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So Chicago lost their bid for the 2016 Olympics, and the first thing Illinois Senator Burris does is blame it on George Bush. Seriously, how in the hell is Rio de Janeiro getting the 2016 Olympics Bush's fault? I'm just pissed that President Obama wasted tax payers dollars to go over to Denmark in the first place to stump for the Olympics, seeing as I don't really thing it was his place to do so. He should have just left that to Chicago's mayor. Especially since he's been going all over the world apologizing for anything and everything America does, so it's no surprise we didn't get the Olympics as the IOC must think we're a very shitty country.

But that's just my $.02 worth, what's yours?

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I'm not surprised one bit.

The Obamas blew it.

First Barrack goes all over the world apologizing for America, and essentially saying America sucks.

Then he and his wife go over there and how do they pitch Chicago as a place for the Olympics? By talking about Themselves.

The egos have landed lol.

And as far as Senator Burris goes, it is the typical Democrat thing to do when something doesn't go their way; Blame Bush.

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Every time he shows up on a morning talk show, a late night talk show, has another prime time speech, or like this time, throws himself into a battle that he really doesn't need too... he looses a little more political clout. He has as yet to give a State of the Union address.

He needs to get his priority's straight. He should have stayed home and worked with his Generals on a plan for Afghanistan.

Or worked with members of Congress on a healthcare reform bill that the People will accept.

I wonder if the 9.8% unemployment rate (17% counting people that no longer get unemployment payments)mean anything to him.

Did GM's decision to close Saturn (otherwise known as "GM's only profit center")get his attention?

How about Iran's medium range missile tests? Or the UN saying that Iran has the tech to make a nuke?

Why exactly is he backing Manuel Zelaya?

This is what we get for electing an inexperienced personality rather than an experienced leader.

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who gives a FUCK?!?!?!?

Really though!

...if you don't think that America has anything wrong with it...lemme' just point to how WE treat EACH OTHER!...you know, yelling & screaming at each other through rolled up windows (like we can hear each other)...the rich, sending as many jobs away to other places, so they can increase already astronomical profits...the race war, class war, norms against frieks.....then, there's the bunch that throw insults across the sea towards other countries for shit like, I don't know, choosing not to fight a wart they feel is wrong...there are plenty of things that America should apologize for, & well, we did elect HIM...I'm just wondering when he is going to make it around to apologizing to US for the shit his rich friends have done to this country.

...& Gaf...what's so wrong with President Zelaya?

NEVER, have his peoples LIKED a Pres more...from what I heard...

The President of Honduras was ousted in a military coup yesterday when troops arrested him in his pyjamas and sent him into exile in Costa Rica.

The military action against President Zelaya, the country’s most popular President in recent history, raised fears of widespread violence as supporters took to the streets, throwing stones at army lorries and shouting: “Traitors! Traitors!”

President Obama called for calm, saying that “existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully”, and a State Department official said that Mr Zelaya was the only “elected and constitutional” leader of Honduras. The EU condemned the coup, while the Organisation of American States called an emergency meeting at its headquarters in Washington.

The UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki Moon, called for Mr Zelaya to be reinstated.

OH...& it WAS Bush, that let all his rich friends throw OUR JOBS overseas, to make an extra buck, that they did not need!

...OH...& he's the one that DID let the no bid contracts get HANDED OUT!

.....OOOOOOOH...& it WAS him that started the war in Iraq...(how much has that costed now?)

...OH..& I am STILL waiting for an apology...from SOMEONE... :p

Oh...& Obama, & Bush, are the cut from the same cloth, they are just a different pattern...get used to it, or get out!

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So Chicago lost their bid for the 2016 Olympics, and the first thing Illinois Senator Burris does is blame it on George Bush. Seriously, how in the hell is Rio de Janeiro getting the 2016 Olympics Bush's fault? I'm just pissed that President Obama wasted tax payers dollars to go over to Denmark in the first place to stump for the Olympics, seeing as I don't really thing it was his place to do so. He should have just left that to Chicago's mayor. Especially since he's been going all over the world apologizing for anything and everything America does, so it's no surprise we didn't get the Olympics as the IOC must think we're a very shitty country.

But that's just my $.02 worth, what's yours?

1) Rio had it in the bag; Obama hadn't been involved with Chicago's bid (other than rooting them on) and didn't decide to go over there 'til last weekend when it became apparent to the Chicago delegation that they were going to lose. In football, they call that a Hail Mary pass. Given the tens of thousands of jobs that it would bring to the Chicago area between now and the end of the 2016 Olumpics, it was worth a shot.

