have we run out of original ideas?

[Simon Bar Sinister]

NBC considering new Munsters series: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Exclusive-Munsters-NBC-1036301.aspx?rss=breakingnew

[DJ Nocker]

America has, yes. Although everyone else is still making amazing new stuff.

[phee]

America has, yes. Although everyone else is still making amazing new stuff.

I find this is true....

[killyosaur]

America has, yes. Although everyone else is still making amazing new stuff.

Well I would correct that to Hollywood has. There are really good ideas out there that are not being made because the studios don't want to risk putting money into things that are not sure will make money.

Edited August 12, 2011 by killyosaur

[DJ Nocker]

Well I would correct that to Hollywood has. There are probably really good ideas out there that are not being made because the studios don't want to risk putting money into things that are not sure will make money.

Even the "non-hollywood" studios havent been putting great stuff out as of late. You know me, I love movies more than I do music...I havent purchased a movie that has came out recently since "Predators" and thats because im a sucker for the Aliens/Predator franchise. The last movie I purchased was "Hard Boiled" and that is an old action flick. Maybe ill wonder around the movie store today and see if I cant find something worth my time...

[phee]

I am trying to think of something original that has come out of Hollywood recently... the only thing that pops into mind is some of the concepts in Inception... but even that is a bit typical hollywood narrative even with the original ideas.

[DJ Nocker]

I am trying to think of something original that has come out of Hollywood recently... the only thing that pops into mind is some of the concepts in Inception... but even that is a bit typical hollywood narrative even with the original ideas.

Paranormal Activity was the last one I can think of that I really enjoyed, for long time Horror fans, this movie was fantastic. Alot of the jaded that cant put themselves in the right frame of mind hated it though. The idea of POV horror has been done before (as early as the 70's) but this was still original.

[phee]

Paranormal Activity was the last one I can think of that I really enjoyed, for long time Horror fans, this movie was fantastic. Alot of the jaded that cant put themselves in the right frame of mind hated it though. The idea of POV horror has been done before (as early as the 70's) but this was still original.

That was pretty good... never saw the sequel though.

[DJ Nocker]

That was pretty good... never saw the sequel though.

The sequel was ok until the ending which made me really mad. I will still support the series and will go see the 3rd one, because they are milking it, but in the correct way.

[phee]

This might be better in a new thread.... but just curious what people think the most original movie (hollywood or not) that they have seen recently?

[DJ Nocker]

This might be better in a new thread.... but just curious what people think the most original movie (hollywood or not) that they have seen recently?

You should make one, ill post in it as often as I can.

[killyosaur]

Even the "non-hollywood" studios havent been putting great stuff out as of late. You know me, I love movies more than I do music...I havent purchased a movie that has came out recently since "Predators" and thats because im a sucker for the Aliens/Predator franchise. The last movie I purchased was "Hard Boiled" and that is an old action flick. Maybe ill wonder around the movie store today and see if I cant find something worth my time...

Again I would have to disagree a bit there as well, recently (at least within the last couple years) there have been a number of really good films that came out that were worth seeing. If you haven't seen it, check out The Messenger (it's a drama about the soldiers who are tasked with handing out death notices to the families of service men and women who died in combat). It really comes down to what you are interested in seeing and what has come out. If you are talking about great action or great horror, then yes, I would agree that the American studios haven't put out much of interest as of late (Although the A-Team kicked ass), there are a few comedies that have come out in the US that have been worth seeing, and some, but certainly not all, of the Comic films have been pretty damn good (although I know you are not interested in movies based on Comic books).

I also like how you put non-hollywood in scare quotes as that is pretty much it, there are not a lot of studios that are technically independent and most of the supposed independent studios are owned by the bigger Hollywood studios and still use similar metrics to the bigger studios for determining whether to release a movie or not.

@Phee, And to the point on Inception, Christopher Nolan is English, can Inception really be considered an original "American" idea?

[Enishi]

I enjoyed Paranormal Activity quite a bit. It really does require a specific mindset though. It also requires people in the theater to SHUT THE FUCK UP, due to the focus on ambiance and subtle tension. Dumbasses laughing and shouting shit in the theater ruined the second one for me. >.<

[victoriavengeance (1)]

This is why I love brit-humour when it comes to television. much more dry, original, and all over awesome. I think we should kidnap some of their writers and just bam.

However there still are some good shows/ideas in the US. just gotta search. it's just not the popular stuff.

