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Wow, so many things indeed.

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. – Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley told a church crowd just moments into his new administration that those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior are not his brothers and sisters, shocking some critics who questioned Tuesday whether he can be fair to non-Christians.

"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News.

So I guess he wants to convert everyone to HIS FAITH OF CHOICE now that he's been elected? :dry:

Read story here.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I've been taught that our government is founded on the belief that there IS a separation between church and state. We have it that way for a reason.

Also, what happened to freedom of religion? Is it only freedom of religion, when you convert to Christianity?

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Wow, so many things indeed.

So I guess he wants to convert everyone to HIS FAITH OF CHOICE now that he's been elected? :dry:

Read story here.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I've been taught that our government is founded on the belief that there IS a separation between church and state. We have it that way for a reason.

Also, what happened to freedom of religion? Is it only freedom of religion, when you convert to Christianity?

*siiiigh* fucking...some southern people really fuck it up for the rest of the people from that area.

*siiiigh* fucking...some southern people really fuck it up for the rest of the people from that area.
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Meh, they elected him. He sucks... but they chose him ... so... *shrugs* As long as he is NOT governing MY state... we are good.

It is my view that most Christian people think this way. I don't know how many times I have had one try and "save" me - hence why, for the most part, me and christians don't mix... *nods*

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Well at least not much will probably come of it...unless he has a holy band of young men that will go around imposing the will of their savior on poor villages that lie below their hills...

Seriously...even though this totally sucks, I know...look at all the other countries where politics and religion have mixed...YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DIE! Here we have the option to use the ignore button in our brains and NOT have a death squad snatch us up, hook us to a car battery, and then dump us in shallow graves...nor will their leader uses large chemical weapons on us for not being of the same religion and not giving up the few oil fields we own. Our neighboring village will not send a bunch of dudes wearing nothing but undies and an AK47 to slaughter our whole village. You are not being sent to any sort of reform camp nor do you have to wear a large symbol telling people what you believe or don't believe...

Damn...these kinds of people need attention to do what they do best...and you are giving them EXACTLY the right kind of attention for them to smile. Every religion or non-religion has their asshole both public and not and both types are vocal...judging them based on the assholes is really stupid and thinking along those lines really almost justifies racism, sexism, and all the other isms....

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Can I just say while I no way agree with what this man said even as a Christian myself. But the Separation of Church and State is not mentioned in the Constitution at all, it's in the Federalist papers, which really have no standing in the how the government is run. It's a comment mistake that it's in the Constitution.

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The phrase "separation of church and state" is generally traced to a 1 January 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury, Connecticut, Baptist Association, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper. Echoing the language of the founder of the first Baptist church in America, Roger Williams—who had written in 1644 of "[A] hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world, God hath ever broke down the wall itself, removed the candlestick, and made his garden a wilderness."—, Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State".[1]

Jefferson's metaphor of a wall of separation has been cited repeatedly by the U.S. Supreme Court. In its 1879 Reynolds v. United States decision, the court allowed that Jefferson's comments "may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the [First] Amendment." In the 1947 Everson v. Board of Education decision, Justice Hugo Black wrote, "In the words of Thomas Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect a wall of separation between church and state."

Even though the actual words may not be there, the wording in which the statement "separation of church and state" (by Thomas Jefferson) has been the accepted interpretation for over 200 years.

The supreme court has agreed with this many, many times.

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Wow, so many things indeed.

So I guess he wants to convert everyone to HIS FAITH OF CHOICE now that he's been elected? :dry:

Read story here.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I've been taught that our government is founded on the belief that there IS a separation between church and state. We have it that way for a reason.

Also, what happened to freedom of religion? Is it only freedom of religion, when you convert to Christianity?

This is rather sad. As a Christian I believe that everyone around me is to be consider my brother or sister. Not just those who believe as I do. My believe tells me that God is the father or us all, therefor everyone is my brother or sister.

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I don't really care whom he considers a brother or sister of whom he is not by blood a sibling. What I care about is whether this is a declaration that he will treat some people with prejudice and others deferentially based upon their religious beliefs. If the answer is yes, then he openly violates the U.S. Constitution which, given the First and Fourteenth Amendments together, prohibits an elected officer from making those distinctions.

If he is merely making it known that, when not serving in an official governmental capacity, he hopes to persuade people to accept his beliefs, but otherwise, especially when officiating as Governor, does NOT make distinctions between his constituents based upon religion, then he should be safe.

Even Evangelical Christians have the right to run and be elected to office.

This is just a case of "wait and see."

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