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You left out the number one reason why Canada kicks ass. You Americans have the right to bear arms, we have the right to bare breasts. Canada wins.

Mmmmm...I'd much rather see guns than tits.

Guns are giant metal dicks that have the ability to kill someone upon shooting off a load. If that does not get you hot then you are clearly lesbian :tongue: . WAY more win than boring-ass boobies any day.

I will also say that until Canada has a "right to bear dicks" policy that you guys are a bunch of sexist pigs! :rofl: I'm actually only HALF joking about that...it is actually pretty damn sexist, imo.

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You left out the number one reason why Canada kicks ass. You Americans have the right to bear arms, we have the right to bare breasts. Canada wins.

But the ones that do show them.... you just dont want to see.... :ralph

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Should have just seen it in Windsor. It was crazy. Everyone was honking and flying flags out there windows/ doors of vehicles. Downtown was PACKED couldn't even walk anywhere. And to drive! People we bouncing the cars and hoping in strangers beds of the trucks. It was amazing. A great show of Canadian pride.

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I will also say that until Canada has a "right to bear dicks" policy that you guys are a bunch of sexist pigs! :rofl: I'm actually only HALF joking about that...it is actually pretty damn sexist, imo.

It's not sexist. Women cannot go bottomless here, nor can men. We simply have the same right to take off our shirts on a hot summer day that men do. It was sexist when only men could do it. Hooray for equality!

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He's good but damn, people act like he carried the entire team. Like he single-handedly won the fucking medal and the rest of the team were there to just support him.

if any one person won that medal, it was Mike Babcock. Canada played like shit in their first 3 games; he shook up the lineup (and yanked Brodeur), and the rest is history.

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It's not sexist. Women cannot go bottomless here, nor can men. We simply have the same right to take off our shirts on a hot summer day that men do. It was sexist when only men could do it. Hooray for equality!

Yes...but you're forgetting that most men see boobs as sexual. Women may look at a guy's pecs and see it as attractive but not outrightly as "genitalia". So I understand what you are trying to say but I disagree. Saying "boobs are just skin too" is the same as saying "dick is just skin" or "vagina is just skin". So it's either everyone gets to walk around full nude or you gotta cover up your dirty bits! That's my stance. As long as men look at bare tits and get a boner...it's genitals, not the same as pecs.

And as I have never actually asked a Canadian I am just speculating when I make the assumption that women walking around topless over there aren't doing so just because "it's a hot summer day and they feel like it" they're doing it so people will intentionally look and drool over their ta-tas.

I USED to actually be on your side of the issue but over the years have changed my mind after seeing what people are ACTUALLY like...not what I'd like them to be. I think men's obsession with baby-bags is fucking ridiculous and I'll never understand it myself, but it is what it is.

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Yes...but you're forgetting that most men see boobs as sexual. Women may look at a guy's pecs and see it as attractive but not outrightly as "genitalia". So I understand what you are trying to say but I disagree. Saying "boobs are just skin too" is the same as saying "dick is just skin" or "vagina is just skin". So it's either everyone gets to walk around full nude or you gotta cover up your dirty bits! That's my stance. As long as men look at bare tits and get a boner...it's genitals, not the same as pecs.

And as I have never actually asked a Canadian I am just speculating when I make the assumption that women walking around topless over there aren't doing so just because "it's a hot summer day and they feel like it" they're doing it so people will intentionally look and drool over their ta-tas.

I USED to actually be on your side of the issue but over the years have changed my mind after seeing what people are ACTUALLY like...not what I'd like them to be. I think men's obsession with baby-bags is fucking ridiculous and I'll never understand it myself, but it is what it is.

Depends on the woman doing it I suppose

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Some men get a boner looking at your feet.

Very few men compared to the entire general public. Most men inherently get a boner looking at boobs. Hell, I'm sure I can find you a guy that gets a boner looking at a pie. Something should be a law if it covers a decent amount of people, not just a handful. And since tits are very sexualized a decent amount of people object to having them public.

And as I said, I only think it's sexist because if we're doing the "skin is skin" thing then we should be going full nude. Zeroing in specifically on boobs is, imo, sexist. It's being specific towards one sex. Yes, it was like that with men for so many years where they could do stuff and we couldn't...but does two wrongs make a right? Equality with this (full nude) or nothing.

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How many men think a woman's neck is sexy? A LOT! I'm not wearing a turtleneck. Besides, just because something is perceived as "sexy" by 1% or 100% of the population, does not make it dirty and wrong.

As far as totally nude, I think that's pushing the limits. Do you really want a pedophile to have the freedom to whip his cock out and show your kids?

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How many men think a woman's neck is sexy? A LOT! I'm not wearing a turtleneck. Besides, just because something is perceived as "sexy" by 1% or 100% of the population, does not make it dirty and wrong.