Edited August 12, 2011 by victoriavengeance

[DJ Nocker]

Again I would have to disagree a bit there as well, recently (at least within the last couple years) there have been a number of really good films that came out that were worth seeing. If you haven't seen it, check out The Messenger (it's a drama about the soldiers who are tasked with handing out death notices to the families of service men and women who died in combat). It really comes down to what you are interested in seeing and what has come out. If you are talking about great action or great horror, then yes, I would agree that the American studios haven't put out much of interest as of late (Although the A-Team kicked ass), there are a few comedies that have come out in the US that have been worth seeing, and some, but certainly not all, of the Comic films have been pretty damn good (although I know you are not interested in movies based on Comic books).

I also like how you put non-hollywood in scare quotes as that is pretty much it, there are not a lot of studios that are technically independent and most of the supposed independent studios are owned by the bigger Hollywood studios and still use similar metrics to the bigger studios for determining whether to release a movie or not.

@Phee, And to the point on Inception, Christopher Nolan is English, can Inception really be considered an original "American" idea?

Eh, I dont enjoy many comedy films, and alot of the comedies that come out these days are actually romantic comedies in disguise. You know how I feel about comicbook movies... I mostly watch horror/scifi/art/fantasy/action stuff. I do dramas from time to time but they have to have a weirdness about them. as for the "non-hollywood" thing, I consider anything that gets a wide theatrical release to be under the "hollywood" label. I may check out "The Messenger"

[killyosaur]

Eh, I dont enjoy many comedy films, and alot of the comedies that come out these days are actually romantic comedies in disguise. You know how I feel about comicbook movies... I mostly watch horror/scifi/art/fantasy/action stuff. I do dramas from time to time but they have to have a weirdness about them. as for the "non-hollywood" thing, I consider anything that gets a wide theatrical release to be under the "hollywood" label. I may check out "The Messenger"

Yeah, that is true about a lot of comedies, definitely agree there, and the stuff you stick with does make it difficult to find anything worth watching that has been made recently in the US unless it is from a director known for making interesting film, or happens to be a foreign director (like Nolan or Del Torro, the latter of which was trying to do a film based on a Lovecraft story but the studio that was backing it pulled out of the production )

Edited August 12, 2011 by killyosaur

[phee]

Yeah, that is true about a lot of comedies, definitely agree there, and the stuff you stick with does make it difficult to find anything worth watching that has been made recently in the US unless it is from a director known for making interesting film, or happens to be a foreign director (like Nolan or Del Torro, the latter of which was trying to do a film based on a Lovecraft story but the studio that was backing it pulled out of the production )

I was totally bummed when Del Toro's At The Mountains Of Madness project was stopped.

But yeah... I mean, I consider all of the Harry Potter movies "Hollywood" even though all of them were directed by brits.

[DJ Nocker]

Yeah, that is true about a lot of comedies, definitely agree there, and the stuff you stick with does make it difficult to find anything worth watching that has been made recently in the US unless it is from a director known for making interesting film, or happens to be a foreign director (like Nolan or Del Torro, the latter of which was trying to do a film based on a Lovecraft story but the studio that was backing it pulled out of the production )

I like to think my appreciation for movies is pretty vast save for the comedy/romance/comicbook selection....feel free to throw some titles at me some time.

[killyosaur]

I was totally bummed when Del Toro's At The Mountains Of Madness project was stopped.

But yeah... I mean, I consider all of the Harry Potter movies "Hollywood" even though all of them were directed by brits.

Well the third Harry Potter film was directed by Alfonso Cuarón who's Mexican, Chris Columbus, who directed the first 2 is American, and the films were all distributed by Warner Brothers, the film studio that financed the films. So they were 100% Hollywood, even though all the filming took place in England and most of the actors were British. The same is true of the Lord of the Rings films. What technically makes something non-hollywood is if it wasn't financed by a Hollywood studio, which seems to be only true of a small handful of independent American studios and any studio outside the US.

[DarkVampire]

Hollywood sucks.They need to get new writers with new ideas. Just quit with the lame remakes especially if its a classic.

[Simon Bar Sinister]

I was totally bummed when Del Toro's At The Mountains Of Madness project was stopped.

that might not be dead yet. James Cameron really wants it done with GDT's vision of it. I think Cameron's overseeing the 3D transfer of Titanic for next year's 100th anniversary (at least that's what I read somewhere), but he still considers ATMOM to be a going concern.

[phee]

that might not be dead yet. James Cameron really wants it done with GDT's vision of it. I think Cameron's overseeing the 3D transfer of Titanic for next year's 100th anniversary (at least that's what I read somewhere), but he still considers ATMOM to be a going concern.

I hope so... The only movie that came close to doing Lovecraft justice was In The Mouth Of Madness...

Del Toro I think, is the only director alive right now who could handle the project.