WI), Yea

Kyl (R-AZ), Nay

Landrieu (D-LA), Yea

Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea

Leahy (D-VT), Yea

Levin (D-MI), Yea

Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea

Lincoln (D-AR), Yea

Lugar (R-IN), Yea

Martinez (R-FL), Yea

McCain (R-AZ), Yea

McCaskill (D-MO), Yea

McConnell (R-KY), Nay

Menendez (D-NJ), Yea

Merkley (D-OR), Yea

Mikulski (D-MD), Yea

Murkowski (R-AK), Yea

Murray (D-WA), Yea

Nelson (D-FL), Yea

Nelson (D-NE), Yea

Pryor (D-AR), Yea

Reed (D-RI), Yea

Reid (D-NV), Yea

Risch (R-ID), Yea

Roberts (R-KS), Nay

Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea

Sanders (I-VT), Yea

Schumer (D-NY), Yea

Sessions (R-AL), Yea

Shaheen (D-NH), Yea

Shelby (R-AL), Yea

Snowe (R-ME), Yea

Specter (D-PA), Yea

Stabenow (D-MI), Yea

Tester (D-MT), Yea

Thune (R-SD), Yea

Udall (D-CO), Yea

Udall (D-NM), Yea

Vitter (R-LA), Yea

Voinovich (R-OH), Yea

Warner (D-VA), Yea

Webb (D-VA), Yea

Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea

Wicker (R-MS), Yea

Wyden (D-OR), Yea

...ooooooo...so sorry Doll, but, Mr.McCain voted, "Yea"...so, I doubt he would have used the Presidential Veto....maybe, you should look these things up before making such wild claims...I'm just sayin'...

Ok...lemme' tell you why the Cloves got the ban.....they are imports. No Lobby to protect them...

I'ld be HAPPY, if they did something REAL to make smoke less addictive...

...like, say, if they stopped spraying Vanilla on Marlboros...

..& the hundreds of other things that they spray on other brands of tobacco...TO MAKE IT MORE ADDICTIVE!

...seriously; why do we need to make THE..MOST..ADDICTIVE..SUBSTANCE..MORE..ADDICTIVE..? {bold words are the words of a recovered heroin addict}

[TheGimp]

. {bold words are the words of a recovered heroin addict}

and whats trippy about this and i don't know from experience but correct me if I am wrong...didn't studies show that it was easier to detox from heroin then Cigarettes

Edited September 30, 2009 by TheGimp

[Raev]

I had heard a rumor that hookah was going to be banned and after reading this that might be the case.

If you read the official text - the hookah tobacco is effected by this.

[Rev.Reverence]

and whats trippy about this and i don't know from experience but correct me if I am wrong...didn't studies show that it was easier to detox from heroin then Cigarettes

...I am not certain about that, nor could I figure out where to look this up..but, it does ring a bell...if memory serves, it was an anti-tobacco group that was spouting this...I have known several junkies that kicked...& for the most part they smoked cigs for quite some time after kickin' ...so, I quote those guys...I'm still mad at the doctors for fuckin' my nervous system up in the 80s...

...Oh NOES!...not the hookah!

.....well, honestly, if you want your tobacco to be REALLY nice; you mix it yourself

Edited September 30, 2009 by Rev.Reverence

[jynxxxedangel]

If you read the official text - the hookah tobacco is effected by this.

Prepare for all of Dearborn to be rioting in the streets. The Arab-American folks AREN'T going to take it lightly. The custom of shisha is very deeply rooted in Arabic culture, and they will take this as a personal blow.

I think the entire thing is absolutely LUDICROUS, myself. I ask you all-- WHAT'S NEXT? Things aren't going to get any better. Small indulgences that we all enjoy and take for granted are going to disappear, one by one, until people get angry enough...and then....

Edited September 30, 2009 by jynxxxedangel