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Yep. And the Tea Party movement has been co-opted by the Neo-Cons. Sarah Palin is the spokesperson this year. The establishment has turned the whole endeavor into another aspect of the false Left/Right paradigm, encouraging us to bicker amongst ourselves, rather than focus on what's really happening in this country. Now it's Coffee vs. Tea while the Republicans and Democrats continue to lie to us and pass legislation that cripples us financially and abrogates our rights.

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Yep. And the Tea Party movement has been co-opted by the Neo-Cons. Sarah Palin is the spokesperson this year. The establishment has turned the whole endeavor into another aspect of the false Left/Right paradigm, encouraging us to bicker amongst ourselves, rather than focus on what's really happening in this country. Now it's Coffee vs. Tea while the Republicans and Democrats continue to lie to us and pass legislation that cripples us financially and abrogates our rights.

No, the "neo-cons" have tried to co-op the Tea Party movement. As yet, they is no central control of the Tea party and most likely never will be. Each local group operates indipendantly. Not all the groups even share the same beleifs. The Tea party groups are made up of people from all partys (mostly independants and republicans but a few democrats) and all diverse in race.

The coffe party on the other hand had a professional logo from day one. Thier first protest... had 137 or so coffee shops locations involved... each had about 14 people show up.

There were 8000 at my local Tea Party rally last week. We have rallys about twice a month and more come every time.

I'm sorry, but you are buying into the MSMs hype.

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No, the "neo-cons" have tried to co-op the Tea Party movement. As yet, they is no central control of the Tea party and most likely never will be. Each local group operates indipendantly. Not all the groups even share the same beleifs. The Tea party groups are made up of people from all partys (mostly independants and republicans but a few democrats) and all diverse in race.

The coffe party on the other hand had a professional logo from day one. Thier first protest... had 137 or so coffee shops locations involved... each had about 14 people show up.

There were 8000 at my local Tea Party rally last week. We have rallys about twice a month and more come every time.

I'm sorry, but you are buying into the MSMs hype.

The tea party if they do not want to be associated with Neo Cons should not associate with Sarah Palin

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The tea party if they do not want to be associated with Neo Cons should not associate with Sarah Palin

That's my main sticking point. While I agree that not all "tea party" gatherings are overseen by the Neo-Cons, the most vocal and visible group, the one traveling around the country with Sarah Palin, obviously is. Guess which group the media will be focused on. For all intents and purposes, the public perception will be that the Tea Party movement is being spearheaded by the Republican (Neo-Con) party. The fact that a large percentage of Tea Party adherents have conservative leanings and are still caught up in the idea that the Republicans and Democrats at the highest levels are in opposition, rather than being two sides of the same coin, adds to that perception. I'd be interested to know how many "End the Fed" signs are seen at the rallies of this group doing the national tour. Not many, if any, I'd be willing to bet. The emphasis will be on anti-Obama sentiment, which will feed into the idea that it's about Republican vs. Democrat, rather than Liberty vs. Tyranny, the concept that the Tea Party movement originally grew out of.

In April, there are three or four "documentaries" to be released, criticizing the Tea Party and like-minded groups as being "anti-government", violent, and racist. The Southern Poverty Law Center has been all over the major news outlets pushing this viewpoint. Why do you think they're busting "militia" groups all over the country right now? They're "priming the pump, so to speak, to get people to turn against anyone who opposes health care, Internet restrictions, body scanners, etc. Notice how you never hear the "militia's" side of the story or hear about legitimate militias getting busted. By "legitimate militias", I mean those groups who work with their Sheriff's Departments and operate under strict guidelines. I don't discount the possibility of a "false-flag" incident that gets blamed on the "anti-American" elements of society. This is not unprecedented and has even been admitted to by the government and military. Research the Gulf of Tonkin incident and subsequently declassified documents for the most egregious of these incidents that have been admitted to.

I don't want to encourage conspiracy-theory thinking here. I just want to encourage people to look into things on their own. Look at the past behavior of this (and other) governments, and keep an eye out for repeating cycles. Learn how those who would manipulate the government and public to achieve greater power operate. Use your innate discernment. If something sounds like it might be the least bit fishy, research it! As F.D.R. said, "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."

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