"Bipartisan" is a Bad Word

[n0Mad]

I think the two party system is tearing America apart and fueling a whole lot of arguments. You read the newspapers, watch the news, chat around the water cooler, etc. and what are you lead to believe? That the race for Michigan Governor was between Bernero and Snyder. But then you get to the polls and find five other names on the ballot. Who are these people? What are these other parties they belong to? Why didn't they get any press time?

The past several years have been, "We're pissed off with the way the Republicans handled things so I'm voting Democrat." Whether you believe in the Dems or not doesn't matter, you're just voting against the Republicans. Then it's "We're pissed off with the way the Democrats handled things so I'm voting Republican." Whether you believe in the GOP or not doesn't matter, you're just voting against the Dems. Well stop voting against what you don't like and start voting for what you do like.

In the election yesterday, I voted for a couple of Democrats, I voted for a couple of Republicans, I voted for a couple of Libertarians ... my votes were all over the place. Why? Because I don't buy into this party bullshit. I look at each candidate and how they feel about the issues and I vote for the one who closely aligns with me. Sometimes that means I vote mostly Conservative. Sometimes that means I vote mostly Liberal. Sometimes it means I'm all over the place like this last election. But what it does mean is that I vote, and I do so as educated as possible.

In my book, "bipartisan" is a bad word. It should be "multi-partisan" or even "nonpartisan". But to continue the whole Republicratic system is to divide the country in two and watch us tear each other apart, and that's not a country I want to live in. In Matthew 12:25, Jesus is attributed as saying, "Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand," and later in history Abraham Lincoln spoke, "A house divided against itself cannot stand". While Lincoln was referring to the Union vs. Confederacy, North vs. South, slave vs. freemen, this country is divided again today into Republicans and Democrats and we are fighting another Civil War; not with guns and swords, but politics and rhetoric, and I think the latter is more dangerous.

It is time to eschew our political affiliations and stand together, as Americans!

[prick]

Well said Spook and I agree 100%.

[KatRN05]

[the eternal]

That was a great post!

Unfortunately, unless there is either public financing of elections or a severe limit on campaign spending with FULL disclosure of where the campaign money comes from, it'll never change.

How can a green or libertarian with $10k compete with a Club For Growth-backed candidate with $10 million?

We need to make elections about ideas, not money raised.

Or in the words of the immortal Tommy Wiseau (substitute the word political system for "Lisa")

[KatRN05]

Every time a politician disagrees with another during a meeting of the Senate or House, they should play this. Not that it would be effective, but it sure as hell would be damn funny:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hF_-5pZ_kxY

Edited November 4, 2010 by KatRN05

[creatureofthenyte]

That was a great post!

Unfortunately, unless there is either public financing of elections or a severe limit on campaign spending with FULL disclosure of where the campaign money comes from, it'll never change.

How can a green or libertarian with $10k compete with a Club For Growth-backed candidate with $10 million?

We need to make elections about ideas, not money raised.

Or in the words of the immortal Tommy Wiseau (substitute the word political system for "Lisa")

I agree with Eternal on this(yes you read right, do not adjust your computer monitor).

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

That was a great post!

Unfortunately, unless there is either public financing of elections or a severe limit on campaign spending with FULL disclosure of where the campaign money comes from, it'll never change.

How can a green or libertarian with $10k compete with a Club For Growth-backed candidate with $10 million?

We need to make elections about ideas, not money raised.

Or in the words of the immortal Tommy Wiseau (substitute the word political system for "Lisa")

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Plz-bhcHryc

I have to agree too. I'd like to see full disclosure if nothing else. As much as Democrats tried to make a big deal about full disclosure in thise last election cycle I don't see them allowing full disclosure to pass though. Let me rephrase that.. I don't think Soros and the Unions would let it happen.

[taysteewonderbunny]

Wow! We all agree! See why I love him? He is so sweet and good and full of good sense, spook is, but with an "I'm a bad boy, well, not really, but I dress the part" demeanor. WTG, hubby!

[n0Mad]

I'm a Slurpee. I bring people together.

[TheGimp]

i disagree.....just to be different

nah....but Spook makes good points.......Spook for Governor? i think yes

[the eternal]

I can't believe Gaf and COTN agree with me.

See this is one of those issues where the rank and file don't have the same view as the leadership.

When the Suupreme Court gutted McCain Feingold allowing anonymous money to flow through to campaigns, it was something like 80% of the public was against, but the GOP leadership was for it.

As for the unions, if they don't want to tell their members that their money is going to Obama, fuck em.

The point of a union is to represent and support their workers, and when you don't represent the interest of your workers, you don't deserve to represent them.

[creatureofthenyte]

I can't believe Gaf and COTN agree with me.

See this is one of those issues where the rank and file don't have the same view as the leadership.

When the Suupreme Court gutted McCain Feingold allowing anonymous money to flow through to campaigns, it was something like 80% of the public was against, but the GOP leadership was for it.

As for the unions, if they don't want to tell their members that their money is going to Obama, fuck em.

The point of a union is to represent and support their workers, and when you don't represent the interest of your workers, you don't deserve to represent them.

The reason why I decided to register as an Independent voter, is largely similar to what Spook said.

A Republican might have views that I like on one issue, and a Democrat might have views that I like on some other issue.

The only thing that sucks is that I can't vote in Primary elections.

[n0Mad]

The only thing that sucks is that I can't vote in Primary elections.

Which is why I think the whole election process needs a massive overhaul, but that's a subject for another thread entirely.

[Slogo]

pssst.....monarchy under slogo.....yeah

[n0Mad]

pssst.....monarchy under slogo.....yeah

Only if I can nom your balls.