padded bikini for 7-year-olds pulled off shelves

[Simon Bar Sinister]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36502355

part of me wants to laugh, part of me wants to hunt down whoever thought marketing this was a good idea.

[taysteewonderbunny]

Well, thank goodness. Really? Padding to make a boy's member look bigger at that age? Shame on Speedo. j/k

[KatRN05]

This is as bad as the idiot who thought it was cute for babies to wear high heels. Really, these are not even cute.

[creatureofthenyte]

Any parent that would get something like that for their kid, is NOT fit to be a parent.

[Destroit]

I'm avidly against this...but as much as I am against this, I've always been the notion of making any pre-pubescent girls who shouldn't be sexually available wear dresses. Sunday dresses, school uniform dresses, etc, enforces the SAME stereotype: We're different from boys and obviously available! Girls that age do not have hips and figures to accentuate a dress and when they DO develop those attributes, she's trying to call attention to it to signal she's sexual. I recognized this from agggge...seven? About then.

I'm avidly against this...but as much as I am against this, I've always been the notion of making any pre-pubescent girls who shouldn't be sexually available wear dresses. Sunday dresses, school uniform dresses, etc, enforces the SAME stereotype: We're different from boys and obviously available! Girls that age do not have hips and figures to accentuate a dress and when they DO develop those attributes, she's trying to call attention to it to signal she's sexual. I recognized this from agggge...seven? About then.

[StormKnight (1)]

A daughter that young in that? Oh, HELL no!

WTF were they thinking?!

[Oh_My_Goth]

I'm glad to have a son...

[Msterbeau]

I'm avidly against this...but as much as I am against this, I've always been the notion of making any pre-pubescent girls who shouldn't be sexually available wear dresses. Sunday dresses, school uniform dresses, etc, enforces the SAME stereotype: We're different from boys and obviously available! Girls that age do not have hips and figures to accentuate a dress and when they DO develop those attributes, she's trying to call attention to it to signal she's sexual. I recognized this from agggge...seven? About then.

Are you serious? Why not make boys wear dresses then if you don't want difference? Newsflash: Women ARE different. Look between your legs. What you do or how you act or what you wear shouldn't be a matter of gender... but you are indeed different. If you don't want to be a feminine woman, fine. That's your thing. But don't think your sense of how things should be is how it should be for everyone. A little girl wearing a dress has nothing to do with sexuality. It does have to do with gender, which is not the same.

[Msterbeau]

And yeah... This is pretty fucking stupid. People in marketing need to be slapped. Same for any parent that thinks this is a good idea.

[TitsMcGee]

Frankly I don't think they should be making bikinis for little girls at all.

[Msterbeau]

Frankly I don't think they should be making bikinis for little girls at all.

Honestly... I could care less if kids ran around naked. It's the idea that they need to enhance or change what they have because it's not good enough. That's not a message we should give adults, much less children.

[Tyger]

I'm glad to have a son...

agree.

[Destroit]

If you don't want to be a feminine woman, fine.

Exactly the point of my original post, thank you for your approval . You FORCE a little girl into a dress then you're FORCING them to recognize the femininity that they may not want to recognize or give a shit about that point. When I was a seven year old girl I thought it was bullshit when I was FORCED to wear a dress. I couldn't run around outside and play with boys because if my skirt flew up that would be "inappropriate" and girls don't play messy stuff when they've got on the pretty clothes that they're SUPPOSED to wear! *add a thick dollop of sarcasm to the last part of that sentence*

Agreeing is fun! :

Exactly the point of my original post, thank you for your approval . You FORCE a little girl into a dress then you're FORCING them to recognize the femininity that they may not want to recognize or give a shit about that point. When I was a seven year old girl I thought it was bullshit when I was FORCED to wear a dress. I couldn't run around outside and play with boys because if my skirt flew up that would be "inappropriate" and girls don't play messy stuff when they've got on the pretty clothes that they're SUPPOSED to wear! *add a thick dollop of sarcasm to the last part of that sentence*

Agreeing is fun! :

Edited April 16, 2010 by Chernobyl

[Destroit]

Are you serious? Why not make boys wear dresses then if you don't want difference? Newsflash: Women ARE different. Look between your legs. What you do or how you act or what you wear shouldn't be a matter of gender... but you are indeed different. If you don't want to be a feminine woman, fine. That's your thing. But don't think your sense of how things should be is how it should be for everyone. A little girl wearing a dress has nothing to do with sexuality. It does have to do with gender, which is not the same.

