Honor

[phee]

Or pull a Clinton and focus on the definition of "is"...

I am afraid you lost me again sir...

[Enishi]

When it comes to honor, what matters most is sticking to what you know and feel through personal experience to be right. That's the way I see it.

Edited January 27, 2010 by Enishi

[candyman]

I still remember in class when we were talking about chivalry, integrity, honor, class and all of that kinda stuff. It was good until we got to the part about opening doors for women. Most of the girls were pretty mad at the fact that guys didn't really see holding the door for women as something that was mandatory. However, one girl brought up a good point where she said that if women want to be equal that means that you should hold the door for anyone even if you are a woman...I don't really know if that fits here but I think it does. Respect has a place here and to me it kinda sucks when I hold the door for the women at work because its cold out...they are all higher up on the chain than me being managers while I just unload trucks...yet they never ever make a move to hold the door for me and my fellow co-workers. This sucks even more when you consider that they have the key to get in the damn building and we often get stuck outside for an extra 10 minutes until Kyle the other manager shows up.

Chivalry means to honor and serve and although it dictated how men treat women that needs to change. We live in an age where everything is "changing" except for how men treat women. If we want honor and all that jazz to take more of a priority we should really look at the situation we are in. I am not blaming the ladies here...just the shitty system we somehow developed for honor and such. I will treat women with respect and honor just like I do men...on a individual basis...if I treat you right I expect you to do the same for me since we are equals and vice versa.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I am afraid you lost me again sir...

Remember when Clinton was asked if he had "Sexual relations" with that woman and derailed the conversation by focusing on what the definition of "Sexual Relations" was...

[TygerLili]

For the definition that was given, I still think integrity is the correct term. In my case that means I honor what I believe is ethically correct: not killing, harming, or endangering another human or an animal, not cheating or stealing, not lying, keeping my word when I make an agreement, and trying to treat all people as fairly as possible. Other individuals, families, cultures, and religious groups may have different views on what is ethically correct.

When I looked at this thread, I assumed that it was going to be about "honor" meaning respect or reverence of someone or something (one's family, one's country, one's god(s), the law, etc.). There are a number of people and things that I respect, but it's because they have earned my respect. I don't respect things simply out of obligation or expectation, though I may abide by them. For example, when I was in school there were some teachers that I respected, and some whose rules I'd simply abide by because I was sitting in their class. I wouldn't say I honored that second group of teachers, I just accepted the fact the they technically had authority over me while I was in their class. I feel the same way about laws. Some laws I agree with and respect, while others I just abide by because I don't want to go to jail or pay a fine, but I may not personally agree with them.

In that sense I don't think it's a good thing to just blindly honor someone or something.

[phee]

Remember when Clinton was asked if he had "Sexual relations" with that woman and derailed the conversation by focusing on what the definition of "Sexual Relations" was...

Not trying to do that at all... just was wondering if your version of honor was the same as mine or others.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

For the definition that was given, I still think integrity is the correct term. In my case that means I honor what I believe is ethically correct: not killing, harming, or endangering another human or an animal, not cheating or stealing, not lying, keeping my word when I make an agreement, and trying to treat all people as fairly as possible. Other individuals, families, cultures, and religious groups may have different views on what is ethically correct.

When I looked at this thread, I assumed that it was going to be about "honor" meaning respect or reverence of someone or something (one's family, one's country, one's god(s), the law, etc.). There are a number of people and things that I respect, but it's because they have earned my respect. I don't respect things simply out of obligation or expectation, though I may abide by them. For example, when I was in school there were some teachers that I respected, and some whose rules I'd simply abide by because I was sitting in their class. I wouldn't say I honored that second group of teachers, I just accepted the fact the they technically had authority over me while I was in their class. I feel the same way about laws. Some laws I agree with and respect, while others I just abide by because I don't want to go to jail or pay a fine, but I may not personally agree with them.

In that sense I don't think it's a good thing to just blindly honor someone or something.

Well.. re-read the definition. Integrity is one aspect of honor. As for ethics, yes they very and following your own ethical system (what ever that may be) is an aspect of honor as defined.

As for your second paragraph... thats not what the thread is about.