Rev.Reverence Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 I simply think the whole project is a vulgar display of one big political attention whoring circle jerk if you ask me... The mosque isn't even directly on ground zero, it's getting built a bit away, almost as far as the other mosque already built.. it's getting alot more hype and attention than it honestly needs. Just a fucking dog and pony show to give the public something to yay or nay at instead of asking real questions. EXACTLY...now, what is going on that we SHOULD be paying attention to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Okay...I'll go look him up...who's building this "Terror-Based-House-Of-G*D"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Okay...I'll go look him up...who's building this "Terror-Based-House-Of-G*D"? I think its the Mystical Martyrs of Jihad Brigade or something.... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 http://vodpod.com/watch/4246079-keith-olbermann-special-comment-there-is-no-ground-zero-mosque-081610 OOOOOOOOOSNAP! Keith breaks it off for ya'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 http://vodpod.com/wa...o-mosque-081610 OOOOOOOOOSNAP! Keith breaks it off for ya'... Good video sir.... brilliant. I think that sums it up about as well as I could have possibly imagined.... ---- I wonder what the response from those who are frightened and opposed to it will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Glenn Beck has a response here: http://vodpod.com/watch/4249451-glenn-beck-on-keith-olbermanns-special-comment-about-ground-zero-mosque Notice how he does not refute anything that Keith says, just mocks him and brags about the size of his own audience. Keith put a very thoughtful and knowledgeable foot forward.... and Glen Beck even started making fun of Keith Olbermann's MOTHER??? *sarcasm start* Way to respond to class and intelligence there Glen.... So glad you didn't respond with ignorance and mean spirited comments that did nothing but Mock and insult people *sarcasm over* Any shred of a hope that I had that Glen Beck would say something intelligent some day is now as far gone as Jenna Jameson's virginity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 "Many Muslims fear that the mosque will become a shrine for Islamists, which would remind Americans of what Muslims did on 9/11," Gamal Abd Al-Gawad, director of Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 "Many Muslims fear that the mosque will become a shrine for Islamists, which would remind Americans of what Muslims did on 9/11," Gamal Abd Al-Gawad, director of Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 http://vodpod.com/watch/4246079-keith-olbermann-special-comment-there-is-no-ground-zero-mosque-081610 OOOOOOOOOSNAP! Keith breaks it off for ya'... Awesome video, thanx for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) Your point? I don't know about his point but I can kinda see one in there. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." That is what I see in there. Maybe it is well intentioned but shit it will probably be just one more thing where the few turn the tide and make it a problem. I mean, if we are going to judge Christians and others by those standards why should those under Islam be any different? That video that was posted had some good points too. However, the part where he talked about people developing enmity towards a certain religious group...well...what the fuck is new with that? Seriously, pick a religion and then take a look at the piles of shit that has been thrown at the one you just picked. It was a great video that spread a healthy helping of shame but damn...don't hold me to standards that others do not have to follow. If they don't want elements of my religion around or someone else's religion around why can't I feel the same way. Add a tragic accident connected to the religion in question and you have even more reason to be opposed to it. Just saying...he talks about this being one more step. Someone has to tell that asshole that we have already taken too many steps for this to be a surprise. So its not a Mosque...its has association to something that irks people so hell yes there is going to be some talk. The Muslims can go cry me a river...hell they can cry everyone else a damn river too. What? They are the only people to be persecuted? They are the only people that have an opposing force trying to purge elements of their society and religion out of someplace? Fuck this shit is getting annoying. And if anyone cares I serve next to a bearded Muslim in my platoon and he thinks people are overreacting the the reactions... Edit to add: A little more to the rant here but more power to them if they want to build something. I don't care what they are building but as long as it has a religious element as a part of it expect some static hooah? Grow a pair of balls, drink water and drive on. Edited August 21, 2010 by candyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) You missed the point...it's over there... (edit to add) Edited August 22, 2010 by Rev.Reverence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bar Sinister Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 here's a Manhattan perspective: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/08/dear_rest-of-am.