And yes, I will agree females are different than males physiologically. I don't understand why having a physiological body HAS to impress on your mindset. I also don't understand why society forces these blanketed ideals on everyone. What baffles me further is ignorant people that cannot think outside of these norms to realize what harm they're doing to the genders by forcing people to follow this. I do mean both genders equally.

I don't think ANY children should be wearing a garment that is meant to accentuate their feminine womanly (WOMAN = fully grown, SEXUALLY MATURE female) body and provide "easy access" to her private area to insuate she is ready for sex. That is WHAT dresses are. THAT is what they symbolize.

And yes, I will agree females are different than males physiologically. I don't understand why having a physiological body HAS to impress on your mindset. I also don't understand why society forces these blanketed ideals on everyone. What baffles me further is ignorant people that cannot think outside of these norms to realize what harm they're doing to the genders by forcing people to follow this. I do mean both genders equally.

I don't think ANY children should be wearing a garment that is meant to accentuate their feminine womanly (WOMAN = fully grown, SEXUALLY MATURE female) body and provide "easy access" to her private area to insuate she is ready for sex. That is WHAT dresses are. THAT is what they symbolize.

Edited April 16, 2010 by Chernobyl

[Destroit]

I'm glad to have a son...

I wish I could live in a world where people could get over their chauvenistic ideals and people could be glad to have either a daughter or a son. That's why I don't want kids; there is a 50/50 chance they will be female and society will spend all of its time instilling to her what she HAS to be and what she CAN'T do while they teach boys what they CAN do and tell them to be who they want.

There's other reasons I don't want children, but the fear of accidentally having a daughter who hates living in a world that judges her on the shape of her body rather than the content of her character (like I and almost all other women in history have been raised to this point) has always ranked high in the list of reasons.

Do NOT think I'm attacking you for being glad you had a son, that is not my intent. My intent is to prove how fucked up society is when it comes to gender identity and sexualization that MANY parents are forced to think the same way.

I wish I could live in a world where people could get over their chauvenistic ideals and people could be glad to have either a daughter or a son. That's why I don't want kids; there is a 50/50 chance they will be female and society will spend all of its time instilling to her what she HAS to be and what she CAN'T do while they teach boys what they CAN do and tell them to be who they want.

There's other reasons I don't want children, but the fear of accidentally having a daughter who hates living in a world that judges her on the shape of her body rather than the content of her character (like I and almost all other women in history have been raised to this point) has always ranked high in the list of reasons.

Do NOT think I'm attacking you for being glad you had a son, that is not my intent. My intent is to prove how fucked up society is when it comes to gender identity and sexualization that MANY parents are forced to think the same way.

Edited April 16, 2010 by Chernobyl

[Destroit]

And before this comes up, as I know someone will most likely do, yes I wear dresses, make-up, and high heels. I'm also a 24 year old sexually ready female...you gotta tell guys somehow, right?

As a grown woman I know that if I'm looking to get laid there are certain physical attributes that will set men off. All through high school I was 100% androgynous, downright masculine, in how I dressed...until I realized that wasn't doing a good job of gettin' me dick, to be blunt. I had to change accordingly if I wanted to meet my goals .

Little girls...? They have no business dealing with any of that stuff. Let little kids be little kids.

I'm also a grown adult and it's my choice now. Most little girls wearing dresses would rather be wearing pants and playing in the mud like a normal kid. By putting a dress on them you're letting them know that they're not supposed to. I'm sick of a society that instills false ideals on little girls of "what not to do" that has no logic to back it up.

And before this comes up, as I know someone will most likely do, yes I wear dresses, make-up, and high heels. I'm also a 24 year old sexually ready female...you gotta tell guys somehow, right?

As a grown woman I know that if I'm looking to get laid there are certain physical attributes that will set men off. All through high school I was 100% androgynous, downright masculine, in how I dressed...until I realized that wasn't doing a good job of gettin' me dick, to be blunt. I had to change accordingly if I wanted to meet my goals .