2) Rightly or wrongly, the IOC blames the US Olympic Committee for the massive corruption scandal surrounding the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.

3) Do any of you apologize when you do something wrong? Seriously, you all sound like a bunch of 5-year-olds.

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1) Rio had it in the bag; Obama didn't decide to go over there 'til last weekend when it became apparent to the Chicago delegation that they were going to lose. In football, they call that a Hail Mary pass. Given the tens of thousands of jobs that it would bring to the Chicago area between now and the end of the 2016 Olumpics, it was worth a shot.

2) Rightly or wrongly, the IOC blames the US Olympic Committee for the massive corruption scandal surrounding the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.

3) Do any of you apologize when you do something wrong? Seriously, you all sound like a bunch of 5-year-olds.

:secret: THEY...think America has done NOTHING wrong ;)

:rolleyes:

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Oh shit is has been done...Bush has been blamed.

Seriously, it was Chicago and nothing could ever bring the Games to that city while there are other choices...especially choices in areas where the Games have never been held and where the people can throw one hell of a party.

And maybe while we are on the subject of jobs we should look at how getting Chicago ready for the games would have been a waste of money and only a short glimmer or hope for people having jobs. Instead of the local government using the money to help the people they should spend it all on a giant sports complex.

Seriously why are we blaming people and stuff just because the Games didn't come to the US? There is probably more important information and less conflict coming from the people that have farting contests. Who gives a shit? So are we saying that every time there is a vote for where the Games are to be held that the countires that don't get picked have done something wrong they should say sorry for and that those same countries had horrible leaders that sealed their fate in the IOC? Good god we have become stupid...

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:secret: THEY...think America has done NOTHING wrong ;)

:rolleyes:

Nah...its more of a "THEY...think America has done just about as much as anyone else and is we keep blaming people and countries was are joing to get jack shit as far as progress and just more fighting"

This is called drama...and before we break any nails lets just remember that this is the last thing our panties need to be bunched up for.

...if you don't think that America has anything wrong with it...lemme' just point to how WE treat EACH OTHER!...you know, yelling & screaming at each other through rolled up windows (like we can hear each other)...the rich, sending as many jobs away to other places, so they can increase already astronomical profits...the race war, class war, norms against frieks.....then, there's the bunch that throw insults across the sea towards other countries for shit like, I don't know, choosing not to fight a wart they feel is wrong...there are plenty of things that America should apologize for, & well, we did elect HIM...I'm just wondering when he is going to make it around to apologizing to US for the shit his rich friends have done to this country.

Dude it happens everywhere...not all of the same stuff but it still happens. You also forgot the bunch that throws insults across the sea for people choosing to fight in a war that they feel is right...or does that side not count?

As long as we keep blaming Bush for all this shit while not trying to do anything about it then nothing will get better. You know, I bet we could find a small handful of people to blame for all the problems in the US, kill them, and then it will be all better.

I want the pictures, GPS locations, and anything else you can get me on these spotless countries that you are holding the US up to...that includes their elected leaders, common people, and business owner both big and small.

I blame Sweden for this mess...

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I want the pictures, GPS locations, and anything else you can get me on these spotless countries that you are holding the US up to...that includes their elected leaders, common people, and business owner both big and small.

I blame Sweden for this mess...

..why...do you insist on putting words into people's mouths?

I did not say that there was any countries that were 'spotless'...though, Luxembourg, Switzerland, & The Republic Of Malta are ALL in the running, or so I've heard...

...what I say, is that there ARE wrong things in America, & that America has done...if you are insulted by this TRUTH, do not read my posts...I was not even talking about your post, all YOU did, was to come in here & bash the shit out of Chicago.....to what end? Just to get a rise out of SOMEONE, I must suspect...

...well, I'll have to agree that Sweden is NOT helping with all of that hate-filled-black-death-metal they are exporting.....

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1) Rio had it in the bag; Obama hadn't been involved with Chicago's bid (other than rooting them on) and didn't decide to go over there 'til last weekend when it became apparent to the Chicago delegation that they were going to lose. In football, they call that a Hail Mary pass. Given the tens of thousands of jobs that it would bring to the Chicago area between now and the end of the 2016 Olumpics, it was worth a shot.

2) Rightly or wrongly, the IOC blames the US Olympic Committee for the massive corruption scandal surrounding the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.

3) Do any of you apologize when you do something wrong? Seriously, you all sound like a bunch of 5-year-olds.

I am frankly glad Rio got it, since South America has never had an Olympics before. I'm just pissed off that Obama felt the need to WASTE thousands of dollars of tax payers money for a freaking Hail Mary pass. Then to make it look like he was actually doing something for the good of the country while he was over there, he talked with General McCrystal for 30 minutes while the Air Force One was on the tarmac idling..wasting more money by the second by keeping the plane running while they were talking. Also the majority it people living in Chicago didn't want the Olympics to come there in the first place.

