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[Glory13666]

That was awesome! I believe in a God but I hate religion. My brother and two sisters are all atheists and we all respect each other's belief. My brother can actually be pushy about his disbelief in God the way you'd expect an overly religious person to be about their belief in God. I think that is because of all of the overly religious people in the world who have tried to push religion on him. I want to start a religion where everyone just leaves other people alone and let them be themselves.

Edited May 7, 2011 by Glory13666

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That was awesome! I believe in a God but I hate religion. My brother and two sisters are all atheists and we all respect each other's belief. My brother can actually be pushy about his disbelief in God the way you'd expect an overly religious person to be about their belief in God. I think that is because of all of the overly religious people in the world who have tried to push religion on him. I want to start a religion where everyone just leaves other people alone and let them be themselves.

heh yeah... that one actually is not about people that believe in god being bad... it's about the double standards that some give themselves.

[Vater Araignee]

The last part first. You can not acknowledge the possibility of god and be a true atheist. I'm assuming it was added by a person that either doesn't know what an atheist is or refuses to give up the word for self description.

Now if you went and swapped the prime words in it, though it would sound absurd it would still hold true. I honestly don't think that the quote Typical Christian Behavior unquote isn't actually typical. It is indicative of Loud Christian Behavior and unfortunately because most atheists are prefer not to discus religion at all leaving everyone to see the outspoken atheist who is for all intent and purpose identical to the loud christian.

Just a snippet of agnostic nosticisms wisdom.

I want to start a religion where everyone just leaves other people alone and let them be themselves.

Unfortunately we still have to be pushy about others pushiness.

The most pleasant conversation I ever had about the non/existence of god was with Jesuit priest who was an an atheist. Turns out he started out believing lost his faith but continued to serve the church as if he was a believer because he had concluded that most people need god because in his words "Most of them would behave despicably without fear of the boogieman." Now that is an argument for religion that I wish I could dispute beyond saying that is what law is for.

[Shaun]

The last part first. You can not acknowledge the possibility of god and be a true atheist.

You absolutely can, I'm an atheist but who know, I could be wrong. Stranger things have happened. Anyone who isn't willing to admit they might possibly be wrong is a close minded fool in my opinion. Just saying.

Edited May 8, 2011 by Shaun

[Vater Araignee]

You absolutely can, I'm an atheist and will admit its possibility. I can't imagine anything that would ever turn me into a believer but you never know. Anyone who isn't willing to admit they might possibly be wrong is a close minded idiot imho. Just saying.

Admitting that there may or may not be a god makes one agnostic, believing that there is not a god makes one atheist. That is not so humble fact.

[Shaun]

I guess we'll have to disagree then. To me atheism is simply a lack of belief in a god. I don't consider atheism and agnosticism to be mutually exclusive. I personally believe there isn't a god for what its worth, but like I said before I could be wrong. Maybe we'll all see each other in hell someday .

[Vater Araignee]

I guess we'll have to disagree then. To me atheism is simply a lack of belief in a god. I don't consider atheism and agnosticism to be mutually exclusive. I personally believe there isn't a god for what its worth, but like I said before I could be wrong.

What you consider if contrary to fact is irrelevant in the face of the true definitions of the words.

ATHEIST

1 : one who believes that there is no deity

AGNOSTIC

1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

You can not be an atheist and claim that there might be a god. As soon as you do, you no longer have the belief that there is not one, you have become non committal. Or you are a simply despicable character who is trying to score points, just in case.

Maybe we'll all see each other in hell someday .

So we will be in heaven because my ultimate reward would be non existence and my ultimate punishment would be an immortal consciousness watching fools bask in the glory of something that doesn't give a shit about anything but documenting an experiment. Fortunately for me if there is a god it doesn't care about what you believe which actually means I'm in a win win win situation. If I'm good I get to stop existing, if I'm bad I get to stop existing and if there isn't a god I get to stop existing.