Little girls...? They have no business dealing with any of that stuff. Let little kids be little kids.

I'm also a grown adult and it's my choice now. Most little girls wearing dresses would rather be wearing pants and playing in the mud like a normal kid. By putting a dress on them you're letting them know that they're not supposed to. I'm sick of a society that instills false ideals on little girls of "what not to do" that has no logic to back it up.

[Iris]

I wish I could live in a world where people could get over their chauvenistic ideals and people could be glad to have either a daughter or a son. That's why I don't want kids; there is a 50/50 chance they will be female and society will spend all of its time instilling to her what she HAS to be and what she CAN'T do while they teach boys what they CAN do and tell them to be who they want.

I find your math disheartening, Cher...the medical community now recognizes 5 distinct sexes (of course, I am a firm believer that there are far many more than that).

[Guest Megalicious]

I'm glad to have a son...

As I am glad to have 2 sons.

Eww.. just ewww.. *shivers*

[freydis]

I blame Bratz dolls.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I find your math disheartening, Cher...the medical community now recognizes 5 distinct sexes (of course, I am a firm believer that there are far many more than that).

5? Can you show me some proof of that?

[Iris]

5? Can you show me some proof of that?

Hereis a quick overview...I first read about it in an academic text a few years back.

The article does not name all the sexes...thankfully I have a good memory. The five "Recognized" sexes are:

~Male

~Female

~Herm

~Merm

~Ferm

and of course, this does not take into account the innumerable variations of endocrine function, as the above merely deal with the biological gonads.

Edited April 16, 2010 by Iris

[Msterbeau]

Hereis a quick overview...I first read about it in an academic text a few years back.

The article does not name all the sexes...thankfully I have a good memory. The five "Recognized" sexes are:

~Male

~Female

~Herm

~Merm

~Ferm

and of course, this does not take into account the innumerable variations of endocrine function, as the above merely deal with the biological gonads.

Fascinating.

[Rev.Reverence]

Hereis a quick overview...I first read about it in an academic text a few years back.

The article does not name all the sexes...thankfully I have a good memory. The five "Recognized" sexes are:

~Male

~Female

~Herm

~Merm

~Ferm

and of course, this does not take into account the innumerable variations of endocrine function, as the above merely deal with the biological gonads.

Then...there's the Indra peoples, whom have believed & accepted the Third Sex, for thousands of years...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

ummm, she wrote a paper about this subject.. it's not accepted science... to qoute her... "I had intended to be provocative, but I had also written with tongue firmly in cheek,"

[Destroit]

I find your math disheartening, Cher...the medical community now recognizes 5 distinct sexes (of course, I am a firm believer that there are far many more than that).

Fair enough, point taken . I was trying to keep it more simple, but this also adds to my point now that you bring it up. Point is that gender identity, sexuality, and sexualization of genders are NEVER cut-and-dry or black-and-white. There are several variations, not even just physically, but mentally (as with transgendered/trans-sexual people feeling as though they were born into the wrong gender such as myself) and this supports the fact that as adults we should have no business forcing OUR gender ideals on innocent children. Let them be kids and as they grow into adults, let them become what they become. Physically, gender-wise, hermaphrodites and free-martins have long been "shunned" as being freaks (I'm not citing from an actual source, but this has been my observation). As time goes on and more understanding develops among society regarding people who were born physically as a "non-traditional" gender or believe in their minds that they should have been born as another gender. Thanks for pointing this out .

Fair enough, point taken . I was trying to keep it more simple, but this also adds to my point now that you bring it up. Point is that gender identity, sexuality, and sexualization of genders are NEVER cut-and-dry or black-and-white. There are several variations, not even just physically, but mentally (as with transgendered/trans-sexual people feeling as though they were born into the wrong gender such as myself) and this supports the fact that as adults we should have no business forcing OUR gender ideals on innocent children. Let them be kids and as they grow into adults, let them become what they become. Physically, gender-wise, hermaphrodites and free-martins have long been "shunned" as being freaks (I'm not citing from an actual source, but this has been my observation). As time goes on and more understanding develops among society regarding people who were born physically as a "non-traditional" gender or believe in their minds that they should have been born as another gender. Thanks for pointing this out .