Simon Bar Sinister Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 in NYC this summer: http://www.wibw.com/nationalnews/headlines/96888829.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteLines Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 OUTRAGEOUS, DAMN THEM GREEDHEADS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellion Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Look at this to happen to everything else as well,esp food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Doesn't particularly bother me honestly, though all you smokers have my sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrIL Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 This doesnt concern me. But, this is going to make things a bit more difficult for you smokers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eevee Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Damn! That suuuuuucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Soon it will cost just as much to keep smoking, as it does to pay for the medical bills from the problems caused by smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh_My_Goth Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 It's funny as hell that the taxes go to support health care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 It's funny as hell that the taxes go to support health care... It is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormKnight (1) Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) Maybe they can think of the extra tax as sacking it away for the future, or defraying costs for the rest of us. Consider: Average costs: -Lung cancer treatment per patient: $120,000+ (including surgery, radiation, follow-ups and palliative care (most lung cancers are found late)) (source, J Lung Cancer, November 2005) ((426,000 current cases+222,000 new cases a year)-150,000 deaths a year.) Adds up for a cancer that only 1 in 5 patients will be alive at 5 years, neh? -Emphysema and COPD treatment per patient: $1500 a year starting (source, Resp Medicine, 2000) ((14.2 Million current cases+2million new cases)-400,000 deaths a year.)) Average spontaneous rate of lung cancer in non-smokers over a lifetime: 1.3-1.7% (10-15% of cancer patients never smoked) Average rate of lung cancer in smokers over a lifetime (the majority of lung cancer patients): 17.2% for males, 11.6% for females (source for both, Can J of Public Health, November 1994.) Even if you stop smoking, it never goes all the way back to the spontaneous rate. But at least it is out of the double digit percentages. Most cost effective way to fight this is prevention. And for those concerned about taxes/government; A lot of this was picked up by medicaid/medicare in addition to private health insurance. (source, J Thoracic Cardiovascular Surg, 1996) And of course, there is issue of big corporations of the tobacco companies that are intruding into your life for the habit. Just a few bits to roll around your head. Edited June 23, 2010 by StormKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulrev Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 This should concern all of us. Haven't any of you noticed, ever since tobacco regulation was handed over to the FDA, prices on tobacco have skyrocketed? I say it should concern all of us, because, as Hellion said, it's not going to stop at tobacco. With this new healthcare plan I will bet my left testicle that they will (soon) start taxing foods that the FDA has deemed "bad for you" and those people who eat those food will "cost more to provide healthcare" because "they eat oreos". Nah. Fuck it, let's all just be ignorant and let the government control every living aspect of our lives JUST A LITTLE BIT at a time and say "Oh, well.. That doesn't concern me" until the day you wake up and find out something has happened that DOES concern you. And you wonder why. Because you ALLOWED it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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