Edited May 8, 2011 by Vater Araignee

[Destroit]

Admitting that there may or may not be a god makes one agnostic, believing that there is not a god makes one atheist. That is not so humble fact.

Yeah, agreed, if you're atheist then you're basically saying there isn't anything that can change your mind on the issue and that you believe it is completely and absolutely impossible for there to be a higher power.

Yeah, agreed, if you're atheist then you're basically saying there isn't anything that can change your mind on the issue and that you believe it is completely and absolutely impossible for there to be a higher power.

[wormsinwombs]

that was great! I hate the double standard I always feel like I have to be extra nice when talking about religion or else people will just think I'm another "bad atheist" (well I am probably more of an agnostic but whatever lol) I don't know why I even care to not step on anyone's precious toes when they could care less about what I have to say and my perspective.

Edited May 8, 2011 by wormsinwombs

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well, according to monty python, one can be both an atheist, and a member of "the league of agnostics"...

[Destroit]

I avoid almost all religious conversation, except from a purely scientific/spiritual basis (i.e. energies, ghosts, apparitions, etc), or unless I'm talking about a certain way that a particular religion has shaped a culture/ethnicity/history. Easy way to avoid pushy convos!

I avoid almost all religious conversation, except from a purely scientific/spiritual basis (i.e. energies, ghosts, apparitions, etc), or unless I'm talking about a certain way that a particular religion has shaped a culture/ethnicity/history. Easy way to avoid pushy convos!

[Vater Araignee]

I avoid almost all religious conversation, except from a purely scientific/spiritual basis (i.e. energies, ghosts, apparitions, etc), or unless I'm talking about a certain way that a particular religion has shaped a culture/ethnicity/history. Easy way to avoid pushy convos!

All the paranormal gets out of me are two responses.

1. Prove it.

2. Debunking.

I fake paranormal and xenobiological activity as a hobby.

Anybody wanna join T.O.P.H.O.A.X? I'm the only person authorized to grow our ranks.

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1. Prove it.

i'm sorry, but i find this amusing, coming from a guy who comes across as a big conspiracy theorist...

[Destroit]

i'm sorry, but i find this amusing, coming from a guy who comes across as a big conspiracy theorist...

Thought the same thing. Wasn't sure if I would have been trolling or not had I posted it though . I was actually going to ask how you thought the paranormal was any different from anything else you deem a huge conspiracy (which from what I've noticed, is most everything almost down to the toilet paper in your own bathroom ).

Thought the same thing. Wasn't sure if I would have been trolling or not had I posted it though . I was actually going to ask how you thought the paranormal was any different from anything else you deem a huge conspiracy (which from what I've noticed, is most everything almost down to the toilet paper in your own bathroom ).

[Vater Araignee]

Thought the same thing. Wasn't sure if I would have been trolling or not had I posted it though . I was actually going to ask how you thought the paranormal was any different from anything else you deem a huge conspiracy (which from what I've noticed, is most everything almost down to the toilet paper in your own bathroom ).

I'm not a Conspiracy theorist at all, once you have evidence of a lie the word theory no longer applies. Also

I unlike the nutters will not argue against flawless debunking. Have you found yourself capable of debunking anything I put fourth? Like I say, just because you don't know what the lie is covering up doesn't mean the lie does not exist.

If they had simply said "Osama is dead here is his corpse.", refused to answer any questions surrounding it, then there would have been no lie for me to complain about.

Now I will admit that I do participate in speculation as to what the lie is covering up but I believe it to be obvious when I am doing so and considering that speculation is inconclusive by its very nature I am never stead fast concerning it.

Oh if we ever meet at CC then remind me and I'll use your camera to take a picture of the ghost on the stairwell. But If you want that ghost to be a red eyed shadow demon, orb, mist, goofy Halloween ghost, disembodied head or an astral projection of Phees current avatar then you will have to give me advanced warning otherwise you may only get the standard ghost message "BOOO! We don't exist.".

Threadjack over.