Lillylu29 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 1 Not everyone on foodstamps is Jobless.. Also I believe in michigan you only have to go to workfirst if your collecting cash assistance. 2 There used to be a program when I was younger for low income familys. You had to be between the ages of 13 and 18, but during the summer you went to work. I worked in the elementry school in ecorse doing janatorial work for 8 dollars an hour 36 hrs a week. It gave me the freedom to buy my own school clothes which I walked the 3 mils or so to the kmart put them in layway paid on them till it was time to take them out 10 weeks later the walked the 3 miles home with my huge bags of awesomeness 3 When I lived in Florida they had a workfirst program but with theres people had to go to work at places till they found a job. I had to volenteer at a adult daycare for mentally challenged adults. Didnt have a car so they gave me bus passes. they also paid for me to get a CNA certification to get better job. Maybe michigan should take some note on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat (1) Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I think that years ago you could opt out of workfirst if you did not want cash but I think now you get sanctioned even on your foodstamps for not going, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 It's easy to talk about regulating food stamps and shit like this for most of you, until you have to get them yourself. Then, I'm sure, tones will change. Nope, I had a Bridge Card for three years when Pestilence and I were struggling to keep our shitty condo roof over our heads. I still believe it should be heavily regulated. If you are stealing free money, you should have NO rights to what that money is spent on. You don't like it? Don't take it. Nope, I had a Bridge Card for three years when Pestilence and I were struggling to keep our shitty condo roof over our heads. I still believe it should be heavily regulated. If you are stealing free money, you should have NO rights to what that money is spent on. You don't like it? Don't take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) In a world where simply work = $ that would make sense... but of course, companies go belly up with no fault at all to the employee... and puts families in a situation where it is needed. Responsiblity means saving enough money ahead of time to get yourself through six months financially. Alsooo...I said "cash assistance". What you're talking about is unemployement, which I'm not against (if you were working in the first place, clearly you're just struggling, not a mooch), especially because as much as the six month thing is nice, many people don't have the self-control to follow through with it and their children shouldn't have to suffer while that person looks for new employment. Cash assistance, basically, means I was irresponsible, got knocked up not having a job to begin with, birthed a kid not knowing what I was going to do to take care of it, and then holding my palm out to the rest of society to take care of the child I perhaps should have planned much better. So as to make sure however that the money is spent on things that are absolutely one-hundred-percent necessity, both unemployment and cash assistance should be regulated by the government, imo. They should pay your rent (directly, instead of handing you cold hard cash), utilities, food and other absolute necessities. This would cut down on people taking cash assistance or unemployement and blowing it on wants instead of needs. Responsiblity means saving enough money ahead of time to get yourself through six months financially. Alsooo...I said "cash assistance". What you're talking about is unemployement, which I'm not against (if you were working in the first place, clearly you're just struggling, not a mooch), especially because as much as the six month thing is nice, many people don't have the self-control to follow through with it and their children shouldn't have to suffer while that person looks for new employment. Cash assistance, basically, means I was irresponsible, got knocked up not having a job to begin with, birthed a kid not knowing what I was going to do to take care of it, and then holding my palm out to the rest of society to take care of the child I perhaps should have planned much better. So as to make sure however that the money is spent on things that are absolutely one-hundred-percent necessity, both unemployment and cash assistance should be regulated by the government, imo. They should pay your rent (directly, instead of handing you cold hard cash), utilities, food and other absolute necessities. This would cut down on people taking cash assistance or unemployement and blowing it on wants instead of needs. Edited October 21, 2010 by Chernobyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroit Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Has anyone really seen some of the shit that is WIC-approved? I went to Kroger the other day and was walking down the cereal aisle and the WIC-approved cereal was the sugary, unhealthy crap. At the end of the day, banning pop from being bought is not the only solution to the problem if the government wants to fight obesity. There is a lot of stigma surrounding getting assistance. I'm not against people getting assistance for a certain amount of time. I'm against the people who abuse the system which there is a lot of. I'd still support sugary cereal before pop due to the fact that even the sugary shit is STILL fortified with a giant amount of vitamins and minerals. That said, even though I still think it is more appropriate then pop, don't want that crap being paid for with my paycheck. I'd still support sugary cereal before pop due to the fact that even the sugary shit is STILL fortified with a giant amount of vitamins and minerals. That said, even though I still think it is more appropriate then pop, don't want that crap being paid for with my paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aequorea Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 I am fortunate enough to have avoided the need for food stamps, bridge cards, cash assistance thus far in my life. I don't really know how it works, so please feel free to correct/educate... If you are working and have a bridge card, wouldn't you have some cash in addition to the bridge card? Could you use that for the wants and the bridge card for the needs? IMO if the government is giving you money they have the right to regulate it. It is a handout, yes? The intent is to make sure that people who are struggling financially can still feed themselves and their families. It sounds like the system is flawed - it doesn't cover hygiene items and still allows for junk food and abuses - but I don't have anything better to suggest :shrug: It would be interesting to have a basic nutrition/cooking class as an addition to bridge card program. Some people really do not know how to cook or what constitutes a balanced diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat (1) Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 It's easy to talk about regulating food stamps and shit like this for most of you, until you have to get them yourself. Then, I'm sure, tones will change. I have recently been in need and have as a result applied for food stamps. My stance does not change on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darknight1 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 This whole idea that New York State has with banning the purchase of soda using food stamps I think is just rather stupid. Doing it in the name of fighting obesity? Please. Obesity has existed practically since the dawn of civilization. If people want to eat things that have an adverse effect on their health, so be it. It's not up to anyone to try and influence how a person chooses to eat, much less live their life, unless of course those choices involve something of a truly criminal nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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