Did Adam Lambert go too far at the AMAs?

[Raev]

BUT I still say what I said before.. If people didn't like it.. They didn't have to watch it.

The problem with this statement doll....is that it was a *surprise* moment.

[Destroit]

The problem with this statement doll....is that it was a *surprise* moment.

Yes, hence my analogy, the poor one at that, about if you took your kid to something that is supposed to be kid friendly, say Sesame Street Live, you would have all right to expect to NOT see Big Bird blow Snuffalufagus (sp, I know, who the hell DOES know how to spell that?), you would definitely have allllll rights to be in an outrage. If you took your kid to see something like, a fetish show, you would have NO right to be angry at sexuality because you KNOW and were previously made aware that it is a performance that is not suitable for children.

[TygerLili]

I personally don't care because 1) I am an adult, and 2) I don't watch that crap anyway. However, given that it was a family oriented show on prime time television, I think kissing (either gender) is fine, simulating oral sex (with either gender) is not appropriate.

Welllll...normally I would full-heartedly agree with this, AMAs are geared FOR family viewing. That would be like taking your kids to go see Sesame Street Live KNOWING that it is a kids' show, or at least kid friendly show, and then Big Bird gives Snuffalufagus head...now do you see the problem?

[phee]

This is true... if you walk into a place to get a hair cut, and someone slaps you in the face with a large brown carp.... one could easily say: "Don't get your haircut there." but the problem is that would imply that the person who is the said "carp slap victem" knew that a fish would be used to attack him upon entering... it was a surprise.

On the other hand if you walk into get a hair cut, and the name of the place is "Carp Face Slap Hair Cuts Inc." Then yes... you could choose at that point to go elsewhere.

[Oh_My_Goth]

The problem with this statement doll....is that it was a *surprise* moment.

From what I read, I got the impression that it was the whole performance that was 'risque'.. Are yous talking about the kiss, or the face to crotch thing?

As a parent, I would have turned it off from the beginning.

[Raev]

From what I read, I got the impression that it was the whole performance that was 'risque'.. Are yous talking about the kiss, or the face to crotch thing?

As a parent, I would have turned it off from the beginning.

I would have turned it off the moment a line got crossed. The problem with that is - the line has to be crossed, first.

Mind you, I am also discussing this as a hypothetical. I didn't watch.

[Rev.Reverence]

From what I read, I got the impression that it was the whole performance that was 'risque'.. Are yous talking about the kiss, or the face to crotch thing?

As a parent, I would have turned it off from the beginning.

YES...it was an unplanned hi jink.

link to where they have the footage.

[Rev.Reverence]

Link where it is TOTALLY OBVIOUS that it was a maverick action...oh, & he is playing the 'gay-male' card.

[n0Mad]

Was Madonna or Britney fined for their VMA kiss? No, it was technically appropriate and the VMAs are geared toward a more mature demographic.

And it was planned and rehearsed, and the media was talking about it before it even happened. So, viewers knew what they were in for.

[Oh_My_Goth]

I would have turned it off the moment a line got crossed. The problem with that is - the line has to be crossed, first.

Mind you, I am also discussing this as a hypothetical. I didn't watch.

I see what you're saying.. I just don't think those kind of shows are for kids anyhow *shrugs* I guess I'm just a different kind of gal that way.

[Oh_My_Goth]

YES...it was an unplanned hi jink.

link to where they have the footage.

My GAWD!!!!! Who would let their kid watch past the first 30 seconds to even get to that part??

[phee]

My GAWD!!!!! Who would let their kid watch past the first 30 seconds to even get to that part??

Unfortunatly bad taste is not bad parenting...

Some people do things with their kids that others would see as bad parenting all the time, and go unchecked.... one parents Adam Lambert, is another parents Barney

[EnViOuSPoPpEt]

they are just over reacting ..

[taysteewonderbunny]

I don't think it should be a kid-friendly show. At least, not for small children. For one, it's on at 11 p.m. For another, it's the American Music Awards, and while a small segment of the music may be intended for the teeny-boppers and pre-teens, I would say that the vast majority of the commercial audience is older and the themes are more mature. The videos, as shown on MTV and VH1, reflect this, as would likely the performers' live performances in concert. So why should the award show present performances incongruent with the fans' expectations? While I can understand limiting some aspects of the performance to be within FCC guidelines, I can't see making further incursions into the musicians' creative license as legitimate. Not while simultaneous to that broadcast there are grisly, horrifying murders depicted on other channels. Not while the news is sensationalizing the basest parts of human nature in highly edited video clips. Not while violence is glorified everywhere else can I get my dander up over someone having a little fun simulating sexual play on stage. And if it is new to your barely pubescent youngster, now is the perfect opportunity to explain precisely what your values are and why and answer honestly their questions.

Edited November 26, 2009 by taysteewonderbunny

[AstralCrux]

I don't think it should be a kid-friendly show. At least, not for small children. For one, it's on at 11 p.m. For another, it's the American Music Awards, and while a small segment of the music may be intended for the teeny-boppers and pre-teens, I would say that the vast majority of the commercial audience is older and the themes are more mature. The videos, as shown on MTV and VH1, reflect this, as would likely the performers' live performances in concert. So why should the award show present performances incongruent with the fans' expectations? While I can understand limiting some aspects of the performance to be within FCC guidelines, I can't see making further incursions into the musicians' creative license as legitimate. Not while simultaneous to that broadcast there are grisly, horrifying murders depicted on other channels. Not while the news is sensationalizing the basest parts of human nature in highly edited video clips. Not while violence is glorified everywhere else can I get my dander up over someone having a little fun simulating sexual play on stage. And if it is new to your barely pubescent youngster, now is the perfect opportunity to explain precisely what your values are and why and answer honestly their questions.

+50

I wouldn't let a child watch the music videos, so why would I let them watch the AMAs. Besides its alot boring for kids. (If I get bored, a kid would too.) Kids need to be protected from alot more than just what they can see at the AMAs. There is alot more than music that we should keep kids from. Censorship is what parents should be doing for children, not the government for parents for their children.

[Oh_My_Goth]

Unfortunatly bad taste is not bad parenting...

Some people do things with their kids that others would see as bad parenting all the time, and go unchecked.... one parents Adam Lambert, is another parents Barney

I wasn't referring to the quality of music.. I was referring to the scantly clad women being dragged around the stage by their feet & the dude crawling around on the leash.

Edited November 26, 2009 by Oh_My_Goth

[Slogo]

I'm probably not letting my kid (if there was one) stay up till eleven anyway. They probably wouldn't be up that late till they were 13 in my house. And at that point they have probably seen there first porn whether or not I wanted them to and they'll understand it a lil' bit better

[Rayne]

Wow, yeah ... I do NOT shield my kids from homosexuality. They have relatives who are gay, and I do not wish them to grow up thinking that is odd or unacceptable at all.

BUT --

That was a bit overboard for a "family show". I would have turned that off as soon as the first thing occurred.

I can remember seeing milder, but still sexually charged, performances from Madonna, when I was young ... but all the raunchy stuff was after 11 pm, as the FCC (I believe) had required.

I didn't see it, I don't usually watch too much tv, but didn't someone say it was on at 11 pm? That is usually the acceptable time frame for such things. There's no way my kids would be up that late watching tv.

Also noting, if it was 11 pm here, it was what? 8 pm in California? and 6 pm in Hawaii? Or was their's time delayed?

Edited November 26, 2009 by Rayne
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[Fidget(+)]

-gulp-

Theres actually a lot that I liked about the video (not the music played).

I agree it's not suitable for younger children...perhaps another channel would have been better...

[TygerLili]

After having watched the video, I would probably have changed the channel within the first minute. Not because of the song, or because of the "gay" element, but because the performance was more about blatantly pushing the envelope than it was about the music, which should be the point of this type of music awards show.

The overt sexual theme of it turned me off, and I knew what was coming. I imagine not knowing that the performance would turn into that would be quite appalling for the more conservative half of America. It would have been acceptable for the MTV VMAs, which is mostly about gimmicks anyway, but not for prime time.

What I find more annoying is that most of the performance was obviously pre-recorded and lip synced. I especially like how the singing and keyboard playing doesn't stop during the kiss, even though both artists mouths and hands are occupied. Now that's talent!

Edited November 27, 2009 by TygerLili

[Head Wreck]

I was never shielded from it either. but i was taught how to act appropriately and what is inappropriate

[Slogo]

What I find more annoying is that most of the performance was obviously pre-recorded and lip synced.....

If someone did that 20 years ago they'd wake up without a career.

EXHIBIT A ... skip to 15 second mark

[n0Mad]

EXHIBIT A

[jynxxxedangel]

You know, Rob Pilatus actually ended up dying of overdose, years later...

[Head Wreck]

that sucks