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 here's a Manhattan perspective: http://blogs.village..._rest-of-am.php I thank you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 here's a Manhattan perspective: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/08/dear_rest-of-am.php That...was the greatest article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoTek Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 it's not a mosque and it's not ground zero. how about we talk about health care for the first responders instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 it's not a mosque and it's not ground zero. how about we talk about ABSOLUTELY FREE health care for the first responders instead? Fixed :clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_masey Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 If you believe that muslims have no right to build a mosque because it may offend victims... you must follow the course of your own logic and blow up Mount Rushmore for its insult to Native Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_masey Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I don't agree with it either even if this country has freedom of religion. Wouldn't be too hard for a terrorist to make the mosque look like a haven either if he came out of it with a nuke mounted on a blast jacket and it was a short trip to the center of New York or even the new building going up at the Trade Center. How easy would that be with such a short trip. Why can't they build it somewhere else? We are so sensitive to their religion and their ways when we are over there. Why can't they be when they are over here? If terrorists are bound and determined to do damage to our country, I don't think "not having a mosque nearby" is going to deter them too much. They could discuss things openly at a Denny's for all it matters, they could build a bomb in a penthouse apartment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic_Fail_Guy Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 It's just fear mongering from the ignorant... and like jesus camp, they herd the large number of sheeple, which unfortunately, is a large enough number to cause a rukus and distraction where, like my car, the jobs I want to do to improve it's quality have to be set aside for the basic mechanical needs that just seem to conveniently break down right around pay day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Tszura~ Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 http://vodpod.com/watch/4246079-keith-olbermann-special-comment-there-is-no-ground-zero-mosque-081610 OOOOOOOOOSNAP! Keith breaks it off for ya'... Wow! Thanks Rev! This video pretty much sums it up for me, too. Chernobyl brought up a great topic regarding terrorism in another thread which I now carry to this one. My concern is that the cultural center will be plagued with trouble from those of the opposition who are willing to turn it into a physical battle. I would be surprised if the Center hasn't received any death threats, and I know there have been groups picketing. All of this is par for the course, but what happens if it goes farther? What happens if violence at the Center occurs, or if some radical tries to bomb it? Do we all just say, "well you should have known? You shouldn't have build your center there?" Would that not mean we were supporting terror tactics? Would the painful irony of the situation be lost, or would we all get it? Changing the world means facing situations like this with an open mind, and an open heart. I, for one, don't want to be ruled by fear, ignorance, or hate. I understand some points of the opposition, such as distance, but its all about letting go of the hatred and fear to get to a place of healing. Healing is not going to happen by turning ones back, and carrying around anger. If the center is not built there, then where? Far enough away where people won't know about it, or won't even go to? Part of me understands the distance argument, but then the other part says its being built right where it needs to be. Its close enough where people who visit ground zero can visit the cultural center, too, to get a better understanding of the Muslim community, instead of being afraid all of the time. http://www.cordobainitiative.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slogo Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I just read that there will be a victim's memorial in there. Which is better than the current one: A 9 year old hole in the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I just read that there will be a victim's memorial in there. Which is better than the current one: A 9 year old hole in the ground I don't get all the fear mongering.... all the talk that it would honor the terrorists is total BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Wow! Thanks Rev! This video pretty much sums it up for me, too. Chernobyl brought up a great topic regarding terrorism in another thread which I now carry to this one. My concern is that the cultural center will be plagued with trouble from those of the opposition who are willing to turn it into a physical battle. I would be surprised if the Center hasn't received any death threats, and I know there have been groups picketing. All of this is par for the course, but what happens if it goes farther? What happens if violence at the Center occurs, or if some radical tries to bomb it? Do we all just say, "well you should have known? You shouldn't have build your center there?" Would that not mean we were supporting terror tactics? Would the painful irony of the situation be lost, or would we all get it? Changing the world means facing situations like this with an open mind, and an open heart. I, for one, don't want to be ruled by fear, ignorance, or hate. I understand some points of the opposition, such as distance, but its all about letting go of the hatred and fear to get to a place of healing. Healing is not going to happen by turning ones back, and carrying around anger. If the center is not built there, then where? Far enough away where people won't know about it, or won't even go to? Part of me understands the distance argument, but then the other part says its being built right where it needs to be. Its close enough where people who visit ground zero can visit the cultural center, too, to get a better understanding of the Muslim community, instead of being afraid all of the time. http://www.cordobainitiative.org/ OH...you did not know?...many do NOT WANT to heal...they LOVE the pain, & thrive on the strife... ..they would have nothing to bitch about, if they let this here heal, see, if THIS, can heal, NOTHING ELSE is safe to 'not heal'... FESTERING-WOUNDS...that's what the emo-americans want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 OH...you did not know?...many do NOT WANT to heal...they LOVE the pain, & thrive on the strife... ..they would have nothing to bitch about, if they let this here heal, see, if THIS, can heal, NOTHING ELSE is safe to 'not heal'... FESTERING-WOUNDS...that's what the emo-americans want... Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now