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..why...do you insist on putting words into people's mouths?

I did not say that there was any countries that were 'spotless'...though, Luxembourg, Switzerland, & The Republic Of Malta are ALL in the running, or so I've heard...

...what I say, is that there ARE wrong things in America, & that America has done...if you are insulted by this TRUTH, do not read my posts...I was not even talking about your post, all YOU did, was to come in here & bash the shit out of Chicago.....to what end? Just to get a rise out of SOMEONE, I must suspect...

...well, I'll have to agree that Sweden is NOT helping with all of that hate-filled-black-death-metal they are exporting.....

I just don't recall any posts saying that America was not to blame for anything...at least not in this thread.

I mean where did this come from?

"...if you don't think that America has anything wrong with it...lemme' just point to how WE treat EACH OTHER!...you know, yelling & screaming at each other through rolled up windows (like we can hear each other)...the rich, sending as many jobs away to other places, so they can increase already astronomical profits...the race war, class war, norms against frieks.....then, there's the bunch that throw insults across the sea towards other countries for shit like, I don't know, choosing not to fight a wart they feel is wrong...there are plenty of things that America should apologize for, & well, we did elect HIM...I'm just wondering when he is going to make it around to apologizing to US for the shit his rich friends have done to this country."

or this...

"THEY...think America has done NOTHING wrong"

Isn't that putting words into someone mouth?

I really do think we have some things to repent for as a country...however, I believe that many of these things happened before Bush and that what we are dealing with now it the aftermath of giving the finger to a few countries around the Kennedy era...and none of it has anything to do with who gets the vote for the Olympic bid.

I may have a personal beef with Chicago...but the history of that city shows alot of problems too. Their city just has a feeling of bitterness and anger. Every time I go there only about 1 out of every 10 people even looks at me...and fewer even say high. It always seems like they are bothered by you being in their store of restaurant. And their homeless...yeah they came up here to Milwaukee to preach to us about our homeless problem...the only problem is that they have more homeless people and fewer programs to help them with. I was not looking to get a rise out of anyone...I just hate the place with a passion.

When its all said and done Chicago lost because of the cities it was put up against...Chicago never had a chance. And its not the death metal its the weird fish they eat and the $8 beer that has little to no alcohol per volume in it.

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...& Gaf...what's so wrong with President Zelaya?

NEVER, have his peoples LIKED a Pres more...from what I heard...

The fact that he was trying to break his own countries laws and circumvent thier Constitutiuon to stay in power? The fact that thier own Supreme Court ordered him out of power for abuse of power and breaking thier constitutional laws? The fact that thier Congress approved of that order?

and yes, he does have some very loyal followers... hence the military throwing him out of the country to avoid a bloody civil war.

Keep looking at only one side of the coin... the other side is the one that is going to bite you on the ass.

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I just want to know why we can't be happy that South America FINALLY gets to share in the Olympics as a host? Only South America and Africa have yet to have Olympic Games in any of their countries.

It wasn't Chicago, or Obama, or anything US that had to do with Chicago not getting the games. For those paying attention, it was the fact that one of the guys on the IOC happens to be the FORMER President of Brazil...or something real close to that. It also has to do with the fact that the current President made the very simple arguement of "South America has yet to host the Olympic Games".

It's a WORLD event...and yet all I hear is how pissed everyone is that WE didn't get to host it..AGAIN.

Congrats, Rio....if you show a love for the Games like you do soccer...it's gonna be a hell of an event!!

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Really though!

...if you don't think that America has anything wrong with it...lemme' just point to how WE treat EACH OTHER!...you know, yelling & screaming at each other through rolled up windows (like we can hear each other)...the rich, sending as many jobs away to other places, so they can increase already astronomical profits...the race war, class war, norms against frieks.....then, there's the bunch that throw insults across the sea towards other countries for shit like, I don't know, choosing not to fight a wart they feel is wrong...there are plenty of things that America should apologize for, & well, we did elect HIM...I'm just wondering when he is going to make it around to apologizing to US for the shit his rich friends have done to this country.

OH...& it WAS Bush, that let all his rich friends throw OUR JOBS overseas, to make an extra buck, that they did not need!

ACTUALLY, it was Clinton who started NAFTA and pushed for more global trade as said here.

http://www.historycentral.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html

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ACTUALLY, it was Clinton who started NAFTA and pushed for more global trade as said here.

http://www.historycentral.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html

...yeah, & Bush did not stop it...where it is bad to do something, it is worse to sit by & let it keep happening...if you think for a moment, that Bush was sad about the $ slippin' out of the pockets of the working class, you are sadly mistaken...he only cares for his own Tribe, & we, ain't in that.

.....& Bush & Clinton are cronies...everybody seems to forget, they even ate at the same table as each other several times...

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The fact that he was trying to break his own countries laws and circumvent thier Constitutiuon to stay in power? The fact that thier own Supreme Court ordered him out of power for abuse of power and breaking thier constitutional laws? The fact that thier Congress approved of that order?

and yes, he does have some very loyal followers... hence the military throwing him out of the country to avoid a bloody civil war.

Keep looking at only one side of the coin... the other side is the one that is going to bite you on the ass.

TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) - Ousted President Manuel Zelaya sneaked back into Honduras on Monday almost three months after he was toppled in a coup, and took refuge in the Brazilian embassy to avoid arrest by the de facto government.

Zelaya's ouster on June 28 in a dispute over presidential term limits plunged Honduras into its worst political conflict in decades, and was condemned by U.S. President Barack Obama, the European Union and Latin American governments.

Zelaya had been in exile mostly in Nicaragua while a de facto government that backed the coup against him became more entrenched in office, defying international calls to allow the leftist president to return.

But his sudden appearance in Honduras on Monday increased pressure on the country's ruler Roberto Micheletti to cede power and increased the chance of violent protests or a standoff at the embassy.

"I am the legitimate president chosen by the people and that is why I came here," Zelaya told Reuters by telephone from inside the Brazilian embassy.

Zelaya told reporters he had braved many obstacles, crossing over mountains and through valleys to avoid military checkpoints. He did not reveal which country he arrived in Honduras from.

"I was traveling for around 15 hours using different routes and different methods of transport to arrive here and call for dialogue, which is my role as the elected president of Honduras," Zelaya told Reuters by telephone from inside the Brazilian embassy.

Several thousand Zelaya supporters gathered outside while a military helicopter clattered overhead and a small group of police stood some 100 yards (meters) away.

The United States called for restraint in Honduras, one of the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere and a staunch U.S. ally during Cold War conflicts in Central America.

Micheletti, a conservative, wants Zelaya arrested on charges of corruption and trying to change the constitution, but the president was defiant.

"I still haven't known fear in my 57 years," he said.

Soldiers toppled Zelaya at gunpoint and sent him into exile in his pajamas after he upset Congress, the military and conservative opponents, who accused him of wanting to change the constitution to allow presidents to seek reelection. Honduran business leaders also distrusted his alliance with Venezuela's socialist president, Hugo Chavez.

Zelaya was due to leave office in January after elections in November but denied he was seeking to extend his rule.

U.S. URGES RESTRAINT

Obama has cut U.S. aid to Honduras since the coup and pushed for Zelaya's return but refused his demands for tougher sanctions against the coup leaders. His administration called on all sides to remain calm following Zelaya's return.

"At this point, all I can say is reiterate our almost daily call on both sides to exercise restraint and refrain from ... any activities that could provoke violence," said State Department spokesman Ian Kelly.

Latin American leftist governments have accused the Obama administration of not doing enough to force Zelaya's return to power.

Micheletti, whose government is not recognized internationally, earlier on Monday vowed to have Zelaya detained.

"The moment that we know he has entered the country we are going to go ahead with his arrest. We have search and capture teams to carry out his arrest," Micheletti told Reuters before news broke that Zelaya had taken refuge in the embassy.

His government later imposed a night-time curfew across the country "to conserve calm".

Honduras is a major coffee producer but exports so far have not been affected by the crisis.

Brazil, Latin America's economic powerhouse which is seeking more political and diplomatic weight, has been thrown into the center of the Honduras conflict with Zelaya's decision to take refuge in its Tegucigalpa embassy.

In New York, Brazilian Foreign Minister Celso Amorim said he was hopeful Zelaya's return could start a new stage in negotiations to end the Honduran crisis and said his country was happy to play a role in any future settlement.

The head of the Organization of American States, Jose Miguel Insulza, said Honduras' de facto rulers "should be responsible for the safety of President Zelaya and the Brazilian embassy."

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I did not read the same articles as you...so, I guess you are right...& I, once again, don't know shit...or, that's what the peoples who wrote whatever you read & believed want you to think, & that's fine...you are apparently happy with that view.

...& I'm happy to be where I am, knowing, fully, & truly, that the Left, & the Right, are both lying a lil' bit, & that they (both sides) are in fact, 1 bird, that wants to eat everything it sees...

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