As far as totally nude, I think that's pushing the limits. Do you really want a pedophile to have the freedom to whip his cock out and show your kids?

"Skin is skin" right? A cock shouldn't be viewed by anyone as dirty or wrong...should it? I thought that was how we were playing this.

So by your reasoning, no, full nude is not pushing the limits. Anything less is sexist and I stick to that. All or none.

I mean hell, being someone that hangs out only with males I can attest to the fact that they BITCH during the summer time about "swamp-nuts" as it's notoriously called. It would be rather rude of us to deprive them of their right to take off their pants and get comfortable on a hot summer day, no? I mean, if boobs aren't to be seen as dirty or wrong...then why should a dick?

Ehhhhp! I just realized how bad we're threadjacking. I'm donnnne, I've said my piece on it.

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"Skin is skin" right? A cock shouldn't be viewed by anyone as dirty or wrong...should it? I thought that was how we were playing this.

So by your reasoning, no, full nude is not pushing the limits. Anything less is sexist and I stick to that. All or none.

I never said "skin is skin" and that is not at all the reasoning behind the topless law.

Keep in mind that people said the same thing when women first started showing their calves in public. Women's legs were "different" from a man's legs and should be covered up. How did society's attitude change? Because a handful of women were willing to take the flack and be the first to show their ankles.

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when compared to europe (and apparently canada, as i'm seeing here) the US is just chock full of uptight people who can't stand the thought of a woman going topless. hell, in germany, you can see breasts on tv commercials after, like, 10-11pm, every day. the US needs to loosen up...

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Yes...but you're forgetting that most men see boobs as sexual. Women may look at a guy's pecs and see it as attractive but not outrightly as "genitalia". So I understand what you are trying to say but I disagree. Saying "boobs are just skin too" is the same as saying "dick is just skin" or "vagina is just skin". So it's either everyone gets to walk around full nude or you gotta cover up your dirty bits! That's my stance. As long as men look at bare tits and get a boner...it's genitals, not the same as pecs.

And as I have never actually asked a Canadian I am just speculating when I make the assumption that women walking around topless over there aren't doing so just because "it's a hot summer day and they feel like it" they're doing it so people will intentionally look and drool over their ta-tas.

I USED to actually be on your side of the issue but over the years have changed my mind after seeing what people are ACTUALLY like...not what I'd like them to be. I think men's obsession with baby-bags is fucking ridiculous and I'll never understand it myself, but it is what it is.

....breasts arent genitals, though. :p

and to be on-topic, the one thing ive always noticed about Canada? Its clean.... no trash on the side of the highway.....

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when compared to europe (and apparently canada, as i'm seeing here) the US is just chock full of uptight people who can't stand the thought of a woman going topless. hell, in germany, you can see breasts on tv commercials after, like, 10-11pm, every day. the US needs to loosen up...

Yes I do find it odd that we keep things so strict. Thank god for the FCC. I remember when I was in Latvia...porn and naughty commercials started at 10pm sharp...American porn with Latvian subtitles and Russian voice-overs which was weird...but still porn.

And Canada and America are BOTH very nice in one place...the Boundary Waters...you can even forget about hockey there!

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....breasts arent genitals, though. :p

Not technically but do men treat them and react to them as if they're genitals? You walk around with your tits out and you'll get the same amount of looks and men ogling you as you would walking around with your coochie hanging out. MEN consider them genitals, they have been bent on turning them into genitals for forever. Do I think they should be? No. Remember my first post where I failed to understand the obsession with women's baby-bags? That's REALLY what they're for. But men had to be all weird and put boobs as number one priority and that's why they're classed as genitals now for absolutely no sound logical reason, imo. Case in point: Cosmo, girls magazines, etc do not have many pictures of topless men to drool over. If you're lucky there's maybe only one or two pages. Maxim or any other non-pornographic men's magazine? Tits, turn page, tits tits tits, turn page, tits tits tits tits and ass. Men have made it very clear over the years that boobs are their main goal to attain and drool over...THAT is why I think it creates an uneven playing field.

Back to the topic at hand, I've only been to Canada twice. Once was when my Boshy and I decided to drive around Windsor to see if there was anything to do over there and we didn't even get to stop the car ONCE because well...we found out sadly that there was nothing to do in Windsor :laugh:.

The next time was Toronto which I liked a lot, we saw Phantom at the Pantages (sp?) in its final running year. Freaky story about that too, my roommate, Timata, was in the same theatre at the same time as me watching the same play allllll the way over in Toronto when we were both 13. We figured it out because we were talking about it a few months ago and he mentioned that he happened to see it on the ONE night that season where the understudy had to play the lead role and I remembered that I was at that exact performance also because my grandma was bitching about it being the understudy.

Soooo...freakishly...Canada brings together future friends ten years in the past...? Still an uncanny coincidence.

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