torn asunder Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 article... Under a Supreme Court ruling, the so-called endangerment finding is needed before the EPA can regulate carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases released from automobiles, power plants, and factories under the federal Clean Air Act. ok, everyone... STOP BREATHING!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I can't hold my breath for that long... ...but I will install a three stage CO2 scrubbing system on my lungs as soon as I can... And despite the major effort in trying to rid the world of GHGs they have yet to take any action against ethanol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralCrux Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 So, I need live house plants? How many do I need to make sure I'm not polluting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 So, I need live house plants? How many do I need to make sure I'm not polluting? I'm gonna quote the EPA and California here..."Just kill yourself...but make sure your corpse doesn't pollute" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creatureofthenyte Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 What this really means is that the government is trying to bs us into believing that Somehow, boning us into bankruptcy, by taxing us to death, and making us live in caves(cuz that's all we'll be able to afford to live in, after they get done taxing all our money away)is Somehow going to make the environment, and Our lives better. Hopefully, next year, enough of us will have the good sense to vote those country bankrupting Democrats out office while we still can. Because if we don't, then that would be one "I told ya so!" that I hope I never have to utter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry_darkness Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe I will install a nuclear reactor in my basement so I can heat my house without making Co2. Does anyone know if a nuclear reactor is safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormKnight (1) Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe I will install a nuclear reactor in my basement so I can heat my house without making Co2. Does anyone know if a nuclear reactor is safe? Try RTGs. They power all our deep space probes, have no moving parts, and are designed to be safe enough to survive a rocket blowing up around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torn asunder Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 you know, the thing that really got to me about this, the main reason i posted it was... how the fuck can you have something declared harmful to humans, wehn it's something that the human body naturally expels!? are you people (politicians) insane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 you know, the thing that really got to me about this, the main reason i posted it was... how the fuck can you have something declared harmful to humans, wehn it's something that the human body naturally expels!? are you people (politicians) insane? No, but they are mad. Mad with power and greed. This whole climate change/Global warming is one huge scam to make certain people richer. They (those pushing the idea) have been rather open about using fear and some are even open that they are over stating the "science" that backs thier claims. Now we find that some of the base figures could have been altered and the base data has been destroyed. Let me ask you this. Why won't NASA release thier base climate data even though they were ordered to to so by the Courts under a Freedom of Information Act request three years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 No, but they are mad. Mad with power and greed. This whole climate change/Global warming is one huge scam to make certain people richer (who don't have $ in oil, but are friends with those whom do). They (those pushing the idea) have been rather open about using fear and some are even open that they are over stating the "science" that backs thier claims. Now we find that some of the base figures could have been altered and the base data has been destroyed. Let me ask you this. Why won't NASA release thier base climate data even though they were ordered to to so by the Courts under a Freedom of Information Act request three years ago? ...I know what I said; that is all I see patterns. ...so, C.O.T.N. : Whom are we supposed to vote for? Republicans? Have you seen the way they act? ..not enough peoples are going third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I don't know who we are "sopposed" to vote for... I do know that I am not voting for anyone who doesn't publically admit to at least a small amount of doubt about "climate change". There is a 2000 scientist concensus that Global Warming is real and Man made... There is also a 30,000 scientist consesus that says it is not. Unless they acknowledge that fact, they wont get my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I don't know who we are "sopposed" to vote for... I do know that I am not voting for anyone who doesn't publically admit to at least a small amount of doubt about "climate change". There is a 2000 scientist concensus that Global Warming is real and Man made... There is also a 30,000 scientist consesus that says it is not. Unless they acknowledge that fact, they wont get my vote. That seems like a pretty good star to steer by, I must say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I am sure what we contribute is nothing compared to mounds and mounds of dinosaur poo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 ...I know what I said; that is all I see patterns. ...so, C.O.T.N. : Whom are we supposed to vote for? Republicans? Have you seen the way they act? ..not enough peoples are going third. Thirds are not immune to the "green" bug either...it seems like a flag that suits love to fly no matter what...it makes you look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creatureofthenyte Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thirds are not immune to the "green" bug either...it seems like a flag that suits love to fly no matter what...it makes you look good. The only green flag that politicians like to fly is the U.S. Dollar flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Everdark Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 you know, the thing that really got to me about this, the main reason i posted it was... how the fuck can you have something declared harmful to humans, wehn it's something that the human body naturally expels!? are you people (politicians) insane? My understanding of why the EPA made this declaration is so that the government has a basis upon which to regulate the artificial production of CO2. It may seem silly to declare it harmful, since (as aforementioned) pretty much every living thing on earth expels some carbon dioxide (even plants expel a little bit), but it gives the US government a starting to point to put pressure on big polluters to draw down their CO2 levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torn asunder Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) My understanding of why the EPA made this declaration is so that the government has a basis upon which to regulate the artificial production of CO2. It may seem silly to declare it harmful, since (as aforementioned) pretty much every living thing on earth expels some carbon dioxide (even plants expel a little bit), but it gives the US government a starting to point to put pressure on big polluters to draw down their CO2 levels. yeah, i get that it's an end-around, but it just irked me. i mean, hell, water is harmful to humans too, depending, but i don't see anyone making the same declaration about it, yanno!? (and don't even try to bring up dihydrogen monoxide!!) it was just the "1st impression" absurdity that got to me. Edited December 9, 2009 by torn asunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 The only green flag that politicians like to fly is the U.S. Dollar flag. Yep, thats what the "green" flag really is...they couldn't care less about the environment of health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 My understanding of why the EPA made this declaration is so that the government has a basis upon which to regulate the artificial production of CO2. It may seem silly to declare it harmful, since (as aforementioned) pretty much every living thing on earth expels some carbon dioxide (even plants expel a little bit), but it gives the US government a starting to point to put pressure on big polluters to draw down their CO2 levels. But.. there is no scientific proof that CO2 is a pollutant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creatureofthenyte Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 But.. there is no scientific proof that CO2 is a pollutant. It doesn't matter that this is all a hoax, they fudged the data to support their bogus claims, as a means to bankrupt us through